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Representative Paul Ryan at Iowa Republican Dinner
Politico ^ | 4/12/2014 | Jake Sherman

Posted on 04/12/2014 5:19:49 AM PDT by iowamark

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa – Rep. Paul Ryan is having his “I-told-you-so” moment.

During a speech here to the Iowa Republican Party, on his second trip back to the Hawkeye State since losing in 2012, Ryan said that one reason he and Republican nominee Mitt Romney couldn’t top President Barack Obama was they had to “shadow box against big government in theory.”

Now, Ryan said, Americans have “big government in practice, and the theory is a whole lot different than what it looks like in practice.”

“We kept trying to say this is what Obamacare is going to do, this is what Dodd-Frank,” will do, Ryan said. “The challenge was it was sort of our word against theirs. Because they did not put their program in practice yet.”

He also said it was a “bitter irony” that the president proposed cuts to the military the same week Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.

Presidential politics is king here, but Iowa is one of the most crucial states in November’s midterm elections. Sen. Tom Harkin’s (D-Iowa) retirement gave Republicans one of their best pickup opportunities, and two House seats will be open.

Ryan waded into the contentious Senate race, taking a shot at Democratic candidate Rep. Bruce Braley. At a closed fundraiser, Braley spoke derisively about Sen. Chuck Grassley’s (R-Iowa) agricultural background, questioning whether he’s qualified to become the chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: paulryan
C-SPAN video of the event at:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?318804-1/rep-paul-ryan-addresses-iowa-republicans

1 posted on 04/12/2014 5:19:50 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

He’s a waste of time. He had a chance to make his mark on the national stage and accomplished nothing.


2 posted on 04/12/2014 5:21:27 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Why a waste of time? Romney was the candidate,not Ryan.


3 posted on 04/12/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane

Because it was Paul Ryan himself who AGREED WITH JOE BIDEN that INDEED BUSH WAS RESPONSIBLE for the economic problems…..that Biden and Obama “inherited” a bad situation - so when he did that, he did not even SHADOW BOX against big government in theory, let alone practice.

Ryan lost me at that moment. I never for a moment thought he won that debate with Biden, even tho so many talk radio types and con pundits assured us he did. No, he lost it in the early stages with that idiocy.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 5:27:08 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

1 poor answer in 1 vp debate, in which many people thought he won disqualifies him?

Lol.


5 posted on 04/12/2014 5:29:57 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane

Wake up! Did he not co-author the bill that started cutting the Military pensions all while giving freebies to illegals?

How about transgressions against conservatism like this current budget he proposed that keeps spending and supposedly hamstrings future Congresses to do the heavy lifting of cutting, not reducing spending increases? All the while knowing that any future Congress has no restrictions on scrapping his magic beans plan at any time to do a redo and keep the gravy train going.

How many FReepers can add to the list? Your pings list is gonna be very full of examples very soon.


6 posted on 04/12/2014 5:38:50 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Tulane
1 poor answer in 1 vp debate, in which many people thought he won disqualifies him?

Shallow thinkers shouldn't be LOLing around a forum….it is not becoming. And I don't know what your "disqualify" comment is about…disqualify for what? And it wasn't just ONE answer in ONE debate - it was Paul Ryan's biggest moment, and he fed the big lie that turned the election more than any other lie - that BUSH and REPUBLICANS were the problem with the economy. The percentage of people who believe that is almost exactly the percentage of people who voted Obama…..ON THE DING DONG NOSE.

So I stand by my very correct assertion that Ryan and Romney blew the debate about what liberalism would do, because our economy was already proof positive of that in 2012. But they were not man enough to try and fight that fight. They thought they could niche their way to 270 electoral votes simply because Obama was a "nice guy who was over his head" when it came to fixing Bush problems.

7 posted on 04/12/2014 5:40:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Agree. Crazy Joe Biden dominated this clown in the debate. I heard the spin afterwards and I wondered if these people saw the same debate I did.

I don’t like Paul Ryan and won’t vote for the wuss. Even Mitt was a far better candidate than Ryan. Ryan was a bad choice then and he would be in the future.


8 posted on 04/12/2014 5:54:18 AM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

You and me both…..I was mortified….and wondered as you did what debate did these folks watch?

And as Rush said, when he saw exit polling which confirmed that 53% of voters still blamed Bush for the economy, that it was over. And it was, and that issue is why, and Ryan deserves a lot of blame for that misperception. McCain’s 08 campaign set the stage for it, and Romney-Ryans pathetic strategy cemented it.


9 posted on 04/12/2014 6:01:17 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: iowamark
At the time, I thought Ryan was a brilliant choice for Romney because of way Ryan PWNED Obama when they were debating in 2010. I thought we finally had a FIGHTER who would oppose Obama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1yTY2MciOk

Imagine my disappointment when Ryan showed himself to be another namby-pamby, sissy-boy, inside-the-beltway, Unger-In-The-Longest-Yard Republican during the 2012 campaign.

