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Townhall.com ^ | April 10, 2014 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 04/10/2014 6:49:05 AM PDT by Kaslin

So what does the Tea Party want this fall?

A repeat of 2010, or a repeat of 2012?

The Tea Party succeeded spectacularly in 2010.

Its principled enthusiasm put Republicans back in charge of the House of Representatives and, if the Tea Party hadn't been so stupid in several races, it should have given the GOP control of the Senate.

In 2010 Tea Party favorites Marco Rubio, Rand Paul and Mike Lee won primaries and went on to win senate seats in Florida, Kentucky and Utah.

But the Tea Party also won several other Republican primaries with candidates that turned out to be total embarrassments.

Remember Christine O'Donnell in Delaware?

She defeated U.S. Rep. Michael Castle in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat. Then she had to spend all fall explaining to voters why she was not a witch.

Castle would have won that seat in a walk. But O'Donnell was almost laughed out of the state, losing 56-40 and handing Democrats a Senate spot they should never have had.

In 2010 two other shaky Tea Party-backed primary victors, Sharron Angle in Nevada and Ken Buck in Colorado, suffered similar fates in the general election.

In 2012 it was the same dumb story - rousing Tea Party primary victories that thrilled conservative talk-show hosts in May but guaranteed GOP losses in the fall.

Yes, Ted Cruz won big in Texas. But only four of the 16 Senate candidates backed by the Tea Party won in the fall.

It wasn't pretty in 2012.

After the Tea Party primaried GOP incumbent Sen. Dick Lugar of Indiana, its candidate Richard Mourdock went on to say some really stupid things about abortion and got his butt whipped in the fall, 50-44.

And of course who can forget the great Todd Akin, the Republican House member from Missouri who was going to defeat Sen. Claire McCaskill -- until he started blathering about "legitimate rape" and his campaign tanked.

Now we're getting ready for 2014 and the Tea Party still hasn't learned how not to shoot itself in both feet. It's still putting up primary candidates who clearly are not ready for primetime - or any time.

In Texas the Tea Party ran Rep. Steve Stockman in the March primary against sitting Senator John Cornyn.

Stockman, who gave up his House seat and barely campaigned, will be remembered most for giving away barf bags for every $10 contribution.

A few people may have thought that was cute or funny stuff, but all it did was make the Tea Party - and the GOP -- look incompetent and foolish. Especially when Cronyn won by 58-19 percent.

Then there's Kentucky, where Matt Bevin is the Tea Party candidate challenging incumbent Senator Mitch McConnell in the May 20 primary.

Last week, after he was "caught" speaking at a rally meant to build support for legal cockfighting in the state, Bevin defended himself by saying he was there because it was a state rights rally and he didn't know it was a cockfighting rally.

OK, so he's either lying or really stupid. In either case, he's a lousy candidate and the Tea Party should ask him to do the Free World a favor and quit.

The Tea Party zealots who haven't learned from their mistakes in 2010 and 2012 are trying their best to screw up the GOP's chances to win the Senate this fall.

Where does the Tea Party find these people to run in primaries? Most important, why do they offer them up as legitimate Republican candidates?

The Tea Party bosses have been listening to too much talk radio. They seem to think that what makes a good Republican candidate is someone who sounds like a talk radio host.

But talk radio is all about bombast and attracting callers, not about winning elections.

If Republicans are going to win general elections in 2014 and beyond, we've got to put up principled conservative candidates who sound like senators, congressmen and governors - not kooks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: mattbevin; stevestockman; talkradio

1 posted on 04/10/2014 6:49:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Tea Party is not about winning each and every race, and only playing in the races it knows it will win... that is ridiculous.

The Tea Party movement is about running LOTS of conservative candidates, and expect to lose some and win some... and many more wins than losses. There is an element of risk, but the more attempts there are, the more successes there will be.


2 posted on 04/10/2014 6:52:28 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Kaslin

Let me get this straight...Former TALK RADIO HOST Michael Reagan is calling out candidates with connections to TALK RADIO as being “kooks”?


