Skip to comments.Run Jeb, Run!
Posted on 04/10/2014 11:10:25 AM PDT by servo1969
The GOP will never become unified until is decides what it believes. Bush should run if only to force that debate over what Republicans really stand for. Part of the reason Reagan won in 1980 was the field against him was divided. The establishment favored Ambassador Bush or John Connolly or Bob Dole or Howard Baker but Reagan forced the debate and moved the party to the right, where much of it is today.
In 2016 the right of center vote will be divided among Paul, Ted Cruz, and others, just as the conservative vote was divided in 2012, allowing the highbrow Mitt Romney to win the nomination.
If an outsider wins the nomination, establishmentarians can be counted on to hold their noses and be supportive, if only to maintain their proximity to power. But if an insider like Romney wins, it will be interesting to see if they can convince the Tea Party to stick around, as Mitt failed to do in 2012. Failing that, we could see the death of the modern, national GOP. And possibly the eradication of Reaganism as a governing philosophy.
Or, if Reaganism prevails again, as it did in 1980, 84, 88, 94 and 2006, we could see the departure of the neocons from the GOP, to go back to their natural home in the Democratic Party, where they were once call Trotskyites. And see Bushism fade as a valid governing philosophy.
This coming fight for 2016 will be the Gotterdammerung for the GOP--the dusk of the gods-- as it will determine what it stands for, probably for a long time. No one can predict the outcome, but like Ali versus Frazier--or any contest over power--it will be utterly fascinating to watch.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
This isn't a game, you know. This is the future of America.
I think breitbart’s being run by a liberal..
Yes, Jeb, run to Mexico.
I vote he runs to Venezuela! Mexico’s too close. LOL
If Ted Cruz runs, everyone else can forget about winning the nomination; and Hillary Clinton can kiss her chances of winning the election goodbye.
> I vote he runs to Venezuela! Mexicos too close. LOL
Anywhere, as long as it’s not here.
Bush is what the meek will settle for, not anything we should stand for.
POST OF THE WEEK ! ! ! Well done, sir or madam!
Ron Paul is not on the right - he is more libertopian
In 2016 the right of center vote will be divided among Paul, Ted Cruz, and others....
Hoowee. Much fail here. If this goober thinks the party is still to the right and thinks Pauls is right of center, then he's just freaking nuts.
Run off a CLIFF, Jeb, you dirty scum..!
The Bush family LOVES the Clintons, and the GOP is PART of the ESTABLISHMENT.
I will never vote for an Establishment Republican —I don’t care if he has the HUGEST “R” after his name in the entire world.
Run to the Democrat Party?
A fella at work here had an interesting take. Jeb Bush has no intention of running for president, he is simply raising funds during a faux campaign to hand over to whatever candidate later on.
I dunno. It all seems like a game to me now. None of these SOB’s really care for the health and well being of this nation.
What they want is money, prestige, power.
Of the final four contenders (Gingrich, Romney, Santorum and Paul), Rick Santorum was the only one who might even remotely be described as conservative.
Gingrich willingly played the Judas goat for Romney in 2012 just as Huckabee played it for McCain in 2008.
I would put it differently. Nobody's ever going to agree on everything. The key is the GOP deciding what are the one or two most critical issues of today and 2016. Clearly, the greatest political issue overshadowing all other political issues is the size of the unconstitutional $4 trillion federal government which threatens our freedoms, our livelihood, and our very existence and which needs to be cut by 80% (that leaves an $800 billion government, still too big, but its a start). The GOP also needs to go back to school and learn about the FREE MARKET ECONOMY which ran things very well for over a century around here. The free market economy IS THE ALTERNATIVE to Obamacare and big government. No other political issue comes close.
The GOP needs to unify and rally around THAT issue. Let the other political issues go - they're chump change in caparison.
And get the hell out of town.
Yes, America can only lose!
Breitbart is now being run by a leftist.
Would that what you say is true, but I think there are a lot of Republicans who won’t support Cruz. We’veseen him do so much in defense of liberty, and yet, people are still hungering for Rand Paul, for instance.
Geez, the Stupid Party just can’ stop.
Everybody read for President Hillary!?
ON the good side, I think Hillary! is more of a crook than a commie.
Not so certain, am voting Goldwater. Time for hesitation is over.
> Well done, sir or madam!
Heh. It’s “sir”, but thanks!
“I think breitbarts being run by a liberal..”
All standing organizations eventually fall into liberal hands. The Walter Annenberg Foundation was started by a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, but funded Barak Obama and his Bill Ayers’ Chicago school indoctrination scheme. If you look at some of the TV shows they fund you’d know Annenberg would spin in his grave. The problem is liberals see money or power and the work at it until it falls into their hands.
> That would certainly count as an act of love towards America.
LOL! I know I would LOVE that!
Thank you, man!
jeb same loss. Vote like your children’s future depends on it because it does.