Our next nominee needs to be a Governor (someone with executive experience), someone under 60 years old (no more old farts), and a Tea Party Conservative (wimpy GOP-e's will go along with us if we show them our Pimp Hand).

10 posted on 04/12/2014 6:10:02 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: iowamark

Paul Ryan is a lightweight mediocre bureaucrat creature who kisses up to the GOPe.

He needs to go away.


11 posted on 04/12/2014 6:13:20 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: iowamark
“We kept trying to say this is what Obamacare is going to do, ..."

Therein lies the problem with the GOP: trying to say.

The GOP just does not seem to know how to get out their message, or their message is just muddled and unsaleable.

The same ole 'smaller government, lower taxes, fewer regulations' rhetoric just does not work, because people are smart enough to realize it is nothing but political rhetoric -- thanks in great part of Open-Checkbook GWBush and his bailouts.

The GOP needs to hire different consultants, consultant who have a feel for things outside the beltway.

And Ryan has the same problem as many of the GOP -- pushing amnesty. How is the GOP trying to hoist unpopular amnesty on the American people any different than Obama hoisting unpopular Obamacare on the American people? Both indicate deaf representation in Washington.
12 posted on 04/12/2014 6:40:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: iowamark

Ryan’s love-in with Patty Murray, bless her heart, was reminiscent of Newt Gingrich siting on the sofa with Nancy Pelosi, crooning about the environment. Any “conservative” who displays such poor judgment should automatically be dropped for consideration as presidential material.


13 posted on 04/12/2014 7:18:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: iowamark

He’s really an ‘90s type Dem. His budgets still increase spending and he wants amnesty. The GOP will soon be dead with open borders.
Remember, he did vote for auto and bank bail-outs.
All he’s for is a slower version of Cloward-Piven.


14 posted on 04/12/2014 7:27:43 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
No man of honor would have accepted a slot on the Romney ticket.
15 posted on 04/12/2014 7:30:07 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Tulane; C. Edmund Wright
1 poor answer in 1 vp debate, in which many people thought he won disqualifies him?

Sometimes, one poor answer in a debate is enough. Just ask Gerry Ford.

However, in the VP debate between Ryan and Biden, Ryan made numerous poor answers, the most egregious of which was to give away the 47% issue:
Mitt Romney's a good man. He cares about 100 percent of Americans in this country. And with respect to that quote [Romney's 47% quote], I think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way.

2012 election over right there.
16 posted on 04/12/2014 8:51:30 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Paul Ryan the small government candidate who still cannot bring himself to name even one unecessary govt agency he could bear to shut down.


17 posted on 04/12/2014 8:51:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Dahoser

Nothing in a vp debate wins or loses a presidential election. To suggest otherwise is silly.


18 posted on 04/12/2014 9:12:37 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: C. Edmund Wright

That debate had nothing to do with the election loss. Zero.


19 posted on 04/12/2014 9:15:08 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane

Hardly. Ryan’s apology gave away the 47% issue. It told the Obama team that they could use it against Romney with impunity. And they did.


20 posted on 04/12/2014 9:19:51 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Tulane

Let me type slowly so you can follow along….I am only talking about the debate because it was EXEMPLARY OF HOW THEY RAN THEIR ENTIRE DADBURN CAMPAIGN!!!! WHAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OVER YOUR HEAD ABOUT THAT?

And second, I reject the premise that the debate had nothing to do with it. A campaign is a series of many events - they all matter - to one degree or another. If you can’t see that, then you don’t know anything about politics and I would suggest a knitting or crochet forum and not a political one.


21 posted on 04/12/2014 9:24:39 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Hostage; Tulane; Liz
Paul Lyin Ryan lost me at his pairing up with Rep Luis "amnesty" Gutierrez...


22 posted on 04/12/2014 9:28:31 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long

That is a fair critique


23 posted on 04/12/2014 2:48:57 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: C. Edmund Wright

1) the vice president has next to zero input in how the campaign is waged
2) critiquing Ryan for how Romney chose to run shows your naïveté
3). Stick with the all caps. It suits you.


24 posted on 04/12/2014 2:51:09 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane
If that's the best you got - you are way out of your league - not only in basic reading comprehension, but certainly in understanding politics.You sound like some formulaic failed GOP consultant with your little pat talking points.

I'll send you a free copy if you want. You need it:


25 posted on 04/12/2014 4:15:49 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Lol. That’s what I thought.


26 posted on 04/12/2014 7:43:02 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: MuttTheHoople
Our next nominee needs to be ... someone under 60 years old (no more old farts) ...

Because "old farts" are so... what, old? Un-young? Out of touch? Yesterday's news? Senile? Wrinkly?

27 posted on 04/14/2014 11:23:15 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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