3 posted on 04/10/2014 6:54:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin
..if the Tea Party hadn't been so stupid in several races, it should have given the GOP control of the Senate.

The Tea Party helped get "electable" candidates like Scott Brown elected in 2010. He eventually turned around and stabbed The Tea Party in the back.

Two years later, the guy couldn't even beat a virtually brainless woman who lied about her heritage to get into college.

Do you blame The Tea Party for his loss?

Besides, what good did it do us to get him elected in the first place.

Tea Partyphobes like Michael Reagan make me sick.

4 posted on 04/10/2014 6:57:14 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin
If Republicans are going to win general elections in 2014 and beyond, we've got to put up principled conservative candidates who sound like senators, congressmen and governors - not kooks

Given the right sound bite everyone can be made to look like a kook. Even you, Mr. Reagan. In fact, I'm sure you have made a lot of comments in the past that the MSM could spin as being kooky.

Geez, the democrats say kooky things all the time and the MSM and the GOPe give them a pass, but when one Tea Party candidate articulates something in an uncomfortable way, the whole mass of the GOPe, the democrat machine and the MSM all come down on him or her like he or she is the biggest idiot since Joe Biden Dan Qualye

The GOPe and the Democrats are out to destroy the Tea Party. That's the bottom line, Mr. Reagan. No principled conservative is going to get any assistance from the GOPe or the big money machine that runs the National Government unless they make a back room promise to toe the line when it comes to the establishment way of doing things.

If Mr. Reagan thinks that he can do better than Christine O'Donnell, then he should shut up and run!

5 posted on 04/10/2014 6:59:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Kaslin
Remember Christine O'Donnell in Delaware? She defeated U.S. Rep. Michael Castle in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat. Then she had to spend all fall explaining to voters why she was not a witch.

You should have to explain why you still have a radio show.

Viva Scott Brown!

6 posted on 04/10/2014 6:59:41 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin
What the frick happened to Michael?

This line below is flat out BS:

Yes, Ted Cruz won big in Texas. But only four of the 16 Senate candidates backed by the Tea Party won in the fall.

In many cases these were the DC standard-bearers like Mack in FL, George Allen in VA and Tommy Thompson where the base voters settled on the 'most electable'. Same with Berg, who had both DC approval and base approval. There were NOT 16 tea party candidates in the general election. It's a bold faced lie on Reagan's part. I've never seen him use deceptive propaganda like this before.

The tea party candidates were the ONLY ones with success in 2012. We picked up Deb Fischer and Cruz.

Most of the tea party did not support Akin the primary, and most wanted him to get out when he screwed up. Only the Huckabee crowd endorsed him and stuck with him after the catastrophic comments. The only black mark on the tea party was in Indiana, dumping Lugar wasn't much different than having a Dem at this point. One could argue Lugar wouldn't have lasted another term and we could have waited it out and ensured it stay a GOP seat. That's a reasonable argument. One can also show evidence that the Lugar crowd undercut the primary winner by not supporting him in the general.

I am so sick of the grassroots being held to a standard no one in politics is held to. They don't bat 1000, but neither do the 'smart people' in the party who have a terrible record in elections AND in governing. Neither party wins all the races all the time, and neither party can predict with certitude how a candidate will fare in the general election. Shame on Michael Reagan. He has allowed himself to be compromised.

7 posted on 04/10/2014 7:00:43 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Kaslin

The TEA Party was undermined by the RNC, GOP-e and the RNCC.

They went out if their way to destroy or marginalize many candidates who were clearly favored by the conservative electorate.

Further, their wholesale support of a crap candidate for president, Mitt Romney, was a millstone around our neck, as the anchor candidate to carry the vote in 2012.

He became a Hobsons choice and enough voters said, to the establishment “FU!”. They stayed home.

What was a mathematical certainty of gains in the House and Senate was eroded by establishment force and voter disappointment.