Whoever Craig Shirley is, I honestly couldn’t figure out what point he, she or it was trying to make. Seriously bad writing.
The major problem with Jeb Bush is that he is BIG GOVERNMENT. He was actually good as a Florida governor, at which point he seemed to be in favor of small, local government, but he has morphed since he left Florida and is now even supporting Common Core.
Say no to “Big Government” people. They want to take over your lives, live in your head, and make everything you do conditioned on directives from the Federal Government.
“Run off a CLIFF, Jeb, you dirty scum..!”
Now, THAT would be “an act of love”!
Jen Bush and Rand Paul can split the illegal alien vote and Cruz can skate to victory. The more libs that run the more likely it is that we can get a conservative nominee. In the last 2 elections there were too many conservative candidates and the Liberal slipped in. I’m hoping the field is filled with half a dozen RINOs and Ted Cruz.
And yes Rand Paul is a RINO.
Many of those who support Rand Paul will go to Cruz once they understandhim better. On top of that, I think Sarah Palin will come out strong for Cruz. Whatever chance Paul has will disappear when Sarah endorses Cruz.
The pattern of RINO betrayal of conservative nominees in California and Virginia belies these contentions.
Hopelessly naive. They would start backbiting and leaking predictions of disaster anonymously, which they preemptively blame on the TEA Party. The full O'Donnell treatment. The GOP-e sees grass roots organizers as a threat to their power. They would much rather lose an election than lose their power.
Hey, I see you’re in MA. I’m in NH.
If you’re in Western MA, you’re not alone. There are times I feel more at home in Western MA than I do in Southern NH.
Ax a matter a fact, hold the RNC (and for that matter) the DNC convention in Guinea right now! Hurry!
I posted on that subject 2 days ago.
According to "The Daily Caller," Breitbart’s CEO voted for Obama in 2008.
I went to my F.R. archives to get the link, but Free Republic appears to have deleted the story and all the Comments!
Is that report false?
“The Daily Caller” broke the story 08 April 2014.
Here's the original link:
We need to come up with better systems. A boycott of ALL non-profit organizations might be a good start.
It was deleted? That’s very odd.
Breitbart has become recently infested with editorials from GOPe types willing to bend over. Andrew would not be amused.
I’m originally from central MA; been living in the Boston area for ~20 years.
Southern NH has pretty much been annexed by MA, unfortunately.
Truly bizarre sentence. Those Trotskyite neocons voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984 (and they weren't Trotskyites and Democrats in the same time period).
Read more of the article. It doesn’t sound like he actually likes Jeb or the Bushes.
Yes, we’ve been overrun here in NH.
I pine for the days of Bill Loeb, Mel Thompson, and the other characters.
I remember when Gov. Mel Thompson had Mass. state troopers arrested for loitering. Mass. gov. Dukakis had sent them north to take down number plates of Mass. citizens buying liquor in NH and radio the plate numbers to troopers on the Mass side of the line where the citizens could be ticketed and harassed by the Mass troopers.
WMUR TV had video of the plain-clothes Mass troopers being escorted with their hands cuffed behind their backs into a court room for a bail hearing.
This has been the conventional wisdom on the 2012 election for a long time:
Romney lost because millions of white Conservative Republicans stayed home.
I went back and ran the numbers, and, shockingly, that is not true.
In 2012, the number of white voters went DOWN almost 4.5 million compared to 2008.
In spite of that, Romney received 1.2 million MORE white votes than McCain received in 2008!
My conclusion - most of the white folks who stayed home in 2012 voted for Obama in 2008.
Remember - Obama’s total vote in 2012 went DOWN 3.6 million compared to 2008.
Here are the sources I used to compute my numbers:
Roper Center Archives - this break downs how each racial group voted in 2012 and 2008:
Wikipedia - they use the official vote totals certified by Congress:
I don’t know any of those names, but they must harken back to the days when NH was about as solid a GOP state as there was.
I did a “Word Search” (Ctrl F) all the way back to 06 April, three whole pages, and I don't see it.
It had more than 20 Comments, so I don't how I can overlook that.
Yeah, Mel Thompson was governor When Jimmuh Carter got elected president.
One of the first things Carter did was to establish the Federal Dept. of Education as a gift to the teachers’ unions that got him elected.
One of the first things the Department of Education did was create the bi-lingual school program. The Dept. of Education would provide funds for bilingual education in the states.
Well, at the time in NH, about 20% of the state was French speaking, and a lot of the Catholic schools had bilingual French/English, and some of them were French only.
Mel Thompson applied for bilingual education funds on behalf of the State of NH. His request was denied because French was not one of the languages qualified for the program by the new Dept. of Education.
As a response, the State of NH did not participate in any Dept. of Education programs until demonRAT governor Hugh Galen took the reigns of government in 1979.
I thought MA refugees who flee to NH were mostly decent people?
> I thought MA refugees who flee to NH were mostly decent people?
Unfortunately, most of the transplants were communists.