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The Smolensk Plane Crash: Four Years Later
The Institute of World Politics ^ | April 10, 2014 | Dr. Kazimierz Nowaczyk / Paweł Styrna

Posted on 04/11/2014 6:58:09 PM PDT by annalex

Dr. Kazimierz Nowaczyk discusses "The Smolensk Plane Crash: Four Years Later"

April 10, 2014 | KOSCIUSZKO CHAIR

On the eve of the fourth anniversary of the Smolensk Plane Crash-which occurred on April 10, 2010 -- physicist Dr. Kazimierz Nowaczyk delivered a lecture (part of the Intermarium series) on the current state of our knowledge about this aerial disaster.  The lecture took place at The Institute of World Politics in Washington, D.C.  The crash killed the Polish presidential couple and almost a hundred members of that pro-American nation's political and military elite as they flew to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the genocidal Soviet massacre of the Polish elite at Katyn, which -- rather ominously -- occurred quite close to the crash site.

Dr. Nowaczyk reminded the audience of the role of the Russian air traffic controllers, who misled the Polish pilots by telling them that they were "on the right course." He also emphasized that the Russian rescue units arrived at the crash site very late -- about 27 minutes after the disaster. At the same time, the elite Spetsnaz special forces were in the area from the beginning. The physicist also remarked that the thick fog that has become the subject of arguments about Smolensk, was present only around the Severnyi Airport area, but not much farther away that its vicinity.

A key piece of evidence to note, he pointed out, is the fragmentation of the Soviet-built Tupolev aircraft and the dispersal of these pieces over a large area. Polish archeologists found approximately 60,000 such fragments at the crash site, which is much more than other cases of aviation accidents caused by explosions. In the case of Smolensk, Dr. Nowaczyk argued that at least "two internal explosions" occurred. 

In addition, Dr. Nowaczyk argued that we should remember that the post-Soviet Russians brazenly contaminated and desecrated the crash site and the evidence. The wreckage was further torn apart using tools and machinery. Windows, which could contain evidentiary material, were smashed. The pieces of the fuselage were moved to the Severnyi tarmac and exposed to the effects of the weather. Other pieces were moved around the crash site, such as the left stabilizer, which was shifted about 20 meters based on satellite photos from April 11-12, 2010. Even top soil was moved around and trees cut down.

Furthermore, the Russians continue to hold on to the black box -- which is legally the property of the Republic of Poland -- and have tampered with that evidence as well. The Poles were only given copies, which -- as it turned out -- were missing the last seconds of a crucial minute, which were apparently erased. What these copies do nevertheless show is abrupt violent movement right before the crash.

What is more, the traces of the aircraft on the ground are consistent neither with the Russian-generated MAK Report, nor the official Warsaw report, both of which subscribe to the "pilot error/birch tree" narrative. Yet, as Dr. Nowaczyk pointed out, the infamous "iron birch" -- whatever its actual maximum height -- was located below the location of the aircraft at the time that it supposedly struck the tree. However, even if the plane -- which was traveling at the approximate speed of 270 kilometers (168 miles) per hour -- had actually hit the birch, it would have sliced through it quite easily. This was demonstrated by Dr. Wiesław Binienda's famous LS DYNA simulation, which -- as Dr. Nowaczyk pointed out -- multiplied the hardness of the tree by a factor of ten. The birch tree was thus clearly not the culprit of the disaster.

Dr. Nowaczyk's presentation showed that sufficient evidence exists to revisit the Smolensk Plane Crash -- especially in the current geopolitical environment. 

Paweł Styrna 

Please click here to view Dr. Nowaczyk's PowerPoint presentation: Download file Smolensk: Four Years Later, Nowaczyk  

Dr. Kazimierz Nowaczyk, April 2014

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
See video at source.

Also see the 2010 comments, when it still seemed that the Russian Federation was a responsible member of the international community:

Chodakiewicz comments on Poland's recent tragedy.

1 posted on 04/11/2014 6:58:09 PM PDT by annalex
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To: A.A. Cunningham; AlexW; andyk; BatGuano; bayliving; Belteshazzar; bert; Bibman; Bigg Red; ...

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2 posted on 04/11/2014 6:58:55 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

I recall seeing a video that a local farmer or someone took of spetnaz walking through the wreckage shooting survivors.

Anyone hear anything on this?

3 posted on 04/11/2014 7:05:07 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: annalex
right wing, monarchy, paleolibertarianism and nationalism ping list

Covering a lot of ground there, fella. :)

4 posted on 04/11/2014 7:07:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: annalex

Do the Polish have something against powerpoint?

All jokes aside, it is an interesting, if very dry, presentation. I love how awkward he is. Reminds me of some of the physicists I worked with at MD Anderson.

5 posted on 04/11/2014 7:12:34 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Bulwyf

This video?

6 posted on 04/11/2014 7:16:23 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Bulwyf

Yes, I remember about the gun shots; this is the video link I found and post on FR:

7 posted on 04/11/2014 7:22:37 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Bulwyf; drunknsage; TurkeyLurkey
See the links others posted.

Drunknsage, TurkeyLurkey -- thanks.

8 posted on 04/11/2014 7:29:16 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: drunknsage

There are many intelligent people who have something against Powerpoint.

