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Democrats embrace adding photos to Social Security cards
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Posted on 04/11/2014 6:45:44 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Democrats embrace adding photos to Social Security cards By Juliet Eilperin and Karen Tumulty, Published: April 10

As Republicans push for new voting restrictions around the country, a handful of Democrats have coalesced around an impromptu idea: placing a photo on Social Security cards.

Former U.N. ambassador and civil rights activist Andrew Young — who chairs a nonpartisan voting rights group called Why Tuesday? — buttonholed President Obama and two of his predecessors in Texas this week in an effort to win their support for the concept. Former presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter endorsed the idea, while the White House declined to comment.

“It’s just an idea whose time may have come,” said Young, a former Atlanta mayor who was in Austin to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act at the Lyndon B. Johnson presidential library. “What we’re saying is, everybody’s got a Social Security card. But with all of this identity theft going on, it’s a good idea to have your picture on it.”

The proposal drew praise from some election experts but also prompted immediate concerns on both sides of the political spectrum — highlighting the controversy that still surrounds voting rights issues.

Some voter advocates said requiring such cards could still put poorer Americans at a disadvantage, while conservatives such as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) argued that it could pave the way for a new form of national ID.

“This is a really bad idea,” Paul said in a statement. “The Social Security card is only supposed to be used for Social Security benefits. This idea would make it easy for the federal government to convert the Social Security card into a national identification card.”

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1 posted on 04/11/2014 6:45:44 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Whose photo will be used on Barry’s?


2 posted on 04/11/2014 6:46:27 AM PDT by harwood (You don't wanna go there.)
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To: Sub-Driver
But no photo ID for voting, right?
3 posted on 04/11/2014 6:48:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket)
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To: Sub-Driver
“This is a really bad idea,” Paul said in a statement. “The Social Security card is only supposed to be used for Social Security benefits. This idea would make it easy for the federal government to convert the Social Security card into a national identification card.”

That boat sailed a long time ago...

4 posted on 04/11/2014 6:48:55 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: harwood

Popeye’s “Whimpy.”


5 posted on 04/11/2014 6:49:04 AM PDT by madison10
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To: harwood

And which card would he put a photo on? All of them?


6 posted on 04/11/2014 6:49:17 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, let’s.

And we can use these for voter ID.


7 posted on 04/11/2014 6:49:37 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Sub-Driver

To vote in Mexico you have to get a photo ID with a fingerprint and you have to show a birth certificate to obtain it. Also it must be picked up in person. In the Marxist USA....not so.


8 posted on 04/11/2014 6:50:12 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: harwood

The puppet master, George Soros.


9 posted on 04/11/2014 6:50:16 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think the whole ‘voter ID’ thing has been a ploy, a la “please don’t throw me into the briar patch” for the statists of both parties to roll with a national ID.
Way more worried about that than about illegal aliens voting.


10 posted on 04/11/2014 6:50:44 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ripe for ID theft. People should not even carry around their SS card with no picture on it. Indiana years ago was using SS as a auto license number.

That ended because people lost their DL and their SS was out there exposed with picture ID, address and age.

Demorats are stupid beyond belief.


11 posted on 04/11/2014 6:50:46 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Sub-Driver

so my kids got their SS cards when they were tots... is that when they would have taken their photos?


12 posted on 04/11/2014 6:50:55 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Sub-Driver

And use it for ID in all elections?


13 posted on 04/11/2014 6:52:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Sub-Driver
“This is a really bad idea,” Paul said in a statement. “The Social Security card is only supposed to be used for Social Security benefits

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Did he just fall off the turnip truck? That ship sailed a long time ago.

14 posted on 04/11/2014 6:52:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FRiends


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15 posted on 04/11/2014 6:53:27 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: Sub-Driver

FDR swore on a stack of Bibles to the skeptical American people that the social security number was NOT an id number. Suckers!

16 posted on 04/11/2014 6:53:28 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“You can keep your privacy...if you want to keep it.”


