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Cliven Bundy Ranch Dispute: Huge Difference Between Coverage by Conservative and Liberal Me
The Epoch Times ^ | 04/11/2014 | Zachary Stieber

Posted on 04/11/2014 3:47:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

The Cliven Bundy ranch dispute has gained a lot of attention but is getting hugely different coverage from conservative and liberal media outlets.

Bundy is involved in a dispute with federal authorities over cattle grazing northeast of Las Vegas in Nevada.

He says that he has the right to graze his cattle on open range, which currently includes a portion of desert that houses the endangered desert tortoise. His right comes from his Mormon family settling and ranching in the area since the 19th century, he says.

Federal authorities say that cows are trespassing on the arid and fragile habitat and note that Bundy lost federal court cases challenging the roundup and that he was ordered by a federal judge last October not to interfere in any roundup.

Bundy, who represented himself in the court cases, has vowed to do whatever it takes to protect his property. He has characterized the dispute as a “range war.”

Conservative outlets such as Fox News, the Blaze, and InfoWars are highlighting Bundy’s argument and claiming that the government is overreaching with armed federal agents and use of force in the case.

“Nevada Rancher Threatens ‘Range War’ Against Government,” reads one Fox headline. “Cliven Bundy Calls on Sheriff to Start Arresting BLM Feds” reads another article, from InfoWars.

Liberal outlets, meanwhile, are painting Bundy as a lawbreaker who deserves what he’s getting and playing down any use of force.

“The federal government moved some cows and Nevada’s governor isn’t happy about it,” read one headline from the Washington Post. “Cliven Bundy: right-wing extremist domestic terrorist lawbreaker,” reads another article, from Daily Kos.

See an update from The Associated Press that seems to illustrate both sides below.

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bunkerville; demagogicparty; harryreid; memebuilding; neilkornze; nevada; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills

1 posted on 04/11/2014 3:47:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan
It's not about a danged tortoise.

The BLM is killing hundreds of desert tortoises.

Desert tortoise faces threat from its own refuge August 25, 2013

Back at the conservation center, a large refrigerator labeled "carcass freezer" hummed in the desert sun as scientists examined the facility's 1,400 inhabitants to find those hearty enough to release into the wild. Officials expect to euthanize more than half the animals in the coming months in preparation for closure at the end of 2014.

More glaring proof that the FedMob is incapable of managing lands or wildlife.

2 posted on 04/11/2014 3:54:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Are the employees of the MSM covering up for Reid, et al?

Nevadan Named BLM Chief - Senate Confirms Former Reid Adviser

There are plans for another massive "solar" farm debacle and guess what..

seems that "Bundy’s cattle 'impacts' solar development, more specifically the construction of 'utility-scale solar power generation facilities' on 'public lands.'"

Appears that Reid and family benefit by taking the land away from the Bundys. IIRC LBJ stole a major radio & TV station in Austin using his influence over regulatory agencies when he was Majority Leader.

3 posted on 04/11/2014 3:57:02 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; All
Why doesn't the Bundy Ranch just post a huge billboard saying 'WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?'

Hussein would yank Holder/ATF so fast.

Or post a huge sign:

"CT SSN# 042-68-4425 STOLEN"


4 posted on 04/11/2014 3:57:39 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

5 posted on 04/11/2014 4:19:56 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Liberal outlets, meanwhile, are painting Bundy as a lawbreaker who deserves what he’s getting and playing down any use of force.

Funny...I read the same line posted by some here on Free Republic.

6 posted on 04/11/2014 4:20:36 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Jagdgewehr

IMO, if the Sheriff of his county has a valid warrant, then he should arrest Mr. Bundy and let the attorneys fight it out in court. In the meantime, all these BLM rent-a-cop’s need to get their rear ends out of the state and leave the cows, calves and other members of the family alone.

This entire action stinks of Harry Reid and tyrannical actions by the Federal government.

Prayers up for Mr. Bundy, his family and all those brave warriors who are going to stand with them. May God watch over them and keep them safe.

This is about something way more sinister than a bunch of desert animals.


