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MH370 'may be found in daysí as ship picks up signals again
The Telegraph UK ^ | April 9, 2014 4:28pm BST | Jonathan Pearlman

Posted on 04/09/2014 8:53:31 PM PDT by blueplum

Sydney - The search zone for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane has been limited to a narrow strip of the Indian Ocean, with the authorities confident that they will find the aircraft “in a matter of days” after two new sets of underwater signals were detected. :snip: They have all been heard within an area about 20 miles long and 10 miles wide, about 650 miles off the north-west coast of Australia, although a final search zone is yet to be demarcated. :snip: All the signals have been detected along a narrow strip of the Indian Ocean in an area known as Wharton Basin, a mostly flat underwater region that has not been mapped in 50 years. :snip: The latest signals did not feature two pulses, which were heard on Saturday and believed to be from the separate “pingers” on the black box’s flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder. Authorities believe it is possible that one of the “pingers” has already died.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; hijacking; mh370; whartonbasin
wow. from millions of square miles to a 10x20 area. 650 miles off Australia would be, what? 90 minutes out by air?
1 posted on 04/09/2014 8:53:31 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

I’d scratch my head but, there is no hair there


2 posted on 04/09/2014 8:57:01 PM PDT by advertising guy ( <------------- lotta white in here ------------>)
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To: blueplum

They should have a new rule:

“He that heareth it shall FISHESH for it...”


3 posted on 04/09/2014 8:57:44 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

In water THAT deep?


4 posted on 04/09/2014 8:58:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: blueplum

wow. from millions of square miles to a 10x20 area. 650 miles off Australia would be, what? 90 minutes out by air?
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It is an impressive feat—I hope this ends with them successfully finding the crash site.

Some of the blame America first and 9/11-Truther crowd are trying to push the theory that the US took the plane and landed it at Diego Garcia for some sort of nefarious reason. I want to see that lie deflated ASAP!


5 posted on 04/09/2014 9:13:46 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: blueplum

I have heard that the ping device should have stopped transmitting a long time ago.


6 posted on 04/09/2014 9:16:58 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: HiTech RedNeck

-9,000m depth. Are the CVR and FDR rated for that depth? Even if they aren’t is it possible for them to withstand the pressure?


7 posted on 04/09/2014 9:26:30 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s more like 4500m deep, which is certainly very deep, but well within the depths that flight recorder are supposed to be able to survive (they are certified to at least 6000m). It is however pretty much the maximum depth that the ROV Australia has sent down there is certified to operate at, which could make things awkward.


8 posted on 04/09/2014 9:36:29 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

9 posted on 04/09/2014 9:39:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: naturalman1975

What’s interesting about the Wharton Basin is that there isn’t much info on it. There was a huge quake 7.8 magnitude quake in 2000 which should have generated some interest from geologists for study.

http://adartonamap.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/the-wharton-basin/


10 posted on 04/09/2014 9:42:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

11 posted on 04/09/2014 9:56:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There are parts of the Wharton Basin that are deeper, but the area where the pings are being detected is around 4500 metres, according to a number of reports I’ve seen.

Bear in mind that in Australia, this is bigger news than it is elsewhere because of the proximity and our involvement in the search. The news channels are giving very regular updates of any information they have - or don’t have.


12 posted on 04/09/2014 9:57:27 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: blueplum

FREEPERS:

A quiz.

How many vessels are sending pings? ( )
How many vessels are receiving pings? ( )
How many frequencies are there? ( )

Thoughts:


13 posted on 04/09/2014 10:00:56 PM PDT by golux
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To: naturalman1975

So when is Angus’ next press conference?


14 posted on 04/09/2014 10:03:39 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: blueplum

There is something extremely fishy going on in that isolated part of the world.


15 posted on 04/09/2014 10:04:48 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: golux

That actually was a problem a few days ago - one of the early Chinese reports was probably a ship picking up errant pings - but that’s now well in hand.

The Australian Defence Force does know what it’s doing.