17 posted on 04/11/2014 6:54:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dforest

If democrats are touting it, particularly the criminal BJC, I’m against it already! This includes the Democrat Jeb Bush !!!


18 posted on 04/11/2014 6:55:09 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wellllllllll.............that would ‘solve’ the ‘Photo ID’ problem wouldn’t it?..............................


19 posted on 04/11/2014 6:55:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Sub-Driver

“National ID Card”? Maybe everybody should have one of those to vote. Let’s see how that idea goes over with the Dems.


20 posted on 04/11/2014 6:56:59 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Sub-Driver
The Social Security Number is NOT to be Used for Identification
21 posted on 04/11/2014 6:57:59 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Sub-Driver
How often do I need to have a new photo affixed to my ss card? Where do I go to have new photo affixed to my ss card? How much is this going to cost me for a new photo to be affixed to my card? The money paid for a new photo and card, who receives the money? Where will the money collected from this requirement be spent or will the money go into the general fund for government expenditures? ... The article does not say.

A little rant Sub-Driver and was not directed at you.

22 posted on 04/11/2014 6:59:19 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Sub-Driver

I have files upon files of fake IDs that contain photographs of the same person with different names, dates of birth, and driver’s license numbers or ID. The illegals know where to get fake IDs to collect multiple welfare checks. What makes them think they won’t do the same with social security cards? I hate to say it but the only way I can see that the photo could be tied with any degree of accuracy to an ID would be through biometrics and even then there are many very similar looking people on earth that are unrelated that could pass for twins.


23 posted on 04/11/2014 6:59:24 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sub-Driver
I've been a poll watcher for years in PA and have seen the voter fraud first hand and I'm in favor of Voter ID cards, BUT, if you can vote via mail, nothing prevents that kind of massive voter fraud.

I believe that there should be ONE DAY for voting, and if you can't be there in person, you lose, with the exception of military persons voting via absentee ballots.

This will never happen because too many demonRATs know that mail voting almost guarantees them a winning spot on the ticket.

Voters from old age homes should be verified for competence as too many ballots are filed by Nurse Rachett, and the "voter" hasn't got a clue as to what they signed.

24 posted on 04/11/2014 7:00:43 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

> FDR swore on a stack of Bibles to the skeptical American people that the social security number was NOT an id number. Suckers!

Well he lied. Its the most common form of peronal identification used now.


25 posted on 04/11/2014 7:01:19 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sub-Driver

FDR told America they would never be used for Federal IDs.


26 posted on 04/11/2014 7:02:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Think of all the new federal jobs this would create. Probably would need thousands of new employees to implement and manage this endeavor.


27 posted on 04/11/2014 7:03:18 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Sub-Driver
Do these idiots realize how many millions would have to get a photo made. Look at the inconvenience or is that all our government is now, just plain stupid. Can you imagine what a newly born baby would have for the id picture? And as we grow older the picture would have to be retaken and new cards issued. Can't we just ask the government to go to damn asleep and just get off our backs???????
28 posted on 04/11/2014 7:03:39 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: RedStateRocker
Way more worried about that than about illegal aliens voting.

No, acceptable voter IDs should be issued by the states and the SS card should not be used for voter ID. SS cards are one of the most forged documents in the US and it would be no different with a photo added.

And the acceptable state issued photo IDs already exist and would not become a national ID card.

29 posted on 04/11/2014 7:04:10 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Sub-Driver

If: Dim-bulb-crats support
Then: Slime, deception and felony surely follows.

Period.


30 posted on 04/11/2014 7:04:22 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Sub-Driver

So now Democrats are favoring a photo ID for voting? Who cares what ID card it’s on.


31 posted on 04/11/2014 7:04:24 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

32 posted on 04/11/2014 7:04:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
FDR told America they would never be used for Federal IDs.

The check is in the mail.

I won't .... in your .....

33 posted on 04/11/2014 7:05:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I prefer not to disclose my SSN to people like that


34 posted on 04/11/2014 7:06:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: no-to-illegals

Don’t worry, you will need to pay for the new photos. And you will need to pay for the ones to be used by all of the “poor” people, too. And everyone will have to have these, but if they are too much trouble for minorities and the elderly to go get them, we will have teams of federal employees who will go to them, to take their pictures. No problem.

