Skip to comments.So Close: House Rejects Obama Budget 413-2
Posted on 04/10/2014 2:56:31 PM PDT by Kaslin
UPDATE- The House has passed the Ryan budget 219-205. The 'Path to Prosperity' received 217 more votes than the president's budget. You can read the GOP's plan here. My summary is here.
The House on Wednesday handily rejected a GOP budget alternative based on President Obama's 2015 spending blueprint. It was defeated 2-413, following a pattern seen in recent years in House votes to overwhelmingly reject Obama's budget proposals. Today's vote is just slightly better than the unanimous vote against Obama's budget in 2012. The two "yes" votes came from Reps. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) and Jim Moran (D-Va.), who is retiring...An Obama administration official agreed with House Democrats that the GOP substitute was not an accurate reflection of Obama's budget plan. "The Administration would welcome votes on the actual provisions of President's Budget," said Office of Management and Budget spokesman Steve Posner. "That is not what this amendment represents, and a vote for or against this amendment is not a vote for or against the President's policies." But Republicans rejected these complaints, and defended the idea of consider Obama's latest proposal as a way to let the House consider all budget options. "Any time the president of the United States takes the time to produce a budget, it merits a debate," Mulvaney said. "I think it's a valid discussion we should have every year." Mulvaney also offered the president's budget as a mock alternative in 2012, which was rejected 0-414. Republicans could not offer it last year because the president's budget was submitted late instead, Mulvaney tried to offer a blank sheet of paper to represent Obama's budget, but it was not made in order.
I must have missed Mulvaney's blank page budget gambit last year, which deserves points for being amusing and for highlighting the fact that the Obama White House can't be bothered to meet statutory budget deadlines. He might try the same thing as a proxy for Senate Democrats' FY 2015 proposal, which does not and will not exist. Harry Reid's caucus has declined to participate in the legally-mandated budgeting process for the fourth time in five years. The White House and House Democrats can claim that the GOP's version of Obama's budget wasn't an "accurate reflection" of the original document, but it essentially lifted Obama's entire vision and dropped it into legislative language. In reality, all but two Democrats -- one of whom was this guy -- chose not to attach themselves to the president's plan, which calls for the following:
President Obama's 2015 Budget Proposal:
(1) Never balances. Ever.
(2) Increases spending, ballooning the national debt by $8.3 trillion over the budget window -- $1 trillion beyond than the unsustainable current trajectory. Under Obama's plan, the red ink on the above chart would be steeper, sooner.
(3) Raises taxes by an additional $1.8 trillion (and again, never balances).
(4) Makes no attempt at reforming the gathering tidal wave of unfunded promises that Obama has admitted in the past are driving a long-term debt crisis.
To their credit, and unlike their Senate colleagues, House Democrats will offer an alternative budget of their own. But Phil Kerpen notices that it's missing something:
The section on Obamacare ends with this defiant statement of policy: the law of the land should support making affordable health care coverage available to every American family, and therefore the Affordable Care Act should not be repealed. And thats it. Dont repeal it. Dont acknowledge any of the problems. Dont do anything to help any of the people whose lives have been thrown into disarray. And certainly dont do anything to fix it. It couldnt be clearer: members who vote for this budget think Obamacare does not need to be fixed. Indeed its hard to read the Democratic budget as anything but a celebration of Obamacare exactly as it is and that adds insult to the many Americans who have been injured by the law.
In other words, House Democrats' budget reflects the opinion of those six percent of Americans who believe Obamacare is working well as is. For all their public assurances about "fixing Obamacare" (which didn't pay dividends for them in Florida), Democrats oppose one of the most popular fixes to the law, their party chairwoman can't think of a single change she'd make, and their governing document offers zero fixes. Seems legit.
So who were the two morons?
The two “yes” votes came from Reps. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) and Jim Moran (D-Va.), who is retiring
Last time I saw a mouth that big it had a hook in it....
Moran from Virginia Marci Kaptur of Ohio, or as reader Steve 1579 wrote: Some turd named Moran from Virginia, and turdette named Marci Kaptur of Ohio
So why would the House rats not support their anointed one - especially given that his budget had no chance of passage anyway?
You just can’t make this stuff up.
“Last time I saw a mouth that big it had a hook in it.... “
Kaptur the Carp!
Sadly, he’s my turd.
Name misspelled on purpose
Well he won’t be long, since he is retiring.
Yeah, but I’m in deep blue Northern Virginia. He’ll likely be replaced by another turd...sigh
Perhaps the House DemRATS were unhappy with it because the Obama’s budget was too “conservative” for them?
Yeah, but you should see the budget they passed. :(
If I understand it correctly, the Ryan budget is just another charade that promises to cut spending sometime in the future—when, of course, that future congress will decide, well, we won’t cut it after all.
So, it’s nice that they rejected Obama’s budget, but won’t make much practical difference. And of course, Obama will refuse to give an inch, and eventually congress will cave again. At least, that’s been the history so far.
I just assumed that Obama’s dead aunt voted twice.
Kaptur is kept in office by Toledo, Ohio democrats. The area is a bastion of Obamabots who get their news from MSNBC and CNN. People I know who’ve moved away from there remain strongly democrats. Attempting to reason with some of them has earned me witnessing their total meltdown when confronted with facts.
From the article:
“An Obama administration official agreed with House Democrats that the GOP substitute was not an accurate reflection of Obama’s budget plan.”
I have no idea who the official AGREED with.
What is it about liberal dems. that they’re so frigging goofy looking?
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Whoops. sorry-—mistook it for a blowhole. Apologys to Nemo.
One tool and a moron.
IMHO, any budget that depends on spending beyond the coming fiscal year is a bunch of BS. The current Congress cannot bind future Congresses. Projections of future tax income and spending have been inaccurate year after year. Forces we have no control over can also influence what happens in coming years.
All this “ten year” stuff is smoke and mirrors and cannot, at all, be rooted in reality.
You’d think these Congress people would have the decency to not insult our intelligence every year with their hopes and wishes.
Let’s get real!
Moron is retiring?
Yet the very same Democrats who vote for this budget will be back home this Fall assuring their constituents that they really don't support ObamaCare as it is. Liars one and all.
Those are the first two ‘yes’ votes that any Obama budget proposal has received in over 5 years.
All this ten year stuff is smoke and mirrors...
Drives me crazy, too!
They and the CBO know that the next Congress can change the budget; so why do a ten-year projection?
the 24/7 wall-to-wall coverage on CNN and the major TV networks if a budget submitted by the 'evil Bush' ever went down in flames 413-2 ....
With 0bama the occupier-in-chief? Crickets ...
Only 2 dems voted for it?
I wonder if this is part of the dems breaking ties with Obama because otherwise they’d be slaughtered in November.
And Obama’s budget director is his nominee for Secretary of HHS! Go figure.