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So Close: House Rejects Obama Budget 413-2
Townhall.com ^ | April 10, 2014 | Guy Benson

Posted on 04/10/2014 2:56:31 PM PDT by Kaslin

UPDATE- The House has passed the Ryan budget 219-205. The 'Path to Prosperity' received 217 more votes than the president's budget. You can read the GOP's plan here. My summary is here.

*** Original Post ***

Last we checked in on the budget battle in DC, our post-partisan president was smirkingly denouncing House Republicans' fiscal blueprint as a "stink burger" and "meanwich." The wit! The erudition! With Congress' lower chamber poised to pass Paul Ryan's 'Path to Prosperity' -- which reduces the rate of federal spending increases, reforms Medicare and balances within ten years -- the House first took up President Obama's budget proposal. Might this qualify as a "stink burger?"


The House on Wednesday handily rejected a GOP budget alternative based on President Obama's 2015 spending blueprint. It was defeated 2-413, following a pattern seen in recent years in House votes to overwhelmingly reject Obama's budget proposals. Today's vote is just slightly better than the unanimous vote against Obama's budget in 2012. The two "yes" votes came from Reps. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) and Jim Moran (D-Va.), who is retiring...An Obama administration official agreed with House Democrats that the GOP substitute was not an accurate reflection of Obama's budget plan. "The Administration would welcome votes on the actual provisions of President's Budget," said Office of Management and Budget spokesman Steve Posner. "That is not what this amendment represents, and a vote for or against this amendment is not a vote for or against the President's policies." But Republicans rejected these complaints, and defended the idea of consider Obama's latest proposal as a way to let the House consider all budget options. "Any time the president of the United States takes the time to produce a budget, it merits a debate," Mulvaney said. "I think it's a valid discussion we should have every year." Mulvaney also offered the president's budget as a mock alternative in 2012, which was rejected 0-414. Republicans could not offer it last year because the president's budget was submitted late — instead, Mulvaney tried to offer a blank sheet of paper to represent Obama's budget, but it was not made in order.

I must have missed Mulvaney's blank page budget gambit last year, which deserves points for being amusing and for highlighting the fact that the Obama White House can't be bothered to meet statutory budget deadlines. He might try the same thing as a proxy for Senate Democrats' FY 2015 proposal, which does not and will not exist. Harry Reid's caucus has declined to participate in the legally-mandated budgeting process for the fourth time in five years. The White House and House Democrats can claim that the GOP's version of Obama's budget wasn't an "accurate reflection" of the original document, but it essentially lifted Obama's entire vision and dropped it into legislative language. In reality, all but two Democrats -- one of whom was this guy -- chose not to attach themselves to the president's plan, which calls for the following:

President Obama's 2015 Budget Proposal:

(1) Never balances. Ever.

(2) Increases spending, ballooning the national debt by $8.3 trillion over the budget window -- $1 trillion beyond than the unsustainable current trajectory. Under Obama's plan, the red ink on the above chart would be steeper, sooner.

(3) Raises taxes by an additional $1.8 trillion (and again, never balances).

(4) Makes no attempt at reforming the gathering tidal wave of unfunded promises that Obama has admitted in the past are driving a long-term debt crisis.


To their credit, and unlike their Senate colleagues, House Democrats will offer an alternative budget of their own. But Phil Kerpen notices that it's missing something:

The section on Obamacare ends with this defiant statement of policy: “the law of the land should support making affordable health care coverage available to every American family, and therefore the Affordable Care Act should not be repealed.” And that’s it. Don’t repeal it. Don’t acknowledge any of the problems. Don’t do anything to help any of the people whose lives have been thrown into disarray. And certainly don’t do anything to “fix it.” It couldn’t be clearer: members who vote for this budget think Obamacare does not need to be fixed. Indeed it’s hard to read the Democratic budget as anything but a celebration of Obamacare exactly as it is – and that adds insult to the many Americans who have been injured by the law.


In other words, House Democrats' budget reflects the opinion of those six percent of Americans who believe Obamacare is working well as is. For all their public assurances about "fixing Obamacare" (which didn't pay dividends for them in Florida), Democrats oppose one of the most popular fixes to the law, their party chairwoman can't think of a single change she'd make, and their governing document offers zero fixes. Seems legit.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 2015budget; barack0bama; deficitsanddebt; paulryan

1 posted on 04/10/2014 2:56:31 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

So who were the two morons?


2 posted on 04/10/2014 3:02:42 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

The two “yes” votes came from Reps. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) and Jim Moran (D-Va.), who is retiring


3 posted on 04/10/2014 3:03:45 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Last time I saw a mouth that big it had a hook in it....

4 posted on 04/10/2014 3:05:06 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin

Bi-partisan. LOL!!


