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Mozilla Makes the World a Better Place
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 9, 2014 | Holman Jenkins

Posted on 04/10/2014 8:47:05 AM PDT by billorites

Of all the cheap thrills that life affords, self-righteousness is one of the grossest: A moment on the lips, forever on the hips, with a moral weight for which the only relief is repentance.

The online dating site OkCupid should be feeling the bloat right now. Their site played a role in last week's purge of Mozilla's Brendan Eich, when they hectored visitors to stop using Firefox because Eich donated money to a 2008 California referendum in favor of reserving marriage for a man and woman. Ranted OkCupid co-founder Christian Rudder : "Those who seek to deny love and instead enforce misery, shame and frustration are our enemies, and we wish them nothing but failure."

Uh huh. It will be more of a lasting benefit to society to repudiate OkCupid's marketing stunt than it ever was to hound Mr. Eich from his job. Hampton Catlin, a noted developer who had criticized Mozilla, has already publicly regretted the outcome. Andrew Sullivan, a blogger and pioneering same-sex marriage campaigner, pronounced his disgust with the intolerance shown Mr. Eich.

Barry Diller, whose company owns OkCupid, tells us: "I think it's more than unfortunate—private political action is no one's business, and to make it a public issue is wrong."

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All this is complicated, which the priggish posturing of OkCupid was not. It's a cliché to observe that cowards and bullies are often the same, a wisdom learned from the Andy Griffith Show. And the worst kind of cowardly bully is the one who clothes his aggression toward others in sanctimony—though, until last week, we would have put gay-marriage advocates at the very bottom of any list of issue advocates who exhibit this tendency. Gay marriage has made remarkably swift progress by proposing to increase the world's stock of happiness rather than reduce it.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barrydiller; eich; mozilla; okcupid

1 posted on 04/10/2014 8:47:05 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

The author would do well to remember that Mozilla was unwilling to stand up to the bullying OKCupid idiots, and therefore Mozilla furthered the intentional harm caused by the idiots.

A better place? How is cravenly accepting the wrong judgment an act that makes the world better?


2 posted on 04/10/2014 8:50:33 AM PDT by MortMan (Fired the Fox - Anyone who denies religious liberty in favor of "fairness" is a fascist.)
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To: MortMan

The story just makes my head hurt. It seems to take both sides and comes down to traditionalists deserving it and OKcupid are big meanies.


3 posted on 04/10/2014 8:56:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MortMan

Not sure how Mozilla “denied religious liberty” to Eich. He left of his own accord, forced out by a very vocal homosexual minority. The man wasn’t fired for his religious beliefs. I’ve not read a single article that referenced Eich’s religious beliefs in any way. They all simply stated that Eich donated to the Prop 8 initiative. Any assumptions as to his beliefs were centered solely around that fact.

That being said, I think this hill is not one to die on for a cause. Mozilla is not going anywhere because of this. I feel for Eich and feel that he made a poor decision. He should’ve stayed and fought, but the decision was his alone. Let the homosexuals bellyache. If anything, they are proving to the world that it’s not equality they want, it’s submission to the homosexual agenda; and that’s something for which the majority of Americans will not stand.


4 posted on 04/10/2014 8:58:44 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: MortMan

Did you read more than just the headline?


5 posted on 04/10/2014 8:59:24 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: billorites

Gay marriage is an evil disaster. Wake-up Americans and get over political correctness sickness. Evil is on the Throne and Good is on the Gallows. Time for a correction.


6 posted on 04/10/2014 9:02:13 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: mulligan

“Evil is on the Throne and Good is on the Gallows.” So has it ever been. If we rely on the things of this world we will be disappointed.


7 posted on 04/10/2014 9:11:36 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: rarestia
If anything, they are proving to the world that it’s not equality they want, it’s submission to the homosexual agenda; and that’s something for which the majority of Americans will not stand.

And yet here is Mozilla, a corporate American, not standing up for their former CEO. No - Eich wasn't fired. But the Mozilla board didn't publicly express regret or anger at the circumstance, instead adopting a nonsensical attitude that they stand for both tyranny of the minority and free speech.

Not a hill to die on? That's certain. But it's also not friendly ground for those who espouse freedom. Replacing Mozilla is inexpensive and easy. Apparently the Mozillians forgot that.

8 posted on 04/10/2014 9:14:41 AM PDT by MortMan (Fired the Fox - Anyone who denies religious liberty in favor of "fairness" is a fascist.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Why yes, I did.

And I still object to the fact that Mozilla failed to defend its CEO.

Did you have a point, or are you simply trying to cast doubt to other readers as to whether my opinion is valid or not?


9 posted on 04/10/2014 9:18:08 AM PDT by MortMan (Fired the Fox - Anyone who denies religious liberty in favor of "fairness" is a fascist.)
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To: rarestia
He left of his own accord, forced out by a very vocal homosexual minority.

Own accord or forced? The two cannot coexist.

Oh - and I did not use the phrase "denied religious liberty". I noted that Mozilla failed to defend one of its founders and (then) CEO. In doing so, they furthered the intentional harm caused by OKCupid.

