Skip to comments.Negotiating With Terrorists Doesn’t Work
Posted on 04/10/2014 6:03:01 AM PDT by SJackson
Lets set aside the moral issue that its wrong to negotiate with terrorists and the practical issue that negotiating with terrorists encourages more terrorism. Those are both right and obvious, but theres also a third issue. Negotiating with terrorists doesnt work unless they intend to stop being terrorists.
The peace process between Israel and the PLO has never worked and will never work because the members of the terrorist group never intended to stop being terrorists. The PLO yammers on about Palestine, a country that never existed and a name that has nothing to do with the Arab conquerors they descend from, but functions like a terrorist group, not like a state.
Diplomats and politicians write up annual reports claiming that the Palestinian Authority has made progress with its civic institutions and its economic development. The truth is that if anything it has actually gone backward.
Mahmoud Abbas has no intention of running for office. The elected legislature has long been defunct and actual decisions are made by the PLO Council. The Palestinian Authority is a dictatorship run by high profile leaders of a terrorist group. It is less open and democratic than it was a decade ago and it wasnt very open and democratic back then either.
The only progress that the latest incarnation of the peace process achieved was to give Abbas enough confidence to boot his Prime Minister who was there to assure the Euros that there was some slightly competent management at the helm. The same pundits who were praising Fayyad for salvaging the Palestinian Authority have already forgotten about him.
The international community has poured fortunes into the Palestinian Authority to construct civic institutions and engage in economic development. Despite all that, the Palestinian Authority is a smaller scale model of every regional tyranny with economic monopolies for the sons of Abbas, no freedom and no elections that matter.
Unlike them, its also incapable of paying for anything or maintaining its own economy.
Imagine if Assads regime was entirely subsidized by foreign donors. Imagine that it was also largely run by foreign experts free of charge. Imagine if it didnt actually do anything except use aid money to pay its gangs of terrorists and bureaucrats who dont actually do anything either except occasionally kill people.
Thats as good as the Palestinian Authority ever gets. Its not a state, its a welfare state run by terrorists.
And thats the problem.
Terrorists and states negotiate differently. Terrorists escalate a conflict to achieve leverage for their latest demand. They dont seek a final settlement. There can be no final settlement because that would mean the end of terror.
Arafat and Abbas always negotiated the same way. They arrived prepared to disrupt the negotiating session at a crucial moment. The peace process was their hostage and they always hijacked it and began issuing demands.
Its no surprise that the same thing happened yet again.
Faced with having to compromise, Abbas looked around and took the peace process hostage. Again. Now the process is, once again, on the brink of collapse. Netanyahu is resigned because this is what he knew would happen all along; as did anyone who had been paying attention for the last twenty years.
That doesnt include John Kerry or most Western politicians and diplomats who still assume that if you get the parties to sit down at a table, they will compromise and work things out.
Negotiations work when both parties view them as an end to the conflict, rather than an extension of it. Terrorists treat a willingness to negotiate as a sign of weakness. Negotiations are their punctuation marks between bombings. The negotiations dont end or even interrupt the conflict, they perpetuate it.
Arafat and Abbas never abandoned terrorism. Not only did they fight like terrorists, but they also negotiated like terrorists. And terrorists cant be negotiated with because they dont view negotiations as a long term peace process, but as a short term means of achieving their latest demand.
Abbas approached the latest pre-negotiating negotiations with Israel the same way that his terrorists approached airplane hijackings. Instead of seeking a final outcome, he instead took the negotiations hostage repeatedly to secure the release of some of his terrorists. Having achieved that goal, he then took the process hostage again to extract the release of even more important terrorists.
Israel and the United States have long term goals, but Abbas only has short term goals. He isnt out to liberate Palestine, but to score some easy victories that will let him coast along as a terrorist leader.
Unlike Arafat or Bin Laden, Mahmoud Abbas is not an ambitious man and thats a very good thing. Ambitious terrorists are much more trouble. Abbas is content with the status quo, but always looking for an angle. He may get around to getting statehood for his piece of the West Bank as long as it can include enough Israeli territory that his responsibilities and his power structure dont have to change.
Abbas is not interested in change. Neither are most of his comrades who live very comfortably at the top of the Fatah heap. That is also why he isnt interested in the peace process.
Israel and the United States want to end the conflict, but Abbas wants to keep it going. The conflict has been good to him. Ending it would stick him with a tiny country, accusations of treason and the tedious tasks of government.
