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Russian channels caught lying
Human Rights in Ukraine ^ | 04/11/2014 | Halya Coynash

Posted on 04/11/2014 6:00:17 AM PDT by Agog

Despite the vast amounts Russia is spending on anti-Ukrainian propaganda, the TV channels Rossiya 1 and NTV skimped on actors – and got caught.

Rossiya 1 shows a person they call Andriy Petkov and call him a supporter of federalism who was beaten up by “radicals”.

NTV shows the same man, even adds a caption with the same name, yet has a quite different story, Petkov, they claim, was certainly injured, but is himself a “mercenary” who has made a “sensational confession” – that he, a resident of Germany brought 50 people, “all residents of Western Europe” to Ukraine to carry out violent acts.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; agogagitprop; crimea; frsvobodinistas; humanrightagitprop; putinsbuttboys; rinos4soros; russia; russiapropaganda; sorosbuttboys; surrendermonkeys; svobodinistasatfr; ukraine
Why some skepticism should be exercised when reading Russian news sources.
1 posted on 04/11/2014 6:00:17 AM PDT by Agog
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To: Agog
I trust Russian media almost as much as I trust American media. Well, as much. Maybe a little more.

Naaa. I don't trust either, Both are instruments of their governments.

2 posted on 04/11/2014 6:06:17 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Agog

Same goes for CNN, Faux and MSDNC.


3 posted on 04/11/2014 6:09:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tupelo

While many in American media distort facts by biased reporting, there is usually some truth under that. Russian media does not report at all. Normal modus operandi for them is to take any fact and turn it inside-out upside-down. Sometimes the lie is so obvious that even our domestic Putin fan club has nothing to say in support.


4 posted on 04/11/2014 6:12:24 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Agog

You mean like MSNBC? They seek only to divide and ruin this great (once great) nation!


5 posted on 04/11/2014 6:12:31 AM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: dfwgator

When American media fakes-up a story (not so blatantly as the Russians, but still), you don’t see people on FR shrugging their shoulders and saying, “But Rossiya 1, NTV, RIA Novosti.”


6 posted on 04/11/2014 6:14:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Agog

How do we know

Human Rights in Ukraine ^ | 04/11/2014 | Halya Coynash

isn’t lying?


7 posted on 04/11/2014 6:15:02 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Agog
Oh yes.

Pravda was always such a humorous name for the Soviet/Russian news media. Well, I thought it was humorous.

8 posted on 04/11/2014 6:17:31 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

The is no Izvestiya in Pravda, and there is no Pravda in Izvestiya.


9 posted on 04/11/2014 6:18:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GizzyGirl
You mean like MSNBC? They seek only to divide and ruin this great (once great) nation!

GG: I think that this nation is still great.

10 posted on 04/11/2014 6:19:02 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: dfwgator

Oh, ok.


11 posted on 04/11/2014 6:21:06 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: McGruff

How do we know

Human Rights in Ukraine ^ | 04/11/2014 | Halya Coynash

isn’t lying?
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The article provides links to the actual Russian news broadcasts that it describes. It very easy for the viewer to make his or her own comparison and verify that the article is truthful.

While I appreciate that moral relativism is alive and well on FR, there still exists room to exercise some judgment.


12 posted on 04/11/2014 6:28:03 AM PDT by Agog
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To: cloudmountain

It used to be that conservatives loved America despite its sins. We only wanted to make it better. It seems Obama has caused many to despair to the point where all they have for America is scorn. Like a successful enemy, he’s broken their will to fight. They seem to wallow in self-pity and some prefer to swallow Putin’s blatant lies as if Putin isn’t akin to Obama in his desires to harm America.


13 posted on 04/11/2014 6:31:11 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Agog
Why some skepticism should be exercised when reading Russian news sources.

When did we ever read Russian news sources with any other mind set? I don't remember a time for doing that. Do you?

14 posted on 04/11/2014 6:31:44 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: elhombrelibre
It seems Obama

Obama isn't the problem....it's the people who voted for him that are the problem, and it's only going to get worse, demographics is destiny.

15 posted on 04/11/2014 6:32:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Agog

Yeah....still trying to find any real difference between Russian media and media here in the US.


16 posted on 04/11/2014 6:35:27 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: elhombrelibre
It used to be that conservatives loved America despite its sins. We only wanted to make it better. It seems Obama has caused many to despair to the point where all they have for America is scorn. Like a successful enemy, he’s broken their will to fight. They seem to wallow in self-pity and some prefer to swallow Putin’s blatant lies as if Putin isn’t akin to Obama in his desires to harm America.

Interesting view point. Maybe you're right.

Hard to visualize conservatives in such flat despair when they know that eight years is the MAX for "damage" time. They are usually made of sterner stuff.
Perhaps conservatives see no one in their own camp who can win the next presidency and Congress. THAT would definitely be more cause for despair.