5 posted on 04/10/2014 3:06:26 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Moran from Virginia Marci Kaptur of Ohio, or as reader Steve 1579 wrote: Some turd named Moran from Virginia, and turdette named Marci Kaptur of Ohio


6 posted on 04/10/2014 3:06:27 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

So why would the House rats not support their anointed one - especially given that his budget had no chance of passage anyway?


7 posted on 04/10/2014 3:06:43 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: Kaslin

You just can’t make this stuff up.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 3:08:02 PM PDT by ncfool (Taking back America 2016.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Last time I saw a mouth that big it had a hook in it.... “

Kaptur the Carp!


9 posted on 04/10/2014 3:09:03 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kaslin

Sadly, he’s my turd.


10 posted on 04/10/2014 3:09:55 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
That Moron from VA voted yes because he thinks the senators $174,000 isn't enough

Name misspelled on purpose

11 posted on 04/10/2014 3:10:52 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: COBOL2Java

Well he won’t be long, since he is retiring.


12 posted on 04/10/2014 3:12:21 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, but I’m in deep blue Northern Virginia. He’ll likely be replaced by another turd...sigh


13 posted on 04/10/2014 3:21:04 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps the House DemRATS were unhappy with it because the Obama’s budget was too “conservative” for them?


14 posted on 04/10/2014 3:21:12 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, but you should see the budget they passed. :(


15 posted on 04/10/2014 3:28:57 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Kaslin

If I understand it correctly, the Ryan budget is just another charade that promises to cut spending sometime in the future—when, of course, that future congress will decide, well, we won’t cut it after all.

So, it’s nice that they rejected Obama’s budget, but won’t make much practical difference. And of course, Obama will refuse to give an inch, and eventually congress will cave again. At least, that’s been the history so far.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 3:31:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I just assumed that Obama’s dead aunt voted twice.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 3:48:50 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SoFloFreeper

Kaptur is kept in office by Toledo, Ohio democrats. The area is a bastion of Obamabots who get their news from MSNBC and CNN. People I know who’ve moved away from there remain strongly democrats. Attempting to reason with some of them has earned me witnessing their total meltdown when confronted with facts.


18 posted on 04/10/2014 3:57:38 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: rhinohunter

From the article:

“An Obama administration official agreed with House Democrats that the GOP substitute was not an accurate reflection of Obama’s budget plan.”

I have no idea who the official AGREED with.


19 posted on 04/10/2014 4:18:08 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: SoFloFreeper

What is it about liberal dems. that they’re so frigging goofy looking?


20 posted on 04/10/2014 4:23:25 PM PDT by mothball
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21 posted on 04/10/2014 4:26:28 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Whoops. sorry-—mistook it for a blowhole. Apologys to Nemo.


22 posted on 04/10/2014 5:15:33 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SoFloFreeper

One tool and a moron.


23 posted on 04/10/2014 5:26:09 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Kaslin

IMHO, any budget that depends on spending beyond the coming fiscal year is a bunch of BS. The current Congress cannot bind future Congresses. Projections of future tax income and spending have been inaccurate year after year. Forces we have no control over can also influence what happens in coming years.

All this “ten year” stuff is smoke and mirrors and cannot, at all, be rooted in reality.

You’d think these Congress people would have the decency to not insult our intelligence every year with their hopes and wishes.

Let’s get real!


24 posted on 04/10/2014 6:15:13 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: Kaslin

Moron is retiring?


25 posted on 04/10/2014 7:38:37 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: Kaslin
Indeed it’s hard to read the Democratic budget as anything but a celebration of Obamacare exactly as it is

Yet the very same Democrats who vote for this budget will be back home this Fall assuring their constituents that they really don't support ObamaCare as it is. Liars one and all.

26 posted on 04/10/2014 8:01:45 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Those are the first two ‘yes’ votes that any Obama budget proposal has received in over 5 years.


27 posted on 04/10/2014 8:03:51 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: upchuck

All this “ten year” stuff is smoke and mirrors...
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Drives me crazy, too!

They and the CBO know that the next Congress can change the budget; so why do a ten-year projection?


28 posted on 04/10/2014 11:36:59 PM PDT by octex
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To: Kaslin













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- Moochelle Obama













29 posted on 04/10/2014 11:49:08 PM PDT by devolve (- Tell VLADIMER after my ELECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY -- I need more SPACE - BHO Jr -)
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To: Kaslin
Imagine, if you will ......

the 24/7 wall-to-wall coverage on CNN and the major TV networks if a budget submitted by the 'evil Bush' ever went down in flames 413-2 ....

With 0bama the occupier-in-chief? Crickets ...

30 posted on 04/11/2014 8:25:51 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Kaslin

Only 2 dems voted for it?

I wonder if this is part of the dems breaking ties with Obama because otherwise they’d be slaughtered in November.


31 posted on 04/11/2014 2:19:48 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

And Obama’s budget director is his nominee for Secretary of HHS! Go figure.


32 posted on 04/12/2014 1:49:36 PM PDT by matchgirl (An Ambassador is dead and Al Qaeda is alive.)
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