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Run Jeb, Run!
Breitbart.com/Big-Government ^ | 4-10-2014 | Craig Shirley

Posted on 04/10/2014 11:10:25 AM PDT by servo1969

The GOP will never become unified until is decides what it believes. Bush should run if only to force that debate over what Republicans really stand for. Part of the reason Reagan won in 1980 was the field against him was divided. The establishment favored Ambassador Bush or John Connolly or Bob Dole or Howard Baker but Reagan forced the debate and moved the party to the right, where much of it is today.

In 2016 the right of center vote will be divided among Paul, Ted Cruz, and others, just as the conservative vote was divided in 2012, allowing the highbrow Mitt Romney to win the nomination.

If an outsider wins the nomination, establishmentarians can be counted on to hold their noses and be supportive, if only to maintain their proximity to power. But if an insider like Romney wins, it will be interesting to see if they can convince the Tea Party to stick around, as Mitt failed to do in 2012. Failing that, we could see the death of the modern, national GOP. And possibly the eradication of Reaganism as a governing philosophy.

Or, if Reaganism prevails again, as it did in 1980, 84, 88, 94 and 2006, we could see the departure of the neocons from the GOP, to go back to their natural home in the Democratic Party, where they were once call Trotskyites. And see Bushism fade as a valid governing philosophy.

This coming fight for 2016 will be the Gotterdammerung for the GOP--the “dusk of the gods”-- as it will determine what it stands for, probably for a long time. No one can predict the outcome, but like Ali versus Frazier--or any contest over power--it will be utterly fascinating to watch.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; bush; bush2016; gop; jeb; jeb4amnesty; jeb4mexico; jebbush2016; teaparty
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"Fascinating to watch."

This isn't a game, you know. This is the future of America.

1 posted on 04/10/2014 11:10:25 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I think breitbart’s being run by a liberal..


2 posted on 04/10/2014 11:12:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (When fascism comes it will come..with promises of a better world.The jackboots come later..-Shapiro)
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To: servo1969

Yes, Jeb, run to Mexico.


3 posted on 04/10/2014 11:13:17 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

I vote he runs to Venezuela! Mexico’s too close. LOL


4 posted on 04/10/2014 11:14:33 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: servo1969

If Ted Cruz runs, everyone else can forget about winning the nomination; and Hillary Clinton can kiss her chances of winning the election goodbye.


5 posted on 04/10/2014 11:15:45 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: b4its2late

> I vote he runs to Venezuela! Mexico’s too close. LOL

:)

Anywhere, as long as it’s not here.


6 posted on 04/10/2014 11:16:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: servo1969

Bush is what the meek will settle for, not anything we should stand for.


7 posted on 04/10/2014 11:16:58 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Westbrook; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; sickoflibs
Westbrook: "Yes, Jeb, run to Mexico."

POST OF THE WEEK ! ! ! Well done, sir or madam!

8 posted on 04/10/2014 11:18:31 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: servo1969

Ron Paul is not on the right - he is more libertopian


9 posted on 04/10/2014 11:18:31 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: servo1969
....but Reagan forced the debate and moved the party to the right, where much of it is today.

In 2016 the right of center vote will be divided among Paul, Ted Cruz, and others....

 

Hoowee. Much fail here. If this goober thinks the party is still to the right and thinks Pauls is right of center, then he's just freaking nuts.

10 posted on 04/10/2014 11:19:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: servo1969

Run off a CLIFF, Jeb, you dirty scum..!

The Bush family LOVES the Clintons, and the GOP is PART of the ESTABLISHMENT.

I will never vote for an Establishment Republican —I don’t care if he has the HUGEST “R” after his name in the entire world.

They’re scum.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 11:24:53 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: servo1969

Run to the Democrat Party?


12 posted on 04/10/2014 11:26:52 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: servo1969

A fella at work here had an interesting take. Jeb Bush has no intention of running for president, he is simply raising funds during a faux campaign to hand over to whatever candidate later on.

I dunno. It all seems like a game to me now. None of these SOB’s really care for the health and well being of this nation.

What they want is money, prestige, power.


13 posted on 04/10/2014 11:27:00 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servo1969
In 2016 the right of center vote will be divided among Paul, Ted Cruz, and others, just as the conservative vote was divided in 2012, allowing the highbrow Mitt Romney to win the nomination.

Of the final four contenders (Gingrich, Romney, Santorum and Paul), Rick Santorum was the only one who might even remotely be described as conservative.

Gingrich willingly played the Judas goat for Romney in 2012 just as Huckabee played it for McCain in 2008.

14 posted on 04/10/2014 11:27:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: servo1969
The GOP will never become unified until is decides what it believes.

I would put it differently. Nobody's ever going to agree on everything. The key is the GOP deciding what are the one or two most critical issues of today and 2016. Clearly, the greatest political issue overshadowing all other political issues is the size of the unconstitutional $4 trillion federal government which threatens our freedoms, our livelihood, and our very existence and which needs to be cut by 80% (that leaves an $800 billion government, still too big, but its a start). The GOP also needs to go back to school and learn about the FREE MARKET ECONOMY which ran things very well for over a century around here. The free market economy IS THE ALTERNATIVE to Obamacare and big government. No other political issue comes close.