“What? Our voice, our choice doesn’t matter? Go to hell!”

This year we have a fairly clean slate.

I think there are some shills in the mix, that the establishment has put forward but, they are not overtly undermining our choice this year.

I expect decent gains and look forward to this election cycle.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 7:05:49 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Kaslin
What a cherry picker.

You want to blame The Tea Party for Allen West's loss to Alan Grayson? ALAN GRAYSON???

Unlike DemocRATS, at least we have the ability to be embarrassed.

Sharon Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Ken Buck, et al would be far preferable to Alan Grayson. If people voters are too stupid to see who the best man to represent them would be in THAT race, then there's no rational explanation for why Angle, O'Donnell and Buck lost.

Todd Akin I can see. But where is it written that only Tea Party candidates put their foot in their mouths when it comes to issues like abortion?

9 posted on 04/10/2014 7:06:09 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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“The TEA Party ran Steve Stockman...” No. No they didn’t. Stockman ran as a spoiler to bleed off and dissipate TEA Party support. He ran no ads, made no speeches and was generally AWOL for the entire time he was an announced candidate. This didn’t stop the local Texas MSM from breathlessly reporting about him from time to time as the “TEA Party candidate” which pretty much sucked all the air out of the legitimate TEA Party candidate, Dwayne Stovall.

The TEA Party will have to do a far better job of announcing who is legit and who is not in the future. Frauds like Steve Stockman should be called out for who they are early.

I wonder how big a check from John Cornyn old Steve is cashing?


10 posted on 04/10/2014 7:06:21 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: Kaslin

As much as I respect you, Michael, there is one thing you forget. Many of those tea party winners who lost the November elections were targeted by dirty tricks, investigations and allegations of misconduct that were later proven false, and dirty tricks by the republican establishment, as well. I’m not saying that they had no hand in their demise, but clearly some were wrongfully ruined so that the next time around they could get an establishment republican elected again. Let’s be honest about that, al least! Have you joined the establishment republicans? I’m beginning to think so, and I’d say that your father would sit you down and give you a good talking to.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 7:10:29 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Kaslin

After re-reading, there are so many flimsy arguments here it is just absurd. Two that jumped out show how clueless Michael has become:

‘In Texas the Tea Party ran Rep. Steve Stockman in the March primary’
‘The Tea Party bosses have been listening to too much talk radio.’

Michael, the “Tea Party’ didn’t run Stockman. Stockman decided to run for the office. Some supported him. Some didn’t. A lot of notable people didn’t get involved in that campaign or supported other candidates. I guess no one else has a right to run against a poorly performing incumbent according to Michael. Or maybe only of Washington ‘deems’ them worthy, or if there is a 100% certainty of success.

I would rather people run against incumbants than not because it will improve their performance.

The second sentence tell me Michael has completely lost it. There are no Tea Party bosses, and if he doesn’t know that, he needs to be dismissed as completely clueless and out of touch. What a stupid statement.

I hate to break it to him again (because he once knew this), but the same people he is criticizing are the exact people that carried Ronald Reagan to office. The exact same criticisms were directed at Reagan and his supporters in the 70s and early 80s before he trumped them all and won two terms in a big way, and advanced the same agenda being fought for today.

So disappointing.


12 posted on 04/10/2014 7:13:18 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Kaslin

Sowell!? Reagan!? What the ‘H’ is going on that we are seeing these sort of anti T-Party inclinations from those we mostly consider of our side?

I for one am not going to reconsider my conservatism.


13 posted on 04/10/2014 7:14:32 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ilgipper

Mike Reagan has his GOPe marching orders to de-construct the TEA Party, just like Ben Carson, George Will and Thomas Sowell.


14 posted on 04/10/2014 7:18:47 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Kaslin

> The Tea Party zealots

Not exactly an expert in persuasion himself, is he?


15 posted on 04/10/2014 7:24:34 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Starve the RINOs: Not one dollar, not one vote.)
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To: Kaslin
News flash for Michael: Tea Partiers listen to less talk radio today. We're too busy working to keep our heads above water in the Obama Economy.

