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EPA coal rules leaving US vulnerable to power blackouts?
Fox ^ | 4-12-14 | Mike Emanuel

Posted on 04/12/2014 7:14:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Facing the Obama administration's so-called "war on coal," some utility officials are warning that fewer coal-fired power plants could leave the U.S. power system vulnerable to blackouts in the near future.

The officials warn that intense summer heat or extreme winter cold could soon be too much for the system to handle.

"I worry about the potential of brownouts and blackouts if we're ... actually depending on this generation that's going to be retired," Nick Akins, from American Electric Power, told Fox News in an interview.

Pro-coal advocates say the administration's focus on its environmental agenda challenges the reliability of the nation's power grid.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackouts; coal; energy; epa
If you like your lights, you can keep them.
1 posted on 04/12/2014 7:14:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Obama/enviro-whackos doing a happy dance.


2 posted on 04/12/2014 7:17:52 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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To: Qiviut

There’s no wacko like an eco-wacko where logic and common sense has taken a permanent vacation


3 posted on 04/12/2014 7:20:21 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: TurboZamboni

when the blackouts start happening (and they WILL happen). Who do you think the liberals will blame? The environmental nutcases that caused this mess? or the “evil/greedy energy companies”?


4 posted on 04/12/2014 7:22:38 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: dennisw

Glad I put back the funds to upgrade our backup generator to a much larger, electric start model.


5 posted on 04/12/2014 7:23:17 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: TurboZamboni

“If you like your rolling brownouts, you can keep your rolling brownouts.” “Period.” MwaaaaHaaaaHaaaaHaaa! Zis iz goink juzt az I planned.


6 posted on 04/12/2014 7:24:24 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: TurboZamboni

Fire up the coal burners. Run the coal trains. Look at how many Feds it takes to stop one guy from grazing cattle. Give the People a reason to fight!


7 posted on 04/12/2014 7:24:38 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: TurboZamboni

Mitch McConnel has ads on during Rush every day pitching his I’m the savior of coal message into South East Kentucky a hundred miles to the north of the East Tennessee radio stations.

The ads are very good and deliver a strong message that incumbency has power. It is strange to be involved in Kentucky politics here.


8 posted on 04/12/2014 7:26:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: TurboZamboni

As king, obamination will never have to be worried about having no power.


9 posted on 04/12/2014 7:30:30 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: dennisw

This is frustrating, because it’s all about worshiping at the altar of mother earth and all that. I think the most extreme are in favor of rolling blackouts and brownouts. They want us to use less power to fight global warming. They don’t care about the fallout from their policies.


10 posted on 04/12/2014 7:30:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: TurboZamboni
EPA coal rules --leaving-- engineered so US vulnerable to power blackouts.
11 posted on 04/12/2014 7:32:58 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Welcome to the new paradigm.

Of course the Evil Power Companies (who refused to convert to pixie dust and unicorn poop as fuel sources) are to blame, EVERYBODY knows that!

And incidentally, they are all Republicans and funded by the Koch brothers.

It is no longer a matter of money to these people. Unless it is too much of somebody else’s money being spent the “wrong” way.


12 posted on 04/12/2014 7:39:48 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: TurboZamboni
The sun's magnetic field is in decline...so less sunspots are formed...expect no new sunspots around 2016/2017.

We all going to need all that electricity when the next ice age kicks in at that time.

13 posted on 04/12/2014 7:49:41 AM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: dennisw

I’ll have to disagree. There was never any resident logic or common sense to take a vacation.


14 posted on 04/12/2014 8:09:53 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Lurker
Glad I put back the funds to upgrade our backup generator to a much larger, electric start model.

LoUQ - When every house has its own generator, will that lower CO2 emissions ?

15 posted on 04/12/2014 8:11:23 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: TurboZamboni

“If you like your lights, you can keep them”

But just in case get a generator or a solar system installed. :-)


16 posted on 04/12/2014 8:28:02 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TurboZamboni

This is believable. There are many times this winter I saw the MISO map reflect high power prices over the entire eastern US. That’s probably because of shutting down coal plants in the east instead of trying to meet new NOx standards.

https://www.misoenergy.org/LMPContourMap/MISO_All.html


17 posted on 04/12/2014 8:32:36 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: alloysteel

Trying to have a conversation with a ‘tree hugger’ is truly the finest experience of wrestling with a pig.

I had this unfortunate experience last week, with my niece and her whacked out boyfriend. This generation is completely and utterly brainwashed. No amount of facts or honest questioning would move them off their position.

They sadly are hypocrites as are all mother earth worshipers. I say ship ‘em all to a 3rd world country and let them experience what living without is really all about.


18 posted on 04/12/2014 8:36:32 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: TurboZamboni

Shutting down 25% of our generating capacity might endanger power reliability? Oh, come on. What a stupid thought. Of course it wouldn’t. Everybody knows power comes from the outlets on the wall. What does coal have to do with that?

Just like not building any serious new water infrastructure in California in 55 years would lead to water shortages after the population doubles. What a silly notion.


19 posted on 04/12/2014 8:43:31 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Dilbert San Diego
This is frustrating, because it’s all about worshiping at the altar of mother earth and all that. I think the most extreme are in favor of rolling blackouts and brownouts. They want us to use less power to fight global warming. They don’t care about the fallout from their policies.

Eco-wackos with gubbermint jobs could care less. In fact they might be out of a job (theoretically) if they don't dream up more stupid eco-regulations that eff up your life and hobble our economy. Why would they care when they have that fat Federale paycheck rolling in every two weeks

Rule #1 in Washington DC is "It's all about gettin' paid"   and they don't get paid unless they over-regulate and ruin our power generating situation and other parts of our economy. They are few idealists in DC and 99% mercenaries who are out to get paid, and damn the American people

We have a war and its Washington DC vs the American people in flyover country

20 posted on 04/12/2014 9:18:30 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“They don’t care about the fallout from their policies.”

The elites are insulated from the fallout of their policies. Al Gore flies around the planet on petroleum wasting private jets. He is then chauffeured to his conferences and speaking engagements in gas guzzling armored limousines surrounded by gun toting bodyguards.

When the brownouts become common in urban areas electric utilities will be ordered by the feds to inflict the pain on the sprawling suburbs and not the urban core.

I have a liberal acquaintance who wants the government to force utilities to shut down all fossil fuel and nuclear power plants and replace them with solar power. When I suggest the billions this will cost will be passed on to the customers of the utilities in the form of much higher bills he assures me the government can force the shareholders to foot the bill so the customers won’t have to pay. When I ask him how solar farms will provide power at night he tells me windmills will provide power at night. When I ask what happens when the wind isn’t blowing at night he looks at me like I’m an idiot.

There are too many sheep today, educated in public schools, who believe what the propagandists in the media and any Democrat government tell them. They are incapable of reasoning on their own. They see no hypocrisy in the behavior of wealthy Democrats while they chant the talking points on the evil Koch brothers. Unfortunately, the republic cannot survive when fools control the ballot box.


21 posted on 04/12/2014 9:21:15 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Bush’s fault!


22 posted on 04/12/2014 9:41:54 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: TurboZamboni

For a price with Obama nothing moves with out $$$$$ tied to it.


23 posted on 04/12/2014 9:44:12 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: TurboZamboni
The Obama administration has solved the electricity problem.

24 posted on 04/12/2014 12:07:20 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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