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Air Force apologizes to family after armed traffic stop (Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio)
Stars & Stripes ^ | April 10, 2014 | Laura A. Bischoff and Clint Davis

Posted on 04/11/2014 4:17:30 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

A Columbus, Ohio, family said their children were traumatized after what was meant to be a fun trip to the National Museum of the United States Air Force ended with guns drawn on them.

Alice Hill, 65, her daughter-in-law, Wendy, and two young grandchildren visited the museum on April 4 and, as they were leaving, were ordered to get out of their vehicle by military police. Hill said the officers pulled guns on the family and cuffed the adults in front of the children, according to an incident report.

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The family was detained for about 90 minutes as authorities sorted through questions about whether the van was stolen — it wasn't — and whether they were casing cars in the lot — they weren't.

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"An initial check of the vehicle plates with the National Law Enforcement Terminal System reported the vehicle as stolen," according to a base statement Tuesday. "Security forces responded as trained, and executed high-risk traffic stop procedures. Further investigation of the full vehicle information number revealed the vehicle was not stolen."

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"We sincerely regret the fact that their enjoyable day at the museum ended with this high-risk traffic stop," their statement read. "Had the vehicle not originally come back as stolen, this situation would have been resolved with a quick courtesy stop of the vehicle to clarify the initial report."

(Excerpt) Read more at daytondailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: airforce; database; donutwatch; museum
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Note that the USAF doesn't quite apologize to this family, and that nothing has apparently been done to change the erroneous info in this national stolen car database.
1 posted on 04/11/2014 4:17:30 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Well it was their fault for driving a vehicle the MPs thought was stolen. Next time they should make sure their vehicle isn’t on the list.


2 posted on 04/11/2014 4:20:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I spent 10 years in the Air Force. The base police did not instill confidence.


3 posted on 04/11/2014 4:21:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Timber Rattler

But his was a high-risk traffic stop!

Notice how it gets repeated.

Yeah, two kids and two women, one a senior citizen.


4 posted on 04/11/2014 4:21:41 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Timber Rattler

It is up to the originating agency to up date and remove any erroneous files.

The base police should have report the error to the entering agency.


5 posted on 04/11/2014 4:22:04 AM PDT by riverrunner
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,,, at least the base police didn't shoot them!
6 posted on 04/11/2014 4:25:43 AM PDT by Ken522
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It took 90 minutes to look at the registration, re-run the plates, and compare to the drivers’ licenses?


7 posted on 04/11/2014 4:25:53 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Jeesh!)
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"Had the vehicle not originally come back as stolen, this situation would have been resolved with a quick courtesy stop of the vehicle to clarify the initial report."

This makes not one bit of sense. It is self contradictory.

How to you clarify an initial report with a 'courtesy stop' yet blame that same 'report' as the reason these people were handcuffed and detained?

The fact is that if there had not been an erroneous report, there would have been no reason to stop them in the first place. They apparently learned from the best: Obama.

8 posted on 04/11/2014 4:26:49 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: exit82

I once watched them detain a guy in a secure area for having lost his badge. He was about halfway down a 30 ft hallway, kneeling with his hands behind his head.

The air force police were on either end of the hallway guns drawn, pointing at him and incidentally at each other. They were arguing with each other over what to do. One cop would give an instruction and then the other would countermand. The guy in the middle eventually told them to get their f*&!@ act together.


9 posted on 04/11/2014 4:28:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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The Air Force Museum is just fantastic. If you ever find yourself in the vicinity of Dayton, you really should stop by.

I believe they open at 8am 7 days a week, not sure what time they close, and it's free.

10 posted on 04/11/2014 4:28:44 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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These cops are auditioning for jobs with the ATF storm troopers


11 posted on 04/11/2014 4:29:05 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Jeesh!)
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ditto the museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola


12 posted on 04/11/2014 4:30:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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Well there is one place the armed forces are actually allowed to carry arms...and unfortunately use them against unarmed women and children.

I guess if it’s a man shooting a real gun, then they will “shelter in place”?


13 posted on 04/11/2014 4:30:46 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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Just part of the desensitization of ‘civilians’ (and LEOs) to brutal treatment of innocents.


14 posted on 04/11/2014 4:32:14 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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We visited the museum last summer. The volunteer selling the tickets gave us a rundown on what to look for and see. I asked him if the alien’s remains ere on display.

With out missing a beat he said “I ‘m sorry sir but that display is still classified. “


15 posted on 04/11/2014 4:33:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: j. earl carter

Maybe you should be sure to arrive on foot! (sarc/off)


16 posted on 04/11/2014 4:34:51 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Timber Rattler

With the proliferation of automatic license plate readers, we can expect incidents like this to become a common occurrence.


17 posted on 04/11/2014 4:35:48 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: driftdiver

for comic releaf check out the barney fifes at florida atlantic universities police dept.
always great for a laugh


18 posted on 04/11/2014 4:42:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Timber Rattler

two women and a couple kids is enough to scare the Chair Force?

We are in trouble


19 posted on 04/11/2014 4:44:26 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Gaffer
This makes not one bit of sense. It is self contradictory.

How to you clarify an initial report with a 'courtesy stop' yet blame that same 'report' as the reason these people were handcuffed and detained?

If you click through to the article you will see...

Wait a minute... You can't click through to the article because the link isn't posted. Well, we can fix that.

Air Force Apologizes to Family after Traffic Stop

the initial report was that the van was cruising the parking lot and looking at all the cars in a suspicious manner. It turns out the family was looking at all of the out-of-state license plates. When the MPs ran the license plate after the initial report, it came up as stolen.

The police response, given that information, was appropriate.

20 posted on 04/11/2014 4:46:51 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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