PowerPoint Is Evil
Power Corrupts.
PowerPoint Corrupts Absolutely.
By Edward Tufte

9 posted on 04/11/2014 7:31:05 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: drunknsage

ya, that’s the one, I can’t really tell, it’s not clearly evident, but it sure seems damning.

I know poles personally who fully think the Russians did this on purpose.

10 posted on 04/11/2014 7:38:29 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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I thought there were 3 black boxes on the plane: 2 Russian and 1 Polish. The Polish one was a different system and couldn’t be “read” in Russia. From what I recall it was sent to Poland and the data jived with what was on the Russian FDR.

11 posted on 04/11/2014 8:50:25 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: Bulwyf

Not surprising since the Russians previously perpetrated the Katyn Forest massacre, with the same purpose in mind: decapitate Poland’s leadership class.

12 posted on 04/12/2014 5:59:25 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

Well, I think Poland has both eyes wide open now, and the people there all think the same thing, regardless of how it went down.

They’re a good people from the ones I’ve met and they value freedom. They know what it’s like to have tyranny.

13 posted on 04/12/2014 6:10:23 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

IIRC, Poland doesn’t have much of a Muslim problem, not like UK & Denmark. Could be that Jan Sobieski still influences Polish thought away from PC kumbaya about muzzies.

14 posted on 04/12/2014 6:26:29 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

Yes, I’d say most Polish have long memories and can remember Vienna.

15 posted on 04/12/2014 7:04:20 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

I recall that video as well.

16 posted on 04/12/2014 8:11:03 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: elcid1970
Poland doesn’t have much of a Muslim problem

No country in East Europe has a Muslim immigration problem and all have governments with a reasonably nationalistic streak, or better. (Bulgaria has a native Turkish population). Also, most of them, if not all, had some form of anti-Communist lustration implemented. One exception is the Russian Federation, which is still run by a KGB colonel and the second generation of the Soviet era ruling class are now in charge. The result is uncontrollable Muslim immigration into Russia from the neighboring former USSR republics, a ban on national issues discussed in political context, and absence of any administrative or political entity that has the interests of the Russian nation in mind. This condition results in the Russians by and large remaining within the prison of Soviet mentality, where national success is measured not in advancement of the Russian nation in demographic, cultural or economic terms, but in military aggression against the neighboring nations that have broken free.

17 posted on 04/12/2014 9:19:27 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Ten years ago I was deployed to Uzbekistan. Even then we knew that up to a third of the Uzbek population was in Russia either working or looking for work. But recent photos out of Moscow (not Tashkent, not Kazan or Baku) show enormous crowds of Muslim men and they are mostly Uzbeks with the square kufi caps.

Strangely, the Uzbeks I spoke to at our base near Karshi were secular & admired anything Russian, spoke Russian, & listened to Russian pop. One of them said, “Thirty years ago my Uzbek grandmother was wearing miniskirts, drinking vodka, & listening to the Rolling Stones”.

It’s the Chechens who are the main threat inside the Russian federation. Nobody speaks well of them & the Dagestanis seem to going terrorist as well.

18 posted on 04/12/2014 11:49:00 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970
Yes: at least in the 70's and early 80's many -- hard to say how many, but that was the impression, -- many of the Muslims in Uzbekistan, possible in other Muslim republics would tell me that they appreciated it that the Soviet system gave them modernity: secular education, women's rights etc. All the came through to them from Russia and they really viewed Russia as a successful empire should be viewed: as a senior partner of whom the minor partner learns the wider culture.

But it is hard to say how much of this opinion was in itself a product of atheist indoctrination. The fact is that once the "king" was shown to have no clothes, religious consciousness poured in and in the case of Asia and North Caucuses it happened to be a radical Islamic militant religion. My impression is that the Uzbek in general are milder in temperament than some others: merchants not warriors.

The uncontrolled immigration to Russian big cities is not so much a terrorist problem but simply an irritating cultural presence; that creates tension on the every-day life level. for example, the Russians are not exactly appreciative of the custom to drop down in the middle of the street, block traffic and pray to Mecca, while sheep are being slaughtered in the side alleys. Certainly it slows down the schools where a Russian kid is now next to a kid who barely understands the language. The legal environment often sides with the immigrant because the immigrant is ethnic minority and so can do no wrong. Stuff like what we can easily imagine in America as well, where also there is no legal protection for natural-born citizens.

19 posted on 04/12/2014 7:08:08 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

“My impression is that the Uzbek in general are milder in temperament than some others: merchants not warriors.”

That is exactly the impression I got during my deployment to Uzbekistan in 2003-04. We Yanks were agreed that the Uzbeks were our kind of Muslim; more interested in bettering their own lot than in jihad, deeply suspicious of the nearby Afghans, ready to accept a hospitality gift of Russian vodka, and regarded our interest in Uzbek history as a genuine liking of their culture.

I ran a welding & machine shop. Uzbek employees were Russian-like in their admiration for technology that could fabricate anything from sheet steel or bar stock.

Terrorist acts by the IMU happened in faraway Tashkent & were the work of dissatisfied extremists, so we were told.

Not a bad place for deployment, at all. Too bad we were kicked out of there in 2005 thanks to the idiots in our State Department concernng the Andijon incident earlier that year.

20 posted on 04/12/2014 8:56:11 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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