7 posted on 04/11/2014 4:32:00 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I think this Free Range issue reached a near flash point because Rory Reid's client needs to get title to the property in order to get the solar panel farm built in time for the ruling party to crow about it at the Democrat Convention in 2016. Cliven Bundy is expendable and without the publicity and the presence of the media cameras and the protesters would have been dead by now and the BLM SWAT units could have gone home. I am also sure that he will meet with an unfortunate accident sometime in the near future along with a couple of his sons.

I sure wish the BLM would expend a little of that manpower (and dog power) to clean the drug smugglers out of the Vekel and the Sawtooth Mountains here.

8 posted on 04/11/2014 4:37:24 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m getting ready to head for Nevada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


9 posted on 04/11/2014 4:41:55 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If you think the Feds won’t stop at anything to kick you off of land they want, just look into what happened to the five Indian tribes who now inhabit Eastern Oklahoma.


10 posted on 04/11/2014 4:46:37 PM PDT by excalibur21
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It seems that the debate boils down to this:

Should a rancher be allowed to do what he wants to do on land that he doesn’t own, or

Should powerful friends and relatives of the Senate Majority Leader be allowed to do what they want on land that they don’t own.

Sounds like the rancher has got to go. Tough luck for the Desert Tortise and all of the soon to be dead birds as well.


11 posted on 04/11/2014 4:49:54 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The Associated press is objective???


12 posted on 04/11/2014 4:56:49 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: BuckeyeTexan

13 posted on 04/11/2014 5:02:04 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

We are in the middle of a culture war. Expect the Libs to protect the progressive totalitarian way.


14 posted on 04/11/2014 5:02:26 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Go you one better than that. What if Cliven Bundy were black???
15 posted on 04/11/2014 5:03:06 PM PDT by Ron H. (A Ted Cruz and (you fill in the blank here) ticket in 2016)
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To: bandleader
I’m getting ready to head for Nevada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wish I were able to go with you! God bless you all.

16 posted on 04/11/2014 5:07:03 PM PDT by Ron H. (A Ted Cruz and (you fill in the blank here) ticket in 2016)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

For liberals, Conservatives deserve everything that they get..welcome to Obama’s America..they won’t be satisfied til we are all in coffins


17 posted on 04/11/2014 5:09:46 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BuckeyeTexan
“The federal government moved some cows and Nevada’s governor isn’t happy about it,” read one headline from the Washington Post.

It wasn't that long ago that cattle rustling was a serious crime that carried an entirely appropriate penalty. But today, when the Cattle-Rustler-in-Chief orders some cows "moved" so his cronies can make a profit, it's no big deal. Some people are so in the tank for the far left that they don't even pretend to care about reality and the rule of law.

“Cliven Bundy: right-wing extremist domestic terrorist lawbreaker,” reads another article, from Daily Kos.

To progressives, a productive rancher is a "terrorist" even when he refuses to pay a fee that no one should have to pay and hasn't attacked anyone, but Boston Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is dreamy and worthy of a Rolling Stone cover. The far left fringe disgusts me.

18 posted on 04/11/2014 5:17:42 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: centurion316
Well there is a problem with your summation.

The feds don't own the land and have No Right to be chasing anyone away from it. (the land)

He and his family, for generations have been allowed and paid taxes to use the land by the State.

Since it is land .. owned by the State of Nevada, it would fall under the Sheriff's jurisdiction to settle the matter .. Who seems to be missing!?
19 posted on 04/11/2014 5:27:39 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: BuckeyeTexan
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20 posted on 04/11/2014 5:30:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: Pollster1

I don’t care anymore about who is right or wrong under the law. If they don’t have to live under it then why should I? All I know is that I hate these scumbag fed thugs so much I want to invite them to a red wedding.


21 posted on 04/11/2014 5:31:35 PM PDT by The Toll (e)
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To: TigersEye

“The most complete data is from the Beaver Dam Mountains. Woodbury and Hardy reported a tortoise population density of 150 per square mile in 1948. BLM reduced cattle grazing a few years later and eliminated cattle in 1970. Coombs reported a tortoise density of 39 per square mile in 1974. In these 26 years cattle use was reduced 100 percent and tortoise numbers were reduced 74 percent.