16 posted on 04/09/2014 10:11:24 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Kennard

I think there is likely to be one this evening, but I am not sure - maybe in about four hours or so.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 10:12:00 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: House Atreides
Some of the blame America first and 9/11-Truther crowd are trying to push the theory that the US took the plane and landed it at Diego Garcia for some sort of nefarious reason. I want to see that lie deflated ASAP!
Me too, but nothing will stop the conspiracy nuts. You've even got some whack-a-doodle here on FR postulating that "they" have planted a black box in the ocean.
18 posted on 04/09/2014 10:13:33 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you. I am missing Angus’ ‘traditional’ noon press conferences.


19 posted on 04/09/2014 10:13:34 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: golux

no ships are ‘sending’ pings. They are listening on microphones.

the frequency of the pings they’re focused on is 33.5. so other frequencies wouldn’t matter

from the pics I’ve seen, it looks like the Ocean Shield is the only large ship on target.

the Australians are also dropping listening bouys with microphones that will themselves drop on a tether to 1K feet below the surface


20 posted on 04/09/2014 10:22:28 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

SHOW ME A TAIL NUMBER or ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE VERIFIED TO BE FROM MH370.

Till then I’m going with the Pak thing.

And NOT just a FDR/CVR, I want Airframe/cargo/luggage/Remains/ect.

I find it VERY hard that the USA/PRK/Ruskies don’t know WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 10:33:12 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: mabarker1

PRK=PRC


22 posted on 04/09/2014 10:33:59 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

PDF file. 8 pages. 2 pages of descriptive text. rest are maps. Photos of basin bottom are on page 8

http://www.deepseadrilling.org/22/volume/dsdp22_appendixI.pdf


23 posted on 04/09/2014 10:34:44 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

They said the boxes couldn’t transmit beyond April 1...Maybe they were recharged somewhere and dumped there...


24 posted on 04/09/2014 10:52:07 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

They said the boxes couldn’t transmit beyond April 1...Maybe they were recharged somewhere and dumped there...
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Possibly by space aliens.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 10:56:16 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: blueplum

Heh heh heh heh heh. Hit the pinger again.

26 posted on 04/09/2014 11:01:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: LukeL
I have heard that the ping device should have stopped transmitting a long time ago.

It just passed its nominal 30-day battery life. But that's only its nominal battery life. Good engineers are conservative about such things, so, hopefully, it likely will last a while longer.

The president of the company that makes the pinger, Anish Patel, said it doesn't cut off suddenly but gradually fades out as its battery runs out.

However, he also said that Malaysian Airlines had not sent in any pingers for battery replacement since about 2010, which means that either the batteries are quite stale or Malaysian Airlines had found another source for battery replacement.

27 posted on 04/09/2014 11:20:02 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mabarker1
Are your expectations reasonable? If someone was trying to glide the plane in on a controlled crash and the plane was good at surfing waves, maybe you'd find a few fuselage pieces intact. But if it was splashed nose down and at speed it would have hit the water like a brick wall. About the only thing that would remain identifiable in that case would be the black box.

family and friends SHOULD NOT WATCH this video of a F-4 as it hits a brick wall at 400mph. I'm posting it for illustrative purposes only.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUwfj8-bcsc

28 posted on 04/10/2014 12:32:07 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: House Atreides

Possibly by space aliens.

&&
No, I’m pretty sure George Bush did it.


29 posted on 04/10/2014 1:45:19 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: LukeL
I have heard that the ping device should have stopped transmitting a long time ago.

Sort of like the NASA space probes still operational many years beyond their life expectancy.

30 posted on 04/10/2014 1:48:04 AM PDT by fso301
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To: mabarker1
SHOW ME A TAIL NUMBER or ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE VERIFIED TO BE FROM MH370.

Has it occured to you that once the pingers are found, other debris will also be found in the same area?

31 posted on 04/10/2014 1:53:08 AM PDT by fso301
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To: naturalman1975; golux
That actually was a problem a few days ago - one of the early Chinese reports was probably a ship picking up errant pings

Water can do strange things with sound. The Chinese may have picked up pings in a manner not entirely unlike picking up a radio station well beyond normal reception range only to have it suddenly fade away.

