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Students protest Confederate flag ban at Waldron high school
KHBS ^ | 4/9/2014

Posted on 04/10/2014 6:31:06 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

A controversy in Waldron led to a parade of Confederate flags Tuesday evening to protest a ban implemented by officials at Waldron High School.

Students who displayed the Confederate flag flying on the back of their pickup trucks were asked by school officials to remove them while on school property.

The superintendent, Gary Wayman, said there have been complaints and some consider the display "offensive." Wayman said the students were flying the Confederate flags from the back of poles attached to their trucks.

There were mixed feelings among students and others who gathered Tuesday to fly a parade of flags in protest.

Dakota Sims, an organizer of the parade in response to the ban, told 40/29 News "It's America, this is a free state. Like that flag represents freedom. Just like that American flag represents freedom. People died for both of them. Why not fly both of them?"

Another student said he supports his friends that are protesting, but felt that the flags could send the wrong message.

A Facebook page called "Scott County 746" was created with posts from supporters and others in the community.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arkansas
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1 posted on 04/10/2014 6:31:06 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Good for these youngsters.

Fascism must be resisted at all levels.


2 posted on 04/10/2014 6:33:24 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Altura Ct.

This is America!

We should have the freedom to display the Confederate Battle Flag.


3 posted on 04/10/2014 6:37:48 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: x1stcav

How about the rights of property owners (the school district) to impose limits on what can be done on their property?

If you want to enjoy the privilege of parking in the school parking lot you have to follow their rules, buy their sticker, etc.


4 posted on 04/10/2014 6:38:21 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: x1stcav

Fly the Bonnie Blue instead....the dumbass administrators won’t even know what it is.


5 posted on 04/10/2014 6:38:31 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: x1stcav

Now they need to regain the right to have guns in the pickup rear window gun-racks like when I wuz a kid.


6 posted on 04/10/2014 6:40:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: lightman

Nonsense.


7 posted on 04/10/2014 6:40:27 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: x1stcav

They will allow a Mexican flag in schools but not a confederate flag. That’s the “new” america. Sad.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 6:40:52 PM PDT by CountryClassSF
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To: Ouderkirk

You got that right. Educrats are among the most ignorant.


9 posted on 04/10/2014 6:41:05 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: lightman

Dude. Public actors do not have property rights and they certainly can not limit speech they do not like in a public parking lot. Its a constitution thing.


10 posted on 04/10/2014 6:42:19 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: x1stcav

I forgot to add...you’re an idiot. That school property doesn’t belong to the educrats. It’s everyone’s property.

Since when do the educrats get to negate any of the Ammendments?


11 posted on 04/10/2014 6:43:04 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: lightman
Many school districts don't like Bibles either.

Maybe you should burn yours, just to be on the "correct" side of things.

12 posted on 04/10/2014 6:45:56 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: lightman

I forgot to add...you’re an idiot. That school property doesn’t belong to the educrats. It’s everyone’s property.

Since when do the educrats get to negate any of the Ammendments?


13 posted on 04/10/2014 6:46:20 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: lightman
If you want to enjoy the privilege of parking in the school parking lot you have to follow their rules, buy their sticker, etc.

I wonder if their school policy would prohibit Muzzie flags, Malcolm X hats and free Mumia shirts also? Unless I see otherwise, I will assume those things are OK.

14 posted on 04/10/2014 7:03:01 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: lightman
"How about the rights of property owners (the school district) to impose limits on what can be done on their property?"

By "property owners", do you mean We the People...?

15 posted on 04/10/2014 7:08:17 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: lightman

“If you want to enjoy the privilege of parking in the school parking lot you have to follow their rules, buy their sticker, etc.”

Unless it’s a private school, the parking lot is owned by a public corporation.

And ALL political speech is protected speech.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 7:11:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: CountryClassSF
Not "sad"...it's an outrage. Linguini-spined slaves who let things happen to them are "saddened". Sovereign American citizens get outraged, then do something about it.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

17 posted on 04/10/2014 7:14:43 PM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: lightman

When the property owner is the government, its property rights are constrained by the Constitution — in this case the 1st and 14th Amendments — and relevant case law. Flags on trucks in the parking lot do are, under relevant case law, symbolic speech, and do not disrupt education, again a standard set by relevant case law for schools, as agencies of the government, to restrict student speech.

Nope. The Confederate battle flag can stay, unless the district can find a judge willing to rule against precedents from SCOTUS and pursue appeals including getting SCOTUS to overturn the precedents.


18 posted on 04/10/2014 7:17:50 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: tcrlaf

No argument that the Confederate Battle Flag is political and hence the most protected of all speech.

Students are required to attend school through compulsory attendance laws.

It is not required that they drive to school, nor that the school provide parking lots.

They can ride the bus—yeah, it’s uncool. But they can.

And bus riding is also a privilege. They can walk.


19 posted on 04/10/2014 7:31:10 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Ouderkirk
Hey! Innit that the Betsy Ross flag?

/common core

20 posted on 04/10/2014 7:36:15 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: Flycatcher

They should go to Virginia and get up in the faces of some state troopers.

They have the battle flag on their uniform state patch.


21 posted on 04/10/2014 7:38:23 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: lightman
Is everything a 'privilege' to you? Government sympathy much?