“These tortoises were doing so poorly a veterinarian, Dr. Jarchow, was consulted. He reported all six specimens were suffering from osteoporosis caused by a protein deficiency in their diet. Dr. Jarchow examined five specimens from the same mountains that shared their range with cattle. He reported these specimens were all healthy and well nourished.

“The historical record proves conclusively that tortoise thrive when cattle are on the range with them and without cattle grazing they are always malnourished and unhealthy and their numbers plummet.

http://www.vinsuprynowicz.com/?p=80


22 posted on 04/11/2014 5:45:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: tumblindice

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23 posted on 04/11/2014 5:47:44 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Pollster1

I’ve reserved “BuckeyeTexan” on quite a few sites. The Daily Kos is one of them. I was so close to posting a comment entitled “Right-wing extremist domestic terrorist Freeper.” I decided against it. Heh.


24 posted on 04/11/2014 6:01:07 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Yeah, but your facts are wrong. The state doesn’t own the land and Bundy paid grazing fees for years to the federal government (BLM) not the state.


25 posted on 04/11/2014 6:05:02 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
You are citing Bundy's claim which has not been supported by the courts. The courts have held:

As this court previously ruled in United States v. Bundy, Case No. CV-S-98-531-JBR (RJJ) (D. Nev. Nov. 4, 1998), “the public lands in Nevada are the property of the United States because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when Mexico ceded the land to the United States.”

I believe that he does own 160 acres, for the remainder, he has held grazing rights for the public lands, which he does not own. The BLM thinks the plight of the Desert Tortoise trumps his grazing rights, hence the dispute

All of this was an interesting legal dispute until one each Harry Reid became interested in the land for solar farms to be built by Chinese companies represented by his son. He has gotten in Harry Reid's way, he has to go.

I don't think that the federal government has ceded very much of their lands in the West to the states excepting in small amounts for limited purposes. The feds own over 90% of the land in those states, so I don't think that Bundy has a legal land to stand on for his claim that Nevada owns the land. His case is stronger when it comes to the tortoise, especially since these solar farms are a known menace to wildlife, including the desert tortoise. They've been getting along with the cattle for quite some time.

This is political muscle in action. The law is there to let corrupt politicians do what they want.

26 posted on 04/11/2014 6:11:48 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Jagdgewehr

Liberal outlets, meanwhile, are painting Bundy as a lawbreaker who deserves what he’s getting and playing down any use of force.

“Funny...I read the same line posted by some here on Free Republic.”

I noticed that, too. Some wobbly-kneed, so-called conservatives would have joined with the British Crown back in 1774 and insisted that the patriots who dumped tea into Boston Harbor be prosecuted.


27 posted on 04/11/2014 6:18:58 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for posting the background info on that. Last night someone was saying that the tortoises do better when they share habitat with cattle but didn't give a citation.

Looks like the BLM, Harry Reid and the FedMob in general are going to be brought down several pegs over this. The lights are on and there's nowhere for the cockroaches to run this time.

28 posted on 04/11/2014 6:48:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Bundy, who represented himself in the court cases...

Big mistake.

29 posted on 04/11/2014 7:02:34 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"He has characterized the dispute as a “range war.” "

BLM --> "Regulators"

30 posted on 04/12/2014 12:07:21 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

Is there a 12 ga flak round?


31 posted on 04/12/2014 12:10:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: The Toll
"I don’t care anymore about who is right or wrong under the law. If they don’t have to live under it then why should I? "

Traitor Roberts "Legacy".

32 posted on 04/12/2014 12:11:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sarah Barracuda

What makes you think they would go to the expense of providing you with a coffin ? We are talking about folks who in the 20th century had no qualms about standing men women & children at the edge of open mass graves & shooting them in the head.

Make no mistake the leftist in this country would gladly do so & after watching C-span 1,2 & 3 for more than 20 years I truly believe they would find a great many willing executioners in the various federal law enforcement organizations especially the FBI & the DHS who increasingly view the American citizen as an enemy of the state.


33 posted on 04/12/2014 7:02:47 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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