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OIL FRACKING LEASES Reason For Bundy Ranch Fiasco in Nevada NOT 'Desert Tortoise!
The Survival Place Blog ^ | Aprol 11, 2014 | kackikat

Posted on 04/11/2014 8:34:41 AM PDT by Kackikat

"The Bureau of Land Management has just cashed in with $1.27 million in oil and gas leases in Nevada. This was just reported two weeks ago in ShaleReporter.com, which states:

U.S. Bureau of Land Management geologist Lorenzo Trimble tells the Las Vegas Review-Journal the Elko County oil and gas leases sold

Tuesday for $1.27 million to six different companies. The auction took place in Reno. The leases are near where Houston-based Noble Energy Inc. wants to drill for oil and natural gas on 40,000 acres of public and private land near the town of Wells. The Review-Journal reports the project would be the first in Nevada to use hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, to extract oil and gas from shale deposits.

The way this works, of course, is that BLM runs land theft operations by claiming they are “managing” the land and thereby kicking everyone else off it. "

(Excerpt) Read more at thesurvivalplaceblog.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: agenda21; bundy; bundyranch; civilianarmy; fracking; harryreid; neilkornze; nevada; nevadaranch; nwo; obamamafia; oilleases; testingtyranny; trialrun; un
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The Bundy Ranch 'public land use for grazing' is part of the area where the oil fracking leases were given. The MAP FROM THE LAND BLM FOR THE LEASES IS AT THE WEBSITE AND IN THE ARTICLE. This not about the 'Desert Tortoise' as claimed, since "BLM were destroying them" last year according to Mike Adams, who wrote the article. A MUST READ for anyone keeping up with BLM and Bundy Ranch Standoff!
1 posted on 04/11/2014 8:34:41 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

There is no reason fracking and grazing can’t co-exist.


2 posted on 04/11/2014 8:40:06 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: SolidRedState

That was my first thought. But the BLM isn’t rational. Probably in the course of their dispute with Bundy, they managed to back themselves into some sort of corner.


3 posted on 04/11/2014 8:41:33 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SolidRedState

BLM is not about accomodation.


4 posted on 04/11/2014 8:42:38 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: SolidRedState

Tell that to the BLM in Nevada...I have no objection to that.


5 posted on 04/11/2014 8:42:58 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

It is because he did not pay his bills. He does not have the right to use public land for grazing without the fee just because his family did in 1884.


6 posted on 04/11/2014 8:43:17 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Kackikat
Is there any doubt that our current entire Federal Government is made up of communists criminals and are systematically destroying America by destroying individual Americans. Think, you must retrain your brain to see beyond and between the lines. Logic is currently missing with many Americans.
7 posted on 04/11/2014 8:45:13 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Louis Foxwell

Therein lies the real problem, because now it’s public land, later private land..... that will fall under eminent domain and some agency takes it, so the government gets the money for oil or other natural resources that should go to the owners.


8 posted on 04/11/2014 8:45:31 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
Tuesday for $1.27 million to six different companies. The auction took place in Reno. The leases are near where Houston-based Noble Energy Inc. wants to drill for oil and natural gas on 40,000 acres of public and private land near the town of Wells.

Then why the hell are they worried about land near Las Vegas?

Wells, NV is at the junction of US 95 and I-80 (about an hour south of the Idaho/Nevada border on US 95), and is more than 350 miles from Bunkerville, NV, where the Bundy ranch is located.

9 posted on 04/11/2014 8:45:50 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Do you work for BLM in Nevada, unbelievable.


10 posted on 04/11/2014 8:46:14 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

And how much does Harry Reid get out of this scam?

Is he not the top dumb-o-crat senate representative from Nevada who was elected to stand up for the voters of this state - oh wait reid , dumb-o-crat, money under the table - never mind he’s to busy wheeling and dealing lining his pockets.


11 posted on 04/11/2014 8:47:07 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: IYAS9YAS

Thank you, for showing that auctions do not always take place near the land in question.


12 posted on 04/11/2014 8:47:31 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: chiefqc

I guess no one told Reid there aren’t any U-hauls being towed behind the Hearse, or bank books in the hereafter.


13 posted on 04/11/2014 8:48:44 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

The only way this administration would allow fracking on fed lands is if there was no oil or gas there.


14 posted on 04/11/2014 8:49:06 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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Thank you, for showing that auctions do not always take place near the land in question.

The auction took place in Reno (which is a short drive from the state Capital of Carson City). The excerpt specifically mentioned that the land they were interested in drilling was located near Wells, NV. Again, Wells, NV is more than 350 miles from Bundy's land.

15 posted on 04/11/2014 8:50:52 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Kackikat

Go buy you some cows and see if you can graze on BLM land without paying.


16 posted on 04/11/2014 8:51:26 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Kackikat

bttt


17 posted on 04/11/2014 8:51:28 AM PDT by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: Cicero

I doubt there is some great conspiracy afoot between the BLM and oil leases, but what they are doing to the Bundys is beyond the pale.

Both sides have made some miscalculations and unless they can arrive at some reasonable accomadation, it could get really hairy down there.

The BLM will push this to the limit. The Bundys won’t back down.


18 posted on 04/11/2014 8:53:17 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: SolidRedState

“There is no reason fracking and grazing can’t co-exist.”

Agree. Happens all the time here in Texas. God Bless Texas.


19 posted on 04/11/2014 8:54:21 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: logic101.net

The point is the ‘lie’ by BLM, not whether the leases are usable....the BLM did get the money!


20 posted on 04/11/2014 8:54:53 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Resolute Conservative
Running cattle on BLM land is a way of life in the southwest. The bogus turtle crap is junk science. The turtles almost died off when the cows were removed decades ago. When the cows came back so did the turtles.

Meanwhile, a solar energy project bulldozed turtle habitat, is frying birds in flight, and oh so politically correct windmills chop up eagles and other protected birds by the hundreds.

When the BLM is done there will be a shortage of sand in this desert. The Bundy family chose not to buy their chains.

21 posted on 04/11/2014 8:55:02 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Kackikat

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/MINERALS__REALTY__AND_RESOURCE_PROTECTION_/energy/renewable_references.Par.48679.File.dat/Regional%20Mitigation%20Strategy%20for%20the%20Dry%20Lake%20Solar%20Energy%20Zone,%20Technical%20Note%20444%20%28March%202014%29.pdf


22 posted on 04/11/2014 8:55:09 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Resolute Conservative
It is because he did not pay his bills.

That's the government/media narrative. Why do you automatically believe them?

/johnny

23 posted on 04/11/2014 8:57:01 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

ROFL...and they used to say ‘We are from the government and we are here to help you”....too funny.


24 posted on 04/11/2014 8:58:01 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Resolute Conservative

“It is because he did not pay his bills.”

This is not what I’ve read. He tried to pay his bills, but the BLM would not take his payments. He then tried to get the state to take his payments and hold them for the BLM, but the state didn’t want to be involved. Only then did he stop paying. I wish I could link you to where I’d read that, but I’ve read so many articles on this story, that I don’t know where to look .


25 posted on 04/11/2014 8:58:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Public land? He is part of that public. It is public, not federal land...the government has no right to claim it.


26 posted on 04/11/2014 8:58:57 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Kackikat

$1.27 million for 40,000 acres?

Sounds like 6 companies got themselves a real good deal.


27 posted on 04/11/2014 8:59:17 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Kackikat

If you want to take it with you when you go, get a tattoo.


28 posted on 04/11/2014 9:00:01 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Paladin2

Oy Vey! Does this mean more Solar Company loans from Taxpayer dollars, that will end up in Democrat coffers before they go bankrupt?
This whole things just keeps getting worse.


29 posted on 04/11/2014 9:00:34 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: SolidRedState
There is no reason fracking and grazing can’t co-exist.

Or seismic work. Or drilling. Or completions. Or any other activity associated with oil and gas exploration.

The linked article refers, rather hysterically, to "oil fracking leases" and "shale fracking leases," and cites a BLM lease auction where the feds sold leases in Elko County, NV for $1.27 million (which is a pretty modest amount for a federal lease auction). Last time I checked, Elko County is quite a distance away from Clark County.

Also, I happen to have no less than half a dozen leases sitting here on my desk. Every one of them is clearly styled at the top "Oil, Gas and Mineral Lease." Strangely enough, not one of them is styled as a "Oil Fracking Lease" or a "Shale Fracking Lease," as if buying a bunch of expensive hydrofrac services was in and of itself the objective.
30 posted on 04/11/2014 9:01:18 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: IMR 4350

Exactly!


31 posted on 04/11/2014 9:01:18 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Wells is 300(or so) miles from the Bundy Ranch. This is about STOPPING oil development and taking water for Vegas.


32 posted on 04/11/2014 9:01:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Resolute Conservative

“Go buy you some cows and see if you can graze on BLM land without paying.”

The BLM never had any control over those lands until Clowntoon took office!

Carter tried but Reagan put a stop to it as soon as he took office. You need to buy a history book.


33 posted on 04/11/2014 9:02:51 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SolidRedState

Check our line at #22 and my reply...eye opening on Southern Nevada and the future of taxpayer dollars.


34 posted on 04/11/2014 9:03:08 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
Pretty much.

Note that the BLM is now run by a former Harry Reed staffer (rose to the top in 3 years - probably a floater).

35 posted on 04/11/2014 9:03:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Resolute Conservative

Exactly. Whatever his disputes were with BLM management, he should have continued paying the fees.

Which isn’t to say BLM is correct in their management, as they are generally pwned by the ecofreak, earth mother luddites. They probably were trying to manage Bundy into bankruptcy.

But not paying the fees put him on the wrong side of the law and lets BLM legally strong arm him off the land.


36 posted on 04/11/2014 9:03:25 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Cicero

We had a case here in my county where the state took land for nonpayment of taxes. The taxes would have been paid but greenies, the county and the state had it tied up in court over what the guy could do with his own property.

Once the land was taken the leases were approved within a month with the county and state dividing up the mineral rights before putting the property up for auction. The only silver lining was that the greenies got used by the state and tossed aside.


37 posted on 04/11/2014 9:03:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Only until the maggots get it....lol


38 posted on 04/11/2014 9:04:14 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: IMR 4350

Harry ‘the Mormon’ Reid feeds his criminal enterprise in Nevada.


39 posted on 04/11/2014 9:04:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Resolute Conservative

He had 1,000 head of cattle. not huge by western rancher standards. In 1993, he was told by BLM he could no longer graze all of his cattle—just 150 of them in the same area, and he has disputed the numbers and charges for those numbers since. A big part of what the BLM says he owes is back fees on the “undocumented cattle” he ran there.

The whole thing is about federal over-reach, pure and simple.


40 posted on 04/11/2014 9:05:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Milton Miteybad

I think the point was that BLM lied about the ‘Desert Tortoise’ because they were destroying that same reptile last year!
And be sure to check the link on comment #22 for the plan on Solar in So Nevada land....more gov’t backed solar companies to waste taxpayer dollars and fill dem coffers before going bankrupt?
I like Solar but not the fleecing of the people!


41 posted on 04/11/2014 9:06:39 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: MHGinTN

‘Kornze, the new BLM chief, is familiar with the area. He’s a natural resource manager who grew up in Elko, Nev., and served previously as a senior adviser to Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid.”


42 posted on 04/11/2014 9:07:07 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Resolute Conservative
It is because he did not pay his bills. He does not have the right to use public land for grazing without the fee just because his family did in 1884.

What statute can you cite for your claim? How do you know this rancher's rights weren't grandfathered from a time long before the existence of the BLM and that what the gov't has done here essentially constitutes a taking?

FReegards!

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43 posted on 04/11/2014 9:08:27 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: cripplecreek

I just gave that reply privately to someone who made a point objection...thanks.
People who haven’t dealt with the government or the leftist Environmentalists have no idea how they can put enough fines, penalties, and legal expenses on someone to get the land easily.


44 posted on 04/11/2014 9:08:41 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
The link is that the solar plant abused the local environment and the BLM needs to provide compensatory mitigation in some other area, like Bundy's grazing lease area.

The cattle must be removed from the range to offset the impact of the solar plant.

45 posted on 04/11/2014 9:09:19 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Logical me

Agreed.


46 posted on 04/11/2014 9:09:20 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Paladin2

And a greedy control freak, no doubt in my mind.


47 posted on 04/11/2014 9:10:29 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Doubt seriously that is for the actual leases, more than likely it’s for being allowed to do the seismic work.

If it is for seismic work then the companies paying for the seismic work will get first right of refusal on the leases.


48 posted on 04/11/2014 9:11:06 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Alas Babylon!

Absolutely!


49 posted on 04/11/2014 9:11:11 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: mad_as_he$$

You may be right, but do you have any documentation or proof?


50 posted on 04/11/2014 9:11:55 AM PDT by Kackikat
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