10 posted on 04/10/2014 9:20:56 AM PDT by MortMan (Fired the Fox - Anyone who denies religious liberty in favor of "fairness" is a fascist.)
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To: MortMan

Remember that Mozilla is a non-profit foundation. They’re not a corporation. Leftists sit on the boards of actual corporations around the country but often check their political affiliations at the door. The leadership at Mozilla remained relatively mute. They did not challenge the crybabies in the company but they did not directly capitulate to them either. Whatever went on happened behind closed doors, as it does in every board room in America.

Eich left of his own volition, an act of professional courtesy more than anything else. He knew that his position would blemish his tenure, and he’d prefer to not be the sticky wicket. I applaud him for that. Directly engaging the homosexual lobby is like fighting with a teenager: they can often overpower you with hurtful words, but the end result is that you beat up a child and they’ll use that to shame you.

Let the children have their temper tantrums. We’ll get the last laugh. However, NOT using FF doesn’t hurt Mozilla in the least.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 9:20:57 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: MortMan

Your tagline specifically states “denied religious liberty.” That’s what I was addressing.

And one most certainly can be forced out and voluntarily resign. While the homosexuals and their supporters didn’t have any HR-level rights to fire Eich, the uproar was enough to put Eich in the position to ask, “Is it best to stay and fight or move away?” He made the decision to leave of his own accord. That’s not to say there wasn’t some behind-closed-doors meetings to ask him to leave, but that wasn’t made public.


12 posted on 04/10/2014 9:23:26 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Not using FF is the one avenue I have to express my opinion. A single user will absolutely not have any effect on them. Millions would likely have an effect.

Oh - I see where I actually did say religious liberty - forgive my oversight of my tagline.

We will likely have to agree to disagree on this subject, FRiend. I appreciate the logical discussion, and hope I have risen to the same goal, from your perspective.


13 posted on 04/10/2014 9:27:08 AM PDT by MortMan (Fired the Fox - Anyone who denies religious liberty in favor of "fairness" is a fascist.)
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To: billorites

Neither Mozilla nor OKCupid have made Facebook postings since Eich was forced to resign. Both have been strangely silent.

I wonder if attorneys are doing the talking.


14 posted on 04/10/2014 9:28:29 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: MortMan

Indeed. I appreciate respectful discourse.


15 posted on 04/10/2014 9:29:34 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Mea culpa. As I stated in our simultaneous posts, I overlooked my tagline.

I do disagree that being forced out via the mechanism of a “voluntary” resignation is valid. Resigning under pressure is not the same as a voluntary decision to leave, especially for a CEO that was so new in his position.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 9:30:42 AM PDT by MortMan (Fired the Fox - Anyone who denies religious liberty in favor of "fairness" is a fascist.)
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To: billorites
Ranted OkCupid co-founder Christian Rudder : "Those who seek to deny love and instead enforce misery, shame and frustration are our enemies, and we wish them nothing but failure."

So..."shame" and "pride" are the basic issue here.I guess that would explain the pride that Chris Rudder has in the photos of his rectal syphilis that he's posted on Facebook and Twitter.IIRC he's even boasted that his syphilis is resistant to every antibiotic available to medicine.

17 posted on 04/10/2014 9:33:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: rarestia
However, NOT using FF doesn’t hurt Mozilla in the least.

If enough people stop using FF it will. Mozilla will not be stronger after "forcing" Eich out.

I have removed it from over 44 client systems. What Mozilla did was fascist.

If Eich did not resign, he would almost certainly been removed.

18 posted on 04/10/2014 9:36:12 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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New Mozilla Add-Ons


19 posted on 04/10/2014 9:51:47 AM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: rarestia

I don’t agree with your statement, “Not using FF doesnt hurt Mozilla”.

Mozilla’s income, substantially all, is from Google for using Google as their default search engine.

Can Google track how much traffic comes for FF users? I am guessing they can because they paid Mozilla over $300 million.

I don’t think you have to uninstall FF to show your disapproval. You can probably just switch the default search engine or not use Google at all from FF. Bye Bye revenue stream.


20 posted on 04/10/2014 10:18:37 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: rarestia

leftists NEVER leave politics at the door. Check where those corporations put their charitable giving for one example


21 posted on 04/10/2014 10:41:30 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: rarestia

he had no support on the board - they wanted him gone


22 posted on 04/10/2014 10:42:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

I’m talking about the board room door. Charitable giving is not a corporate responsibility.


23 posted on 04/10/2014 10:45:10 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: joshua c

use duckduckgo instead


24 posted on 04/10/2014 10:45:10 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: rarestia

everything is politics to the left


25 posted on 04/10/2014 10:46:14 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: billorites
Here are some samples of Mozilla's neo-communist logos before Firefox, around 2001 or so.

Their branding has changed, but their ideology remains the same.

26 posted on 04/10/2014 12:31:01 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: Nickname

read their blog
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-steps-down-as-mozilla-ceo/


27 posted on 04/10/2014 2:18:46 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: joshua c

“I don’t think you have to uninstall FF to show your disapproval. You can probably just switch the default search engine or not use Google at all from FF. Bye Bye revenue stream.”

They have similar revenue sharing deals with the other major search engines. It’s just that google is where they make the most money.


28 posted on 04/10/2014 2:20:49 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: cripplecreek
The story just makes my head hurt. It seems to take both sides and comes down to traditionalists deserving it and OKcupid are big meanies.

Well that's a rather cowardly position(s) to take.

29 posted on 04/10/2014 2:21:08 PM PDT by uncitizen (Impeach the Communist Already!)
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