The GOP needs to unify and rally around THAT issue. Let the other political issues go - they're chump change in caparison.

15 posted on 04/10/2014 11:29:45 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: servo1969

And get the hell out of town.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 11:30:11 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: servo1969

Yes, America can only lose!


17 posted on 04/10/2014 11:30:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: servo1969

Breitbart is now being run by a leftist.


18 posted on 04/10/2014 11:31:20 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Would that what you say is true, but I think there are a lot of Republicans who won’t support Cruz. We’veseen him do so much in defense of liberty, and yet, people are still hungering for Rand Paul, for instance.


19 posted on 04/10/2014 11:33:30 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: servo1969

Geez, the Stupid Party just can’ stop.
Everybody read for President Hillary!?

ON the good side, I think Hillary! is more of a crook than a commie.


20 posted on 04/10/2014 11:35:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: nhwingut

Not so certain, am voting Goldwater. Time for hesitation is over.


21 posted on 04/10/2014 11:37:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: GOPsterinMA

> Well done, sir or madam!

Heh. It’s “sir”, but thanks!
:)


22 posted on 04/10/2014 11:37:52 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook
Yes, Jeb, run to Mexico.


That would certainly count as an act of love towards America.
23 posted on 04/10/2014 11:40:44 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: GOPJ

“I think breitbart’s being run by a liberal..”

All standing organizations eventually fall into liberal hands. The Walter Annenberg Foundation was started by a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, but funded Barak Obama and his Bill Ayers’ Chicago school indoctrination scheme. If you look at some of the TV shows they fund you’d know Annenberg would spin in his grave. The problem is liberals see money or power and the work at it until it falls into their hands.


24 posted on 04/10/2014 11:44:25 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

> That would certainly count as an act of love towards America.

LOL! I know I would LOVE that!


25 posted on 04/10/2014 11:44:29 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Little Ray
yep, both crook and commie is that hillary thingy. Should Americans or rather the media vote for her ... they get zer02 and I can assure everyone it shall be a defined time of a huge loss for America and the media.
26 posted on 04/10/2014 11:44:40 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Westbrook

Thank you, man!


27 posted on 04/10/2014 11:45:26 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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jeb same loss. Vote like your children’s future depends on it because it does.


28 posted on 04/10/2014 11:47:15 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: servo1969

Whoever Craig Shirley is, I honestly couldn’t figure out what point he, she or it was trying to make. Seriously bad writing.

The major problem with Jeb Bush is that he is BIG GOVERNMENT. He was actually good as a Florida governor, at which point he seemed to be in favor of small, local government, but he has morphed since he left Florida and is now even supporting Common Core.

Say no to “Big Government” people. They want to take over your lives, live in your head, and make everything you do conditioned on directives from the Federal Government.

No thanks.


29 posted on 04/10/2014 12:04:11 PM PDT by livius
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To: gaijin

“Run off a CLIFF, Jeb, you dirty scum..!”

Now, THAT would be “an act of love”!


30 posted on 04/10/2014 12:10:56 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: servo1969

Jen Bush and Rand Paul can split the illegal alien vote and Cruz can skate to victory. The more libs that run the more likely it is that we can get a conservative nominee. In the last 2 elections there were too many conservative candidates and the Liberal slipped in. I’m hoping the field is filled with half a dozen RINOs and Ted Cruz.

And yes Rand Paul is a RINO.


31 posted on 04/10/2014 12:16:07 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Many of those who support Rand Paul will go to Cruz once they understandhim better. On top of that, I think Sarah Palin will come out strong for Cruz. Whatever chance Paul has will disappear when Sarah endorses Cruz.


32 posted on 04/10/2014 12:20:35 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: servo1969
If an outsider wins the nomination, establishmentarians can be counted on to hold their noses and be supportive, if only to maintain their proximity to power. But if an insider like Romney wins, it will be interesting to see if they can convince the Tea Party to stick around, as Mitt failed to do in 2012. Failing that, we could see the death of the modern, national GOP. And possibly the eradication of Reaganism as a governing philosophy.

The pattern of RINO betrayal of conservative nominees in California and Virginia belies these contentions.

33 posted on 04/10/2014 12:45:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: servo1969
If an outsider wins the nomination, establishmentarians can be counted on to hold their noses and be supportive, if only to maintain their proximity to power.

Hopelessly naive. They would start backbiting and leaking predictions of disaster anonymously, which they preemptively blame on the TEA Party. The full O'Donnell treatment. The GOP-e sees grass roots organizers as a threat to their power. They would much rather lose an election than lose their power.

34 posted on 04/10/2014 1:17:57 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: GOPsterinMA

Hey, I see you’re in MA. I’m in NH.

If you’re in Western MA, you’re not alone. There are times I feel more at home in Western MA than I do in Southern NH.
:)


35 posted on 04/10/2014 1:20:48 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: servo1969

Yes...Run, Run!

Ax a matter a fact, hold the RNC (and for that matter) the DNC convention in Guinea right now! Hurry!