17 posted on 04/11/2014 6:35:49 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: dfwgator

Come on. People voted that idiot Carter into office too. Stay positive. Reread Whittaker Chambers’s book WITNESS and see how bleak he thought things were. Yet we survived the Soviets, and we survived Carter. There is much wrong in the US and much to be done. But we’re not in perpetual decline unless we give up. A growing economy is the best way to destroy the statist solutions that allegedly gives demographics an advantage. After eight years of Obama choking the economy, anyone willing to turn the productive spirit of Americans loose again will be able to gain a majority to turn things around.


18 posted on 04/11/2014 6:40:41 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Agog

On the other hand:

It’s not possible that the same guy made up two different stories?

Also interesting: the Ukrainian government is banning foreign journalists? You’d think they’d want journalists in to refute the Russian propaganda. No-one bans journalists unless they don’t want people to know what’s REALLY going in.


19 posted on 04/11/2014 6:43:11 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Samogon
While many in American media distort facts by biased reporting, there is usually some truth under that. Russian media does not report at all. Normal modus operandi for them is to take any fact and turn it inside-out upside-down. Sometimes the lie is so obvious that even our domestic Putin fan club has nothing to say in support.

Sounds exactly like our media. Remember the Zimmerman case? Ever hear of a politician called Obama and all the reporting on him?

20 posted on 04/11/2014 6:43:47 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: cloudmountain

I think a lot of them forget how bad it was in the 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s for conservatives. What’d we have? William F. Buckley’s NATIONAL REVIEW and HUMAN EVENTS and THE AMERICAN SPECTATOR. We’ve much more now. We’ve faced down bigger problems. We need to stay positive. To take on the cultural causes for our decline and keep pushing to unleash the productive sector of America. This woe is me stuff is self defeating. What coach would say, “Team, we’re going to lose. Might as well not try.”?


21 posted on 04/11/2014 6:44:41 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Agog

I wouldn’t question whether the Russian news reports are real; I’d only question Human Rights in Ukraine’s interpretation.


22 posted on 04/11/2014 6:45:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: cloudmountain
Pravda was always such a humorous name for the Soviet/Russian news media.

Here in the US it is no better.

The 'affordable' care act, 'Transparency' in government, 'equal' rights.

23 posted on 04/11/2014 6:46:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Cementjungle

I bet the US doesn’t even have FReeREpublic either. Oh, yes it does. Hey, maybe there are places where we can speak out. Maybe we don’t have to despair and say we’re no different than a totalitarian regime.


24 posted on 04/11/2014 6:46:47 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: cloudmountain
I think that this nation is still great.

It is. It's just the society and government that have gone to hell.

25 posted on 04/11/2014 6:47:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: elhombrelibre

But at least then we still had the “Silent Majority”, that isn’t the case anymore.


26 posted on 04/11/2014 6:49:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dangus
No-one bans journalists unless they don’t want people to know what’s REALLY going in.

Oh, is that why the White House has banned journalists ?

27 posted on 04/11/2014 6:52:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: dfwgator

America is not inexorable decline unless we give up and accept that we’ve not good enough facts, arguments, and evidence to expose Obama’s and the Democrats’ failures. I’m not giving up on the country I love.


28 posted on 04/11/2014 6:53:11 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: UCANSEE2

EXACTLY!!!


29 posted on 04/11/2014 6:53:34 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Samogon

Yeah, communists being themselves...lying, murderous thieves under color of the law.


30 posted on 04/11/2014 6:53:59 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Cementjungle
Remember the Zimmerman case?
Good example. Our alphabet soup at least correctly reported who shot whom. Russians would tell you that Trayvon shot Zimmerman then traded bodies with him, or something equally ridiculous.
31 posted on 04/11/2014 6:55:42 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: McGruff
A quick review of Human Rights in Ukraine website will give you insight on the selective nature of their concerns.

In this case it's hard to comprehend a so-called "human rights" organization that pays more attention to how events are portrayed on foreign television than the actual events themselves.

32 posted on 04/11/2014 7:02:05 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Agog

Get back to me when they are caught telling the truth.


33 posted on 04/11/2014 7:14:52 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Samogon
"While many in American media distort facts by biased reporting, there is usually some truth under that. Russian media does not report at all. Normal modus operandi for them is to take any fact and turn it inside-out upside-down. Sometimes the lie is so obvious that even our domestic Putin fan club has nothing to say in support."

Unfortunately, we have a population - called liberals - that would believe either Russian or American news out of hand.

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34 posted on 04/11/2014 8:14:01 AM PDT by celmak
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To: Agog
Russian channels caught lying

Depending upon the story, in recent years (since the 0bama regime seized power) some of the Russian source like Pravda have proven to be more truthful, informative and reliable than American sources like SeeBS, ABC, NBC, NY Slimes, Wash Compost, etc.

35 posted on 04/11/2014 8:23:31 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Depending upon the story, in recent years (since the 0bama regime seized power) some of the Russian source like Pravda have proven to be more truthful, informative and reliable than American sources like SeeBS, ABC, NBC, NY Slimes, Wash Compost, etc.

Except in this case where they were caught red-handed spewing their blatant propaganda.

36 posted on 04/11/2014 10:02:58 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Agog.


37 posted on 04/11/2014 7:51:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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