With the exception of Rush and Levin, the rest of the national broadcasters are linked to GOPe and the RNC. The local station in Dallas has a crappy signal, and the only local conservative has been shunted to 8PM.

16 posted on 04/10/2014 7:25:16 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Kaslin

In the absence of real organization and money, it’s not going to matter much what the tea party thinks. A case in point is South Carolina, where a field of political neophytes, several of which claim various conservative or tea party endorsements, are going to split the vote and allow Lindsay Graham to win. And, if one of the two candidates who have former ties to Ron Paul get anywhere near, you can be assured the circular firing squad will turn on them.

There is a way a Tea Party could be effective. What’s going on ain’t it.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 7:28:41 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: TADSLOS
Mike Reagan has his GOPe marching orders to de-construct the TEA Party, just like Ben Carson, George Will and Thomas Sowell.

Clearly. This was a strange change in his message. I never took him as a tool of the DC establishment. Same with Carson...and to a large extent Sowell. George Will...par for the course.

18 posted on 04/10/2014 7:59:22 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Kaslin
Its principled enthusiasm put Republicans back in charge of the House of Representatives and, if the Tea Party hadn't been so stupid in several races, it should have given the GOP control of the Senate.

More GOPe Rovian candidates lost senate races in 2010 than the handful of high profile Tea Party losses the establishment loves to focus on.

19 posted on 04/10/2014 8:30:55 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
I wonder how many of you Karl Rove haters couldn't call him enough the magnificent sob during George W. Bush's Presidency?

You all sound like a bunch of Hyennas

20 posted on 04/10/2014 8:38:38 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but the jerk is making a fortune off of the political system that is destroying my country.

So no, I don't have much use for him.

21 posted on 04/10/2014 8:43:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Kaslin
Castle would have won that seat in a walk.

He is lying there, and he is lying about 2012, when the GOPe lost about 10 Senate races, Akin wasn't tea party and Michael knows that.

22 posted on 04/10/2014 10:04:06 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Kaslin

What Mike is saying can be summarized simply: when conservatives use media to encourage their base of support, the elites in the Republican party screw them in the election, so it must be the fault of those who are enthusiastic enough to get involved.

On the left, when media is used to encourage their base of support, everyone falls in line behind the candidate.

Yep. The evil party and the stupid party.


23 posted on 04/10/2014 10:11:04 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: ansel12
Since when are opinions lies? Actually they lost 2 seats in the Senate. He never said that Akin was a tea party member.

Stop making things up.

24 posted on 04/10/2014 10:36:49 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

When someone works so hard and manipulates his writing to write an article that is a lie, then it is a lie.

Castle would have also lost, and it isn’t merely an “opinion” for Reagan to breezily try to convince you that “”Castle would have won that seat in a walk.””

Nor did he just accidently try to leave you with the impression that Akin was a part of this “tea party” article.

Michael-”In 2012 it was the same dumb story - rousing Tea Party primary victories that thrilled conservative talk-show hosts in May but guaranteed GOP losses in the fall.
Yes, Ted Cruz won big in Texas. But only four of the 16 Senate candidates backed by the Tea Party won in the fall.
It wasn’t pretty in 2012.”

Cruz won, and that has proven to be huge in it’s effect on national politics and the future of conservatism, Palin gave us our only Senate seat pick up when we won Nebraska.

Rove and the GOPe lost ALL of their senate races, about 10 or 11 of them, and they lost a presidential election that republicans couldn’t lose.


25 posted on 04/10/2014 11:03:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Kaslin

Remember Christine O’Donnell in Delaware?

She defeated U.S. Rep. Michael Castle in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat.


And? She did good by getting rid of a liberal Republican.

What a disappointment that Michael Reagan has joined the losers attacking Conservatives. His father was derided by the same GOPe he is now joining.


26 posted on 04/10/2014 6:17:52 PM PDT by RginTN
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