36 posted on 04/10/2014 1:21:44 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: GOPJ
Re: “I think Breitbart’s being run by a liberal..”

I posted on that subject 2 days ago.

According to "The Daily Caller," Breitbart’s CEO voted for Obama in 2008.

I went to my F.R. archives to get the link, but Free Republic appears to have deleted the story and all the Comments!

Is that report false?

“The Daily Caller” broke the story 08 April 2014.

Here's the original link:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/08/breitbart-news-president-and-ceo-voted-for-president-obama/

37 posted on 04/10/2014 1:56:11 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Gen.Blather

We need to come up with better systems. A boycott of ALL non-profit organizations might be a good start.


38 posted on 04/10/2014 1:57:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (When fascism comes it will come..with promises of a better world.The jackboots come later..-Shapiro)
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To: zeestephen

It was deleted? That’s very odd.


39 posted on 04/10/2014 1:58:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (When fascism comes it will come..with promises of a better world.The jackboots come later..-Shapiro)
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To: GOPJ
I think breitbart’s being run by a liberal..

Breitbart has become recently infested with editorials from GOPe types willing to bend over. Andrew would not be amused.

40 posted on 04/10/2014 2:04:25 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Westbrook

Aloha!

I’m originally from central MA; been living in the Boston area for ~20 years.

Southern NH has pretty much been annexed by MA, unfortunately.


41 posted on 04/10/2014 2:10:55 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: servo1969
Or, if Reaganism prevails again, as it did in 1980, 84, 88, 94 and 2006, we could see the departure of the neocons from the GOP, to go back to their natural home in the Democratic Party, where they were once call Trotskyites.

Truly bizarre sentence. Those Trotskyite neocons voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984 (and they weren't Trotskyites and Democrats in the same time period).

42 posted on 04/10/2014 2:11:32 PM PDT by x
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To: GOPJ

Read more of the article. It doesn’t sound like he actually likes Jeb or the Bushes.


43 posted on 04/10/2014 2:16:33 PM PDT by x
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To: GOPsterinMA

Yes, we’ve been overrun here in NH.
:(

I pine for the days of Bill Loeb, Mel Thompson, and the other characters.

I remember when Gov. Mel Thompson had Mass. state troopers arrested for loitering. Mass. gov. Dukakis had sent them north to take down number plates of Mass. citizens buying liquor in NH and radio the plate numbers to troopers on the Mass side of the line where the citizens could be ticketed and harassed by the Mass troopers.

WMUR TV had video of the plain-clothes Mass troopers being escorted with their hands cuffed behind their backs into a court room for a bail hearing.

Delicious.


44 posted on 04/10/2014 2:19:10 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: servo1969
Re: “But if an insider like Romney wins, it will be interesting to see if they can convince the Tea Party to stick around, as Mitt failed to do in 2012.”

This has been the conventional wisdom on the 2012 election for a long time:

Romney lost because millions of white Conservative Republicans stayed home.

I went back and ran the numbers, and, shockingly, that is not true.

In 2012, the number of white voters went DOWN almost 4.5 million compared to 2008.

In spite of that, Romney received 1.2 million MORE white votes than McCain received in 2008!

My conclusion - most of the white folks who stayed home in 2012 voted for Obama in 2008.

Remember - Obama’s total vote in 2012 went DOWN 3.6 million compared to 2008.

Here are the sources I used to compute my numbers:

Roper Center Archives - this break downs how each racial group voted in 2012 and 2008:

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_12.html

Wikipedia - they use the official vote totals certified by Congress:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_us_presidential_election

45 posted on 04/10/2014 2:34:34 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Westbrook

I don’t know any of those names, but they must harken back to the days when NH was about as solid a GOP state as there was.

Yep...

:(


46 posted on 04/10/2014 2:37:18 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPJ
I can't find it.

I did a “Word Search” (Ctrl F) all the way back to 06 April, three whole pages, and I don't see it.

It had more than 20 Comments, so I don't how I can overlook that.

47 posted on 04/10/2014 2:40:48 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: GOPsterinMA

Yeah, Mel Thompson was governor When Jimmuh Carter got elected president.

One of the first things Carter did was to establish the Federal Dept. of Education as a gift to the teachers’ unions that got him elected.

One of the first things the Department of Education did was create the bi-lingual school program. The Dept. of Education would provide funds for bilingual education in the states.

Well, at the time in NH, about 20% of the state was French speaking, and a lot of the Catholic schools had bilingual French/English, and some of them were French only.

Mel Thompson applied for bilingual education funds on behalf of the State of NH. His request was denied because French was not one of the languages qualified for the program by the new Dept. of Education.

As a response, the State of NH did not participate in any Dept. of Education programs until demonRAT governor Hugh Galen took the reigns of government in 1979.


48 posted on 04/10/2014 2:49:00 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Westbrook; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

I thought MA refugees who flee to NH were mostly decent people?


49 posted on 04/10/2014 2:49:37 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

> I thought MA refugees who flee to NH were mostly decent people?

Unfortunately, most of the transplants were communists.


50 posted on 04/10/2014 2:51:48 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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