(Sorry, nothing personal. I am just ranting about the stupidity of the idea, and the hypocrisy of the dems to think this is a good idea, but that it is too much trouble for people to have to get and use photo IDs for voting.)


35 posted on 04/11/2014 7:06:30 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: DouglasKC

Social Security numbers are issued to infants or very young children, would that be the picture carried on their card throughout their entire lives?

A DNA biometric would be a more successful inclusion, totally personalizing the Social Security card for just about everybody, except maybe identical twins or possibly cloned entities. But that may be a battle for another generation in the future.


36 posted on 04/11/2014 7:06:34 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is an absolute non starter. Photo ID’s at the state level is OK but a National ID card? No way. Soon it will be, “Your papers please”? Better yet how about contributing to the New World Order (Read United Nations) Mark of the Beast! I will non comply. You can’t vote you say? Who cares. I am getting tired of voting for the crime family.


37 posted on 04/11/2014 7:07:54 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Sub-Driver

When I got my Social Security Card it had printed on it that it was NOT an identification card. Guess all of that has changed.

Adding a photograph to the Social Security Card might, and I say that with a very large grain of salt, prevent fraudulent cards from circulating. But then again, how many secure credit cards have been compromised lately?


38 posted on 04/11/2014 7:07:55 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: NEMDF

ya know I think you have some good points.


39 posted on 04/11/2014 7:10:01 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: DouglasKC
“This is a really bad idea,” Paul said in a statement. “The Social Security card is only supposed to be used for Social Security benefits. This idea would make it easy for the federal government to convert the Social Security card into a national identification card.” That boat sailed a long time ago...

BUT, BUT, FDR promised it wouldn't be used for ID purposes.

guess if you like your ID you can keep your ID....another failed promise.

40 posted on 04/11/2014 7:10:33 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“But no photo ID for voting, right?”
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Correct because that’s different.


41 posted on 04/11/2014 7:14:06 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: mongo141
We must have duplication. We must overlap departments. There simply isn't enough. We must find new methods to collect the taxpayers' money; all of it! We need more of everything. If it doesn't work, we can blame somebody ... anybody but we whom have decided. There ain't enough more out there. We, your humbly elected, will 'change' that. If you 'hope' we don't ... well go pound sand. We, your humbly elected, have spoken.

This message brought to you by those not wanting voter ID and honest elections.

42 posted on 04/11/2014 7:23:56 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: latina4dubya
so my kids got their SS cards when they were tots... is that when they would have taken their photos?

I think it's a great idea! They can have mine right now!


43 posted on 04/11/2014 7:30:11 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, it’ll be an ID card when it was never supposed to be used for ID. Ok, whatever.


44 posted on 04/11/2014 7:34:04 AM PDT by bgill
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To: DouglasKC

I think Paul is overreacting. We already have social security cards, so why is adding a photo to it such a bad idea? What is the big difference between a Voter ID card with a photo and a social security card with a photo? The only objection I can think of is cost, because the photos would need to be updated periodically.


45 posted on 04/11/2014 7:42:42 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Sub-Driver
“The Social Security card is only supposed to be used for Social Security benefits. This idea would make it easy for the federal government to convert the Social Security card into a national identification card.”

That ship sailed during the Carter Administration when they removed the words "Not for Identification Purposes" from the card, and everyone began asking for your SSN for every blasted thing.


46 posted on 04/11/2014 7:50:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

The Feds had better make it Mandatory to produce a Certified Birth Certificate before the Social Security Card can be issued.Otherwise that would just defeat the purpose and allow the democrats to continue with their Voter Fraud Campaign.


47 posted on 04/11/2014 7:51:04 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

okay—that made me laugh out loud—at work!


48 posted on 04/11/2014 7:51:55 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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49 posted on 04/11/2014 7:54:56 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Will88

Yeah, probably the best solution.


50 posted on 04/11/2014 7:58:16 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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