Free speech and guns are as close to we get to absolutes in this society. "Congress shall make no law" and "shall not be infringed." These educrats have no right to proscribe free speech.

22 posted on 04/10/2014 7:41:43 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Agreed. Were this some islamist or rainbow flag there’d be no problem.


23 posted on 04/10/2014 7:45:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Salamander

I’d pay to see that!


24 posted on 04/10/2014 7:47:50 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: lightman

The “school district” owns nothing. They are the appointed stewards of the school. The kids attending and their parents and other citizens of that district own the school and are the PROPERTY OWNERS with property rights.


25 posted on 04/10/2014 7:52:49 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Ha! Banning ANYTHING is the perfect way to get teenagers to do it. I’ll bet most of the protesters had to go out and buy flags to fly after the ban.


26 posted on 04/10/2014 7:57:56 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: lightman

Wait a second. I think the public own the buses too.


27 posted on 04/10/2014 8:00:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: Altura Ct.

So if someone consider perverts offensive will you ask them to leave school?
Tired of the offended people. Try growing up...........


28 posted on 04/10/2014 8:18:18 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Altura Ct.

“Like that flag represents freedom” Dumbest thing I have ever read


29 posted on 04/10/2014 8:50:12 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: lightman

Oops, you forgot it’s Public Property?


30 posted on 04/10/2014 8:59:00 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: lightman

I would argue that the taxpayers are the property owners.


31 posted on 04/10/2014 9:01:59 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Salamander

Two states where you don’t mess with Troopers, Virginia and Texas.


32 posted on 04/10/2014 9:02:07 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Fly the original Stars and Bars. It’s been the Georgia state flag for over a decade & Julian Bond hasn’t picked up on it yet & he’s self declared smarter than all those ignorant racist crackers!


33 posted on 04/10/2014 9:04:41 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: lightman
How about the rights of property owners (the school district) to impose limits on what can be done on their property?

Have you always been an idiot or is this just a passing phase?

The educators don't own the school property, the taxpayers own it. You and I own it. These idiots work for you. We own them. It's time we started acting like it instead of surrendering your Liberty to their political agenda.

That parking lot belongs to the students as much as it does to the faculty.

Now get off this conservative forum, you big statist dummy!

34 posted on 04/10/2014 9:48:22 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

well stated my neener friend


35 posted on 04/11/2014 3:48:54 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Altura Ct.

Public school’s officials are offensive. The Rebel flag is not racist, it is about states rights.


36 posted on 04/11/2014 6:03:57 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: lightman

The school property is owned by the school board, which is voted by us the people. The board is not the rulers of students parents are.


37 posted on 04/11/2014 6:08:55 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: lightman; P-Marlowe

Just out of curiosity, what’s the odds that a kid from Waldron, Arkansas, USA has ancestors who were on the confederate side during the Civil War?

Do you think descendants of WWI and WWII German soldiers should be permitted to honor their dead at ceremonies in their graveyards?


38 posted on 04/11/2014 6:25:46 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Just out of curiosity, what’s the odds that a kid from Waldron, Arkansas, USA has ancestors who were on the confederate side during the Civil War?

And who fought honorably out of a sense of duty and honor and country?

FWIW white employees of northern industrialists were often worse off than slaves in the south. The industrialists could literally work a man to death and then just hire a replacement. If a slave owner worked his slave to death he was going to have to pay a lot of money for a replacement. Workers comp laws didn't come into effect until the 20th century.

These white southern boys who fought and died under the Confederate battle flag were fighting for their honor and for their liberty. They may have been on the "wrong side of history" but for the most part they were not slave owners nor did they hope to become slave owners. They were honorable and brave men. But today even the honorable heroes of the South are treated as pariahs and any hint of Southern Pride now carries with it the taint of racism. The fact of the matter is that you can be a proud black man or hispanic man, or oriental man or native american, but you can't be a proud white man. If you are white, then you are required to hang your head in shame and apologize for being a member of a race that is on the wrong side of history.

39 posted on 04/11/2014 7:06:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe
They were honorable and brave men. But today even the honorable heroes of the South are treated as pariahs and any hint of Southern Pride now carries with it the taint of racism.

Thomas Jefferson is such a dilemma for liberals. They want to elevate him for their (wrong) take on his rejection of religion, they need to pillory him for being a slave owner (sally whatshername), and they want to both love him and hate him for the revolution...love because of the word revolution...hate because of the word freedom.

Southern White Slave Owner Freedom Monger!

40 posted on 04/11/2014 7:14:09 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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bfl


41 posted on 04/11/2014 7:23:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The non-sequiturs are a target-rich environment here. I’ll have to decide which one to pick ;’)


42 posted on 04/11/2014 7:37:56 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: xzins

I grew up in a city where one of the local high schools had the Rebel mascot and they flew the confederate battle flag at their sports events. Their mascot wore the confederate enlisted uniform and carried a replica musket.

I just checked and apparently the school mascot is still the Rebel. I don’t know if they still fly the stars and bars at their sporting events or if their mascot still wears the confederate uniform. I would clearly be surprised if they allowed him to carry a replica of a confederate musket.

I tend to think that these days their mascot is some generic non threatening multi cultural rendition of something they can refer to as a Rebel.


43 posted on 04/11/2014 9:34:49 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe
The Fightin' Rebels


44 posted on 04/11/2014 9:42:49 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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