32 posted on 04/10/2014 1:58:44 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

In the atmosphere, one phenomenon that can cause that is called “tropospheric ducting”. It happens when layers of air stratify creating a “duct” that directs the signal, much like a wave guide used in microwave radio transmission. I recall traveling through northern Louisiana once on my way to Alexandria, LA, to work on a cellular system. I was picking up a Colorado Springs, CO, FM station 900 miles away for about 30 minutes. Various densities of salinity and temperature cause sound to behave similarly in the open ocean.


33 posted on 04/10/2014 4:55:02 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: blueplum
And the Flight Attendant sez: "A portion of this flight will be over water. In the unlikely event of a water landing your seat cushion can be used as a floatation device"

Remember where this supposedly took place. This part of the ocean is home to what sailors call the "roarin' forties", i.e, where 40 knot winds and 40' seas are common. Even with a perfect ditching in those conditions the airplane would have quickly broken up. If the airplane broke up on impact or as a result of the sea conditions there would be floating debris everywhere. Depending on how the airplane was configured the debris would include a couple hundred floatation devices, aka, seat cushions. They don't sink.

34 posted on 04/10/2014 5:04:00 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: fso301; blueplum

YES, I was born into and raised in the Airline Industry.

Like I said, I want proof. this whole escapade is absurd. Misinformation/misdirection/obfuscation and lies from the start.

You can’t tell Me that the Major Intel Groups around the world don’t know the truth of what/where/when/why MH370 just went POOF!

Yes, I’ve seen that F4 footage many times.

And the “Black Boxes” are ORANGE, BTW.


35 posted on 04/10/2014 12:28:53 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: mabarker1
And NOT just a FDR/CVR, I want Airframe/cargo/luggage/Remains/ect.

If they do recover the data recorders then it will be simple to prove that came from MH370 through serial numbers and the like. So that should mee your requirement for "ANTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE VERIFIED TO BE FROM MH370".

36 posted on 04/10/2014 12:33:58 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

That would be getting closer.

Maybe I should just wait for the zer0 to have a press conference on cnn and just faint in awe...


37 posted on 04/10/2014 12:42:03 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: mabarker1; blueplum
You can’t tell Me that the Major Intel Groups around the world don’t know the truth of what/where/when/why MH370 just went POOF!

Who say's they don't but what purpose is served for any of them to show their cards?

38 posted on 04/10/2014 3:00:02 PM PDT by fso301
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To: mabarker1

You’re angry at the USA but the anger is misdirected. ‘we’ knew the aircraft was missing when Boeing knew, about 3 hours after MH370 flew over Palua Perak. Inmarsat crunched the data from the service pings and provided the infamous Arc to Malaysia less than 4 days later, on March 12. On March 13th the USA began a push for permission to search the Indian Ocean.

Wall Street Journal ran the Inmarsat story and Malaysia promptly denied it was possible and shelved the intel, directing a search first off Vietnam, then on March 15, in Malacca Strait, telling fishermen to watch out for suitcases.

When Malaysia finally granted permission for searchers to begin an Indian Ocean search on March 18, they were restricted to the southermost reaches of the Inmarsat Arc. It was a constant fight to get permission to move north.

A March 28th article highlighted the growing tension between Malaysia and the USA over the lack of cooperation. On March 29th, Mr. Malaysia encouraged the anti-american, pro-Diego Garcia conspiracy crowd by announcing there may be survivors, contradicting his own announcement on the 24th that all were lost at sea. On April 2 we’re told the passengers were all perfect little angels, but, by the way, they haven’t got around to checking out any crewmembers, and, since they are the stolen passport/shady character transport hub of the world, they don’t need no stinkin’ Interpol databases, either.

It took until April 5th, for Malaysia to give permission to search where they are now.

The USA answered the where and when long ago. The who will be discovered. and the why and what is left to speculation at the moment but the speculative answer has always been terrorism (being covered up by Malaysia for political reasons). Could we have been on or close to the current location 30 days ago? youbetcha. Why weren’t we? Malaysia.


39 posted on 04/11/2014 12:11:06 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Well, Thanks for the Evaluation Dr. Freud.

I’m not talking about Public info. I’m talking about the “Intel World”


40 posted on 04/11/2014 5:14:30 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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41 posted on 04/12/2014 1:56:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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