And whats in it for him?
The teenager who has been educated and indoctrinated by the system set up by Arafat and run by Abbas believes in dying for Palestine, but Abbas knows quite well that Palestine is just Greater Syria misspelled and that Syria isnt looking too promising these days.
He doesnt believe in Palestine. He believes in terrorism. He believes in Abbas.
Abbas knows his own limitations. Hes not a great leader. He isnt capable of running a country and when it comes to playing politics, he isnt very good at it. If the Palestinian Authority had anything like real democracy, its doubtful that anyone would elect him dogcatcher.
The president of the Palestinian Authority is a very lucky man and he knows it. He has wealth, power and foreign leaders take him seriously. But thats only because he holds the key to the peace process. Fast forward another five years into some imaginary utopia in which a final settlement has been achieved and he would have trouble getting anyone to return his phone calls, let alone provide him with the foreign aid that allows him to live in the manner that he has become accustomed to.
Peace has nothing to offer Abbas. It has nothing to offer Fatah. Its just the bait in the trap that keeps money flowing into their pockets.
Arafat didnt have a plan for a country. He had a plan to for an international mercenary force that would fight and die in the name of a country that never existed and that he had no expectation of ever creating. The peace process didnt change that. What it did was increase his leverage over Israel, the United States and the world.
The peace process always ends in conflict because the side that cares least about peace has all the leverage. That is why no matter how many times the negotiations begin, they always end in war.
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You’re just not negotiating correctly. To properly negotiate, you must have your knee in their guts, and your knife at their throat.
And then you NEGOTIATE which ear the bullet goes in.
Simple, straightforward, and repeatable. . .
I endorse the negotiating style demonstrated in the movie “The Fifth Element”.
But enough about appeasing the gay mafia.
President Jefferson showed us how to negotiate with terrorists when he sent the Navy and Marines to Tripoli.
This is the core problem of the West's inability to come to terms with Islam, terror and radicalism in the world.
Political Correctness has only made matters worse.
These platitudes (stated above) in every diplomat or Western leaders’ speeches are meaningless because the “other side” despises you and your weaknesses.
Via your weaknesses to see the truth, they feel they will eventually defeat you, not just in ideas but in combat, (Jihad). They may have hated G.W. Bush but they respected him. President Obama has no credibility. He is neither respected or feared, hence all hell is breaking out accross the planet.
The Western, Judeo-Christian concept or mind set that all indivuduals on this planet want the same things and that compromise via negotiation is the civil and most just way to settle disputes leads policy makers down the same deadly quicksand pit that we step into, time after time.
These “professional” highly intelligent, highly educated Western elite leaders of diplomacy miss the point every time and are constantly caught off guard by events (e.g., The Arab Spring, the Russian RESET, etc.) If what we read about the NSA is true, NOTHING should catch us off guard.
We can step around the truth (that the Palestinians and Arabs will never recognize Israel) - or Western (read Christian) claims over Holy places that are held dear to Islam via fabrications, lies and propaganda from the Arabs and Islam but it will never work.
The only people today who really see the reality as it is in the Middle East are the Israelis and maybe even the Saudis. The Israelis, who are on the front lines for Western freedoms know the enemy and even use that word, “Enemy” which to sensitive Western ears, sounds very “primitive”. Yet, the very Western states Israel defends and stands for heaps scorn on them for being honest, no worse that the current US President and his Secretary of State who live in total denial.
The end game for all this lack of understanding will come to a head with an arch enemy of the West (Iran) getting the A-Bomb. Then, there will be much self criticism about “why we didn’t see it coming, like 1939 all over again...
It is amazing to watch the Obama administration dance around the Python, pretending it just isn't there as Chamberlain did in Munich, 1938.
You're right fella - President Jefferson showed us how to negotiate with terrorists... We're tried pretending the Palestinian Authority is a democratic group, but they're not...
Well HELLO? Is there any one home? What have I been saying for such a long time? I’m not the first one to say it, and I’m sure, there were people through the ages that also said it. “YOU CANNOT NEGOCIATE ANYTHING WITH “EVIL”. BECAUSE “EVIL” WILL WIN OUT IN THE END”. The reason why this is so, is that “EVIL” don’t really believe in what they have agreed to. The very minute that you sign on the “DOTTED LINE”, the “EVIL” party that you have been talking to will break the “COVENANT”, they have just agreed to. The only way I have found to deal with “EVIL” is either to walk away from them or kill them. There are no other options.