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Thank God the Murrysville School Attack Wasn’t Guns (That didn't take long)
The Daily Beast ^ | April 9, 2014 | Michael Daly

Posted on 04/09/2014 8:35:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Twenty-one were stabbed in a Pennsylvania school rampage Wednesday, but all are expected to live—and one even took a selfie. Think how different the toll would have been with bullets.

The dead take no selfies.

So there might well never have been the remarkable selfie that 16-year-old Nate Scimio took after his heroism at Franklin Regional High School if he had faced a gun rather than two knives on Wednesday morning.

In all, Scimio and 19 other students, along with one staff member, were stabbed when a sophomore allegedly stormed through the school in Murrysville, Pennsylvania. Three students were critically injured.

One, a girl, was saved from bleeding to death when a classmate kept paper towels pressed against her wound. Another, a 17-year-old boy, was stabbed with such savagery that the wound in his abdomen was 2 inches wide and extended almost to his spine. The blade pierced his liver and diaphragm, missing his heart and aorta by a fraction of an inch. He was on life support after emergency surgery, but doctors remained hopeful he would survive.

And, as of the end of the day, none of the 21 victims had died.....

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; knifeattack; pennsylvania

1 posted on 04/09/2014 8:35:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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and if only one teacher was armed, he could have stopped it before 21 were injured.


2 posted on 04/09/2014 8:39:13 PM PDT by willywill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Think how different it would be if some teachers had guns.


3 posted on 04/09/2014 8:39:52 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michael Daly is a blithering idiot. We’ve now got the schools we deserve. These terrorist attacks of students killing students are filling the void left when ***holes like Daly demanded that God, prayer and America be banned from our classrooms. Of course, morons like Daly haven’t figured that out yet. FUMD


4 posted on 04/09/2014 8:40:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey...what’s an ultra-lefty Daily Beast reporter doing mentioning God?

As for the article - I *could* point out that one armed teacher could have stopped the knife-wielding maniac before 21 kids were maimed. I could, but that would make me a racist homophobic meat-eating bigot in DB circles.

/only partially sarc here.


5 posted on 04/09/2014 8:44:45 PM PDT by DemforBush (The scourge of mariachis and polka bands everywhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In an enclosed area and with a person who knows what he is doing, a knife can be as deadly as a gun, maybe even more so.

Still I would rather have a pistol.


6 posted on 04/09/2014 8:53:23 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You don't have to reload a knife.

The machete is an agricultural tool owned by most Rwandan households and is believed to have been the prime instrument of killing during the genocide.

7 posted on 04/09/2014 8:56:41 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank God the punk didnt pull the fire alarm and use a Toyota Prious to run down the innocent.


8 posted on 04/09/2014 8:58:43 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

Read about Jomo Kenyatta and the mau mau uprising.


9 posted on 04/09/2014 9:01:03 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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Obama’s klan


10 posted on 04/09/2014 9:01:41 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SAN FRANCISCO—Seven people were wounded in a shooting on a San Francisco street corner, but all of them were expected to survive, police said.

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_25406753/7-shot-expected-survive-san-francisco

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Thank God they we’re not all knifed....


11 posted on 04/09/2014 9:03:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another gun free zone failure.


12 posted on 04/09/2014 9:06:37 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man shot 14 times and survives

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10666145/Man-shot-14-times-and-survives.html

He’s very lucky he wasn’t stabbed 14 times. No way he’d survive that.


13 posted on 04/09/2014 9:08:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: smokingfrog

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/338687.Something_Of_Value


14 posted on 04/09/2014 9:09:31 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: smokingfrog

A machete or panga is a brutal and effective killing tool especially against the unarmed.


15 posted on 04/09/2014 9:12:43 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It wasn’t guns so you won’t hear days or weeks of endless MSM reporting on the Murrysville School Attack.

The dems, obama, congress, will have little if anything to say about it.


16 posted on 04/09/2014 9:14:49 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: yarddog

And the armed.
I guess they are unarmed afterwards.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 9:24:56 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t believe I was sitting here with a kitchen drawer half-filled with those dangerous things! I have thrown them all out before someone gets killed!


18 posted on 04/09/2014 9:26:58 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Suspected stabber: Alex Hribal.

19 posted on 04/09/2014 9:28:21 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: mylife

You see a lot of those African victims missing hands or arms. I would bet that machetes are responsible for most of that. However if the African had a spear or gun he would kill the machete man before he got to him.


