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Air Force apologizes to family after armed traffic stop (Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio)
Stars & Stripes ^ | April 10, 2014 | Laura A. Bischoff and Clint Davis

Posted on 04/11/2014 4:17:30 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler
Dude, I told you not to use your phone to check plate numbers. It's OH, not NH.
101 posted on 04/11/2014 2:30:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: deks
I only read the excerpt above. I'm not trying to prove anything. It is stated that they pulled their guns. Rather than point them at the ground, I think it is likely they pointed them at the occupants of the car. The children are part of the family and were in the car... Voilà.

Voilà, indeed.

People will believe what they want to believe, and these officers will be excoriated for things they probably didn't do. But it is all grist for the mill.

102 posted on 04/11/2014 2:55:44 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: Timber Rattler

I can just feel the love for our servicemen and women on this thread.

I see many of these airmen everyday on my way into work and have been stopped for traffic violations on occasion...nice folks, professional and courteous for their age and positions...

The USAF changed their “traffic stop” policy after Tech. Sgt. Robert B. Butler was murdered at Edwards AFB in 1998 while pulling over a vehicle.


103 posted on 04/11/2014 3:15:50 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

I was one of those servicemen at one time. I went to tech school at the same place they did. They trained their dogs in my dorm. Letting them crap on our floor, tear up our beds, break our stuff. I endured their threats and ego trip on what they’d do when they got their ‘badge’. The closest I ever came to dying was when they failed to follow procedure and almost shot me.

So gimme a break, they all aren’t heros.


104 posted on 04/11/2014 4:02:52 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Haiku Guy

From the article:

A Columbus family said “their children were traumatized” after what was meant to be a fun trip to the National Museum of the United States Air Force “ended with guns drawn on them.”

Hill said the “officers pulled guns on the family” and cuffed the adults in front of the children.


Plus I would assume the adults were hugging the kids close as any parents would, and it’s probably difficult to aim guns at the adults without aiming them at the kids.


105 posted on 04/11/2014 5:23:06 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Haiku Guy

You are still suffering from the adversarial mindset.

My current work involves checking employee and contractor screening data,and improperly entered,incorrect,and late data entry has caused many people un-necessary delay and aggravation.

Making a request for license and registration before making accusations based on computer stored info is a non-confrontational move that won’t look bad if the vehicle turns out to be legitimate,and if stolen status is confirmed you have the driver’s ID ,making it less likely for him to run.Also if driver balks or makes move to flee or fight ,the officer can then draw a weapon.That worked for America’s police for decades.

Approaching every situation with gun pointed is overkill,sometimes literally.

As for ranting,well, the all too often excesses of today’s law ENFORCERS need ranting about.Because those in law enforcement won’t speak out ,likely of fear of being harassed or shunned by other members of the fraternity. Public employee unions are a very bad thing.


106 posted on 04/11/2014 7:28:23 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: driftdiver

Right!


107 posted on 04/12/2014 4:40:01 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Haiku Guy
van was cruising the parking lot and looking at all the cars in a suspicious manner

TSA trainees?

108 posted on 04/12/2014 4:46:48 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: driftdiver

There will always be ego tripping aholes...dont see where I claimed any are heroes either.


109 posted on 04/12/2014 3:30:00 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: bert

I made a stop there on the way to New Orleans in June 2001. My grandfather was in the Navy in WWII so he wanted to see it.

It was really nice. New Orleans,on the other hand....lol.

I enjoyed visiting the city but there were some REALLY creepy people walking around.


110 posted on 04/19/2014 5:01:59 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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"I have a sneaking suspicion that they plate they ran that came up stolen was slightly different from the plate that was actually on the car."

In small towns in States that have plates with a county code, it can be a hassle to be out of county.

111 posted on 04/25/2014 10:09:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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