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True the Vote president calls Cummings damning emails ‘the tip of a very ugly iceberg’
BIZPAC Review ^ | 4-12-2014 | Michael Dorstewitz

Posted on 04/12/2014 8:04:39 AM PDT by smoothsailing

April 12, 2014

True the Vote president calls Cummings damning emails ‘the tip of a very ugly iceberg’

by Michael Dorstewitz

The explosive discovery by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that its ranking Democratic member coordinated with the IRS to target True the Vote came as no surprise to its founder and president. She called it “the tip of a very ugly iceberg.”

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., the committee’s chairman, released emails earlier this week strongly suggesting that Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., was in direct communication with disgraced IRS supervisor Lois Lerner in an effort to target True the Vote’s non-profit application.

In an interview with Newsmax, Catherine Engelbrecht, president of True the Vote, a Texas-based conservative organization founded to combat election fraud, said this week’s disclosure gives proof to her earlier claims.

“I’m thrilled to see that these documents are seeing the light of day and my current hope is that we continue on in this discovery process because we’re only beginning to see what I believe is the tip of a very ugly iceberg,” she said.

Through her attorney, Cleta Mitchell, Engelbrecht filed a complaint in February alleging that Cummings was pushing an investigation against True the Vote. He called those charges “absolutely incorrect and untrue” at the time. The emails Issa released this week directly contradict that claim.

“Now we find out from these emails released that in fact our request for an investigation really is well placed because [Cummings] was, and his staff, they were having communications with the IRS about True the Vote,” Mitchell said in the joint Newsmax interview with her client.

Newsmax reported:

Mitchell said the similarities between questions asked of True the Vote by Cummings staffers and IRS officials at separate junctures strongly suggested inappropriate coordination between Cummings and the IRS. Engelbrecht said holding Cummings accountable is important, but the issue goes far beyond him.

“To whatever extent there can be disciplinary action taken, we need to be very serious about taking them, but make no mistake, Elijah Cummings, though very important at this juncture of this discovery in this investigation, is just one of what I believe will be quite an extensive cast of characters that will point to a much vigor, much more orchestrated effort to target and silence private citizens,” Engelbrecht said. “He’s just one of many.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: california; catherineengelbrecht; cletamitchell; cummingsrico; cummingsvslaw; darrellissa; electionfraudrico; elijahcummings; impeachnow; irs; irsrico; loislerner; maryland; truethevote
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1 posted on 04/12/2014 8:04:39 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Ms. Engelbrecht is the most courageous and brave woman in America today. Thank God for her efforts.


2 posted on 04/12/2014 8:08:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: smoothsailing

It really doesn’t matter because America is under a communists Democrat dictatorship. We are headed to a civil war and it is about to start. Shame of America and shame on millions of Americans that are no better than the communists themselves. Cummings is a criminal.


3 posted on 04/12/2014 8:09:50 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

You said it really doesn’t matter, and then the rest of your statement proves it DOES matter. Do you not see this procedure as very likely a part of the civil war you are talking about. What you are talking about was advanced 5 years this week with the Engelbrecht affair and the BLM in Nevada.

It really does matter. It all matters. Who knows what will be “the straw” that breaks the back….but it all matters and it all adds up.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 8:13:56 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Englebrecht is a hero! And Cleta Mitchell is awesome.


5 posted on 04/12/2014 8:15:22 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: smoothsailing

Shouldn’t Cummings, at the very least, be temporarily removed from his seat on the oversight committee investigating the IRS targeting matter?

I dont know who, but somebody needs to aggressively folow up on this. If Cummings goes down, he’ll bring Lois down with him.


6 posted on 04/12/2014 8:15:31 AM PDT by uncitizen (Impeach the Communist Already!)
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To: smoothsailing

Issa may, but only may, have finally grown a pair and smacked Elijah down - whatever the cause, dear Elijah has gone very quiet. Lovely!


7 posted on 04/12/2014 8:16:02 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: smoothsailing; GOPJ; sickoflibs; ken5050; justiceseeker93; Libloather; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; ...
Newsmax reported: the similarities between questions asked of True the Vote by Cummings staffers and IRS officials at separate junctures strongly suggested inappropriate coordination between Cummings and the IRS. Engelbrecht said holding Cummings accountable is important, but the issue goes far beyond him.

This is an outrage. No question---the Cummings/ IRS paper trail of demeaning and subjugating conservatives leads straight to the WH criminals.

Giddy w/ success at winning the WH, the malevolent Chicago criminals had big plans---they started making ominous threats from the getgo.


8 posted on 04/12/2014 8:18:03 AM PDT by Liz
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To: smoothsailing

Don’t mess with Texas women. It would be sweet to see ‘Ol Bullet Head take one in the shorts.


9 posted on 04/12/2014 8:18:46 AM PDT by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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To: uncitizen

If that happens it would be a miracle. Demonkrats are never removed or told to stand down. They will do what they have to, to keep the corruption going.


