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Kiev backpedals on referendums after deadline to stop protest expires
RT ^ | 4-112014 | RT

Posted on 04/11/2014 9:32:51 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Just after a deadline set by Kiev for protesters in eastern Ukraine to vacate seized buildings expired, Parliament-appointed PM Arseny Yatsenyuk pledged to push through a law allowing regional referendums in the country.

Holding referendums on the status of their respective regions was among the main demands posed by anti-Maidan activists, who have taken over a number of governmental buildings in eastern Ukraine this week.

Ukrainian law currently does not allow regions to hold referendums separately from the rest of the country. It was one of the main arguments Kiev voiced in declaring illegal last month’s referendum in Crimea, which ended with the peninsula’s seceding from Ukraine and joining Russia.

Speaking in Donetsk, one of the regions engulfed by the anti-Kiev protests, Yatsenyuk said his government wants greater autonomy for Ukrainian regions, including the abolition of the offices of capital-appointed governors.

He was speaking just as a 48-hour deadline, which Kiev gave to protesters to liberate the seized buildings, expired. Previously the central authorities threatened to use force, including that of the military and even threatened their opponents as terrorists, unless they withdrew from the buildings.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; donetsk; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; ukraine
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To: PGR88
Ukraine is only half a country. Yes, the international community gave it borders, but like Iraq, it was an agglomeration of different peoples and regions, with different cultural attachments.

Compared to most countries the "peoples" (barf) of Ukraine are pretty homologous.


21 posted on 04/11/2014 10:20:55 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: goldstategop

Yugoslavia had Federalism as well, it didn’t save it.


22 posted on 04/11/2014 10:22:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Norm Lenhart
Had our lovely State Dept under Obama leadership, with backing from the McCain/Grhamm wing of the rinos not stuck our noses where they had no business, the Ukraine situation never would have happened as it did...if at all.

Obama has done very little in Ukraine.

This is really not about Obama.

23 posted on 04/11/2014 10:22:54 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

You should do some reading about the State Dept actions over there leading up to this. They are far from innocent bystanders and Berry calls their shots.

I don’t like it either, what happens in our name. But it does indeed happen.


24 posted on 04/11/2014 10:24:53 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: tcrlaf

Are you sure they’re not just using the tweets as the basis of their report?


25 posted on 04/11/2014 10:30:17 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Obama and his guy Yats are in it to give Russia what they want.

You should do some reading on what Obama and Yats are doing.

26 posted on 04/11/2014 10:31:31 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I have. they are doing what they always do. Play both sides for personal benefit. Or Liberal benefit.


27 posted on 04/11/2014 10:33:33 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Navy Patriot

That’s not my point. When someone points out that RT is Russian state-owned propaganda, the response by the Borscht Brigade is that “it’s important to hear both sides (paraphrasing),” and “anyway, but MSNBC. But when someone posts something from MSNBC, you never hear “it’s important to hear both sides,” and “but Russia Today.”


28 posted on 04/11/2014 10:38:36 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf
"RT ^ | 4-112014 | RT
Posted on April 11, 2014 10:32:51 AM MDT by tcrlaf
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Wikipedia
Rossiya Segodnya (official name: Federal State Unitary Enterprise International Information Agency Rossiya Segodnya; from Russian: Россия Сегодня, Russia Today) is the official Russian government owned international news agency founded by presidential decree on 9 December 2013. Rossiya Segodnya incorporates the former RIA Novosti news service and the Voice of Russia international radio service (formerly Radio Moscow).

Why Russia should sell weapons to Iran and Syria
RIA Novosti (Russian state-owned outlet) ^ | 08AUG07 |
Marianna Belenkaya, Russian Government
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878354/posts


29 posted on 04/11/2014 10:39:01 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: tcrlaf
Russia calls for banning Judaism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431407/posts

Russia probing whether Jewish law constitutes incitement ["first time since Stalin's regime"]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431367/posts

Russians Respect Reason For Terrorism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210347/posts


30 posted on 04/11/2014 10:42:37 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: 1rudeboy

MSNBC Articles get posted all the time on FR. Do you have ANYTHING at all to add to the basis of the article, other than rants of “Propoganda!”?

Something to counter the points the article makes, perhaps? That is what we do here, after all.


31 posted on 04/11/2014 10:50:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

Sure, reread my comment #3. You ignored it, for all purposes.


32 posted on 04/11/2014 10:52:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

List of journalists killed in Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
(scroll down for list of those recently killed—probably not an up-to-date list)


33 posted on 04/11/2014 10:53:50 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Agreed. The New York Times could counter something that RT reported and the usual RINOS and closet McCain supporters/ uber-interventionists (instead of the CORRECT position: neither interventionist nor isolationist) here would side with the NYT or the Washington Compost, MSDNC, See BS, etc.

RT sometimes has gotten it right, and been followed up by some in the MSM - other times not to on the money.

As with many in the media, verification is necessary.

34 posted on 04/11/2014 10:55:31 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: FreeReign

“Obama has done very little in Ukraine. This is really not about Obama.”
VERY incorrect, and there are numerous articles posted on FR about it.

Russia’s primary concern seems to be to delegitimize the US-supported coup government, at any cost.

This isn’t just about Ukraine. There is a much bigger global game being played here.

If you want to know what that is, pay attention to what Lavrov is saying/has said.


35 posted on 04/11/2014 10:58:34 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It’s pretty sad that an outfit like the NYT can counter the BS that RT reports, if you think about it.


36 posted on 04/11/2014 11:01:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Both RT and The Interpreter have been liveblogging events in Ukraine, often with two opposing viewpoints of the same action.

The Interpreter is carrying more Western reaction.

That said, the point of the article was that Ukraine forces refused to follow orders to attack, and that concessions have been offered.

This person can’t seem to discuss anything, just shout about propaganda. As we know, liberals use that argument style extensively.


37 posted on 04/11/2014 11:03:34 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I was in both print and internet media for over a decade and I assure you that the reason they are called “Stories” is that they are mostly fantasies written to fit the agenda of the editor/publisher.

Someone said it on another thread today but I’ll reinforce it. Do not believe anything written including the word “The”. The only hope people have is reading multiple sources and practically divining the truth from the conglomeration.


38 posted on 04/11/2014 11:05:08 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: tcrlaf
This person can’t seem to discuss anything, just shout about propaganda. As we know, liberals use that argument style extensively.

Nicely done. I merely observed that Russia Today used the word "unconfirmed," and you used the word "confirmed." So your propaganda actually is a magnitude worse than theirs.

39 posted on 04/11/2014 11:09:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

The NYT to a large degree and definitely MSDNC, etc, are mouthpieces and shills for Obama. Everyone at FR knows this.

If Obama is going to counter Putin on Ukraine then you can count on MSDNC and other media organs to counter RT.


40 posted on 04/11/2014 11:11:47 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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