Skip to comments.DHS study: North Korea capable of EMP attack on U.S.
Posted on 04/10/2014 4:00:16 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
WASHINGTON A long-suppressed report prepared by the Department of Homeland Security for the Defense Department concludes that North Korea could deliver on its threats to destroy the United States with a nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack.
The report remains blocked from release to the American public.
However, a copy obtained by Peter Vincent Pry from sources within DHS finds North Korea could use its Unha-3 space launch vehicle to deliver a nuclear warhead as a satellite over the South Pole to attack the U.S. from the south.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/dhs-study-north-korea-capable-of-emp-attack-on-u-s/#vd4I5JDwebgQHTta.99
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NORK EMP Ping.
Abny savvy Freepers know what, precisely, this would knock out or where we could find a comprehensive list?
Computers, yes; telephones, too, I’m guessing. Televisions and portable radios?
ATM machines, eh?
How about microwave ovens?
The thermostat on the wall?
The whole electrical grid?
What about water pumps out in the yard?
City/suburban water pumps that bring us our suburban water...?
Satellites in space?
What’s the range of an EMP blast?
It seems these studies always have an agenda, whether it is true or not, makes no matter.
What is the agenda?
I doubt they are much of a threat to the continental US, EMP or otherwise. They seem incapable of many things.
My preference is that they hit a relatively remote island in Hawaii. Unless an EMP is DEMONSTRATED nobody will believe it’s real. They simply won’t...and our systems will not get hardened.
We’ve already made the decision to let Iran and the Norks go nuclear - we might as well start defending ourselves against the results of that policy.
Ideally the range is line of sight. One bomb over kansas could effect the entire us. Emp can effect any device with a chip in it. Practically the damage depends on strength of the pulse. Distance, efficiency of the bomb, metal or earthen shielding will impact the damage. Damage could be total or it could be hit and miss.
The last i heard their rocket could only put about 65kg into orbit. Their bomb is thought to be significantly heavier.
if we were to reply in kind, nothing would happen to North Korea...they have nothing for an EMP to effect.
We have exploded thousands of nuclear weapons below and above ground. Many were very high-altitude. EMP effects are real, but hysteria exaggerates EMT threat. One 10-50kt nuke isn’t going to send us back to the 19th century.
The US government under this president is not in the business of defending its citizens. I’m afraid that EMP defense is up to individuals.
Ergo, this one is not too high on my OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE list, ya know ?
Why would they want to attack the US with an EMP?
I doubt that any other country will bother to keep sending them food.
On your questions as to the motive, what makes you think that logic would enter into the equation?
Pry said that an EMP attack on the U.S. would not have to originate from North Korea but could be a missile, such as the SA-2, launched from a freighter off the U.S. East or Gulf Coasts. At that point, there would be no missile defense capable of halting such an event.
The people in power in NK have all the electricity they want or need.
Very highly probable China has strategically prepositioned EMP devices. No fuss no muss.
A moment after, ha, they will wait a year until American society has totally chaotically dissolved. Then they willl recolonize the new world.
Please elaborate your comments.
How long, do you think, before they get that warhead?
Not really. They didn't get past the Gulf of Aden, but your point is taken.
"...China has strategically prepositioned EMP devices."
China has ICBM's in silos. Just change the flight profile and detonation altitude. They do not need to "preposition".
They could do it...with help. Chinese/Russian/ Iranian...techs “advising”. How would we know after they take out the grid? Then the Chinese/ Russians step in to “punish” NK and help us out with rebuilding...
In theory if everything works as t should, it is theoretically possible
I’ve seen no evidence of the actual ability for everything to work perfectly
But why go over the south pole? Too far, and in the wrong direction. Why not launch from the far north Atlantic, and follow a great-circle route to a point roughly 250 miles above Kansas, and let the nuke off? Or, just pop it off 150 miles above Washington, DC, which would probably darken the whole East Coast?
” North Korea is going to need access to a pretty powerful warhead—probably in the 250-300 kT”
and EMP is faily insensitive to the specific size of the nuclear blast - A 1-10kT warhead will do the trick. It’s the gamma-yield that matters. If NK has a “fizzler” warhead as has been speculated, which is an enhanced gamma-yield warhead they may, indeed have an existing EMP capability.
Agree, no 50kt nuke as such. But if they add a depleted-uranium casing, with help from the Russians or Chinese, that significantly improves gamma output, to maximize the Compton effect, and pop it off high enough above the atmosphere, yeah, it could blow every ultra-high-voltage transformer on the East Coast. And America only has one manufacturer left. And they have a backlog. It would be MONTHS without power. Yes, even with a 50 kt nuke.
It's the geomagnetic currents from the Compton effect electrons interacting with Earth's magnetic field that does it. With that level of yield, your iPhone would be just fine. The transformers that couple to the power generating stations, though, would be toast.
The crazies are gaining in power each and every day. “World Destabilization” any one?
What gets “knocked out” is highly dependent on the parameters of the blast. Most likely, it would kill every last ultra-high-voltage transformer on the electrical grid before it killed your car or wall thermostat.
Yeah, it’s a stupid plan. Launching from a ship in the Gulf would be more effective.
I don't think so. The EMP effect in the K3 test was accidental, remember. With gamma enhancement of the warhead from their Russian or Chinese friends, a significantly smaller yield--maybe as low as 50kt-- could do the same job, EMP-wise. Remember, it would be the electrical grid their after. So, it's the secondary EMP effect--geomagnetic currents-- not the primary EMP effect--the one that kills "chips"-- that they would be after.
Exactly right. For tinfoil hatters, it might be to cover a false flag. As for me, I only say, "get off your asses, quit spying on the American people, and do something about the real threats. That's what you get paid for. Are you incompetent?"
But the Chinese would need to be able to “blame it” on the Norks. They don’t want US generals overriding Obama and raining nuclear fire down on the their country.
Right on, RFEngineer! Exactly what I have been saying. Enhancing gamma output is possible independent of yield.
The questionable content of Chinese satellites currently orbiting the planet might be of some concern. Especially stationary orbits over strategic targets. Can we trust US Space Command in Cheyenne Mt. has a firm grip what’s up there now?
They are just as likely to nuke themselves with their own bomb as we are likely to nuke ourselves with Hillary.
Does this mean Joe Sixpack will have his house and his person searched more often by DHS?
You make another good point. However, I don’t know we can expect the USAF to know what is inside a Chinese satellite.
I’m not too worried.
Their leader doesn’t seem bright enough to have the ability to operate an electric can opener.
If you want to discuss this freepmail me.
Scary stuff! If it were from a source more reliable than WND, I’d be extremely worried.
So all the tanks, bullets, swat teams, thugs and goons are to take on the North Koreans? I wish.
You would think, but, I don’t know.
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