20 posted on 04/09/2014 9:29:38 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

Oh yeah.
It is about terrorism over there.

That is why they keep them disarmed.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 9:38:44 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

I think the most effective weapon in real close just might be one of those old battle aexs, especially the ones which also have a point. Do they call them a halyard?


22 posted on 04/09/2014 9:45:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

I think halyard is correct.


23 posted on 04/09/2014 9:47:52 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: yarddog

But halyards are for distance.


24 posted on 04/09/2014 9:48:36 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

I guess what I am thinking of is a double bladed axe with the top blade high enough to cut if you used the axe to poke rather than swing.

I have read that the Russian elite troops love their short shovels sharpened. That would be a vicious weapon.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 9:52:08 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog
The home blade of choice...


26 posted on 04/09/2014 9:52:49 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Common sense tells me that even if the gun grabbers were to eliminate guns, they will never eliminate the ways to kill ones fellow human being.

Given that anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that one can kill with other things besides guns, why do these politicians push their gun grabbing agenda? Is it, perhaps, part of an overall Alinsky tactic to demonize conservatives?


27 posted on 04/09/2014 9:52:59 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: yarddog

If I recall correctly, halyards are like pole axes that are meant for use on horse, but I am no expert on medieval stuff, maybe I am thinking of a pole axe.


28 posted on 04/09/2014 9:57:23 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: jonrick46

Palestinians are still using rocks, much to the lefts cheers.


29 posted on 04/09/2014 10:00:00 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey maybe the idiot who wrote this should be stabbed and see how he enjoys it..maybe just maybe if someone in the school had a gun the student wouldn’t have been able to stab 24 people


30 posted on 04/09/2014 10:03:42 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he had attacked a kindergarten class rather than a high school there would have been as many dead as there were at Sandy Hook.

Regardless, if the teachers had been armed then he wouldn’t have stabbed more than a couple of students before he would have been dropped.


31 posted on 04/09/2014 10:04:13 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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My 1st grade teacher’s ruler or principal’s heavy paddle might’ve stopped him.


32 posted on 04/09/2014 10:05:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My 1st grade teacher’s ruler or principal’s heavy paddle might’ve stopped him.

These schools are all paddle free zones these days.

Just out of curiosity, did this creep yell out Alluah Akbar during these attacks?

33 posted on 04/09/2014 10:09:19 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is a blithering idiot. Everyone here knows why.


34 posted on 04/09/2014 10:12:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: jonrick46

Those who are relieved the student didn’t have a gun need to watch “Surviving Edged Weapons” (Calibre Press, maybe on You Tube). Saw it years ago during trainings and never forgot it.


35 posted on 04/09/2014 10:14:52 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: PoloSec

What if the kid infected the knives with HIV before the attack? I wonder how the media would react.


36 posted on 04/09/2014 10:24:32 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: yarddog; mylife

The weapon is a halberd. Halyard is a nautical term.


37 posted on 04/09/2014 10:35:10 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: FoxInSocks

What is most disappointing are the number of people that couldn’t instantly tell the difference.


38 posted on 04/09/2014 11:25:44 PM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are nuts. We got a Rwandan massacre with knives and they credit disarmament.


39 posted on 04/10/2014 12:01:06 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: yarddog

He forgot that a big person with a knife never runs out of ammo nor jams.


40 posted on 04/10/2014 12:02:25 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: yarddog
I think you are referring to a halberd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halberd#Different_types_of_halberds

A better close in weapon is an old fashioned tomahawk preferably backed up by a Bowie knife or as a second choice would be a Roman Gladius. Its thrusting ability coupled with its width makes it extremely lethal.

41 posted on 04/10/2014 12:03:30 AM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: FoxInSocks

Thanks.


42 posted on 04/10/2014 5:59:22 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: Polynikes

Thank you. I knew “halyard” was not quite right but did not know the right word either.


43 posted on 04/10/2014 9:50:51 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Mjaye
In this case, the knives were in the hands of a young kid. Knives in the hands of a strong kid would be a slaughter. I know someone who virtually cut his lawyer's head off with a fish boning knife. He was one of the first people to use the insanity defense to get out of a prison sentence. Something like this is easy to hide and razor sharp:

Bon appétit!

44 posted on 04/10/2014 9:37:50 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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