10 posted on 04/12/2014 8:19:24 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: uncitizen
Shouldn’t Cummings, at the very least, be temporarily removed from his seat on the oversight committee investigating the IRS targeting matter?

His race card is fully charged...it gives him a pass...

Minority leader Pelosi, should ask him to remove himself...

Yes, that was a joke...

11 posted on 04/12/2014 8:19:41 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: All
We dont need no steenken' AG Holder to get to the bottom of this.

Ace lawyer Cleta Mitchell--representing True The Vote---should subpoena every official document filed by Lois Lerner and Elijah Cummings. Every document needs to be scrutinized in conjunction w/ possible connections to IRS terrorism-targeting, orders from Obama, favors from Obama, financial emoluments, govt fraud, etc.

Perjury, forgery, and voter fraud need to be considered. For example: Obama cheerleaders Lerner/Cummings might have coached voters to lie on registration forms, and perhaps falsified candidacy papers.

Falsifying Official Public Documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......can also involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents. Falsifying documents is usually done in connection with broader criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, financing terrorism........

A person (or persons) can be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958. ///Apparently Issa has info that Cummings and Lerner corresponded.

If the allegations can be proven, IRS/Lerner and Democrat Cummings faces VERY serious charges of getting unauthorized access to confidential Federal Taxpayer Information (FTI), a violation that could land them in jail-----and if they colluded to obtain numbers of FTI's from Conservative 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) groups--that could involve other serious crimes.

If Elijah does, in fact, possess unauthorized tax documents obtained through conspiracy and collusion, and if he distributed the illegally-held documents to other "interested parties" (perhaps in Congress), charges of aiding and abetting could also be involved.

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ALL OF THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL One of the Articles of Impeachment drawn up against Richard Nixon was merely "threatening" to use the Internal Revenue Service to selectively audit political opponents.

OBAMA HAS WEAPONIZED THE IRS AGAINST POLITICAL OPPONENTS ordering multiple covert campaigns of intimidation, threats, and persecution of tea party/conservative organizations, and those daring to criticize Obama's agenda.

<><> Seven lock-stepping Democrats scared-***tless of losing their seats ask the IRS to “Investigate” political opponents,

<><> Rep Elijah Cummings led the Democrat pack in smearing True the Vote patriot Catherine Englebrecht....

<><> the FBI, ATF, the IRS, and OSHA were sicced on Catherine Englebrecht, as she valiantly tried to improve the US voting system.

<><> Obama said Tea Parties were a "threat to democracy."

<><> The IRS (a tax-funded L/E agency) takes its marching orders from Democrat;

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THE LIKELY SUSPECTS----DEMS STOOP TO CONQUEUR
order IRS to act to save their seats by Alexander Bolton, The Hill, 2/13/14

Senate Democrats facing tough elections this year want the IRS to play a more aggressive role in regulating outside groups expected to spend millions of dollars on their races. In the wake of the IRS targeting scandal, the Democrats are publicly prodding the agency instead of lobbying them directly.

Dems are also careful to say the IRS should treat conservative and liberal groups equally, but they’re concerned about an impending tidal wave of attack ads funded by GOP-allied organizations. Much of the funding for those groups is secret, in contrast to the donations lawmakers collect, which must be reported publicly.

One of the most powerful groups is Americans for Prosperity, funded by the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch. It has already spent close to $30 million on ads attacking Democrats this election cycle.

“If they’re claiming the tax relief, the tax benefit to be a nonprofit for social relief or social justice, then that’s what they should be doing,” said Sen. Mark Begich (D), who faces a competitive race in Alaska. “If it’s to give them cover so they can do political activity, that’s abusing the tax code. And either side."

Asked if the IRS should play a more active role policing political advocacy by groups that claim to be focused on social welfare, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) responded, “Absolutely. Both on the left and the right,” she said. “As taxpayers, we should not be providing a write-off to groups to do political activity, and that’s exactly what we’re doing.”

Shaheen called the glut of political spending by self-described social welfare groups that qualify under section 501(c) (4) of the tax code “outrageous.” Shaheen is in a good position now but could find herself embroiled in a tight campaign if former Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass) challenges her.

Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.), the most vulnerable Democratic incumbent, said the IRS has jurisdiction over 501(c)(4) groups, as well as charities, which fall under section 5/01(c)(3) of the tax code and sometimes engage in quasi-political activity.

“That whole 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4) [issue], those are IRS numbers. It is inherently an internal revenue matter,” he said. “There are two things you don’t want in political money, in the fundraising world and expenditure world. You don’t want secret money, and you don’t want unlimited money, and that’s what we have now.” --SNIP-- -

12 posted on 04/12/2014 8:23:03 AM PDT by Liz
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To: I am Richard Brandon
Issa may, but only may, have finally grown a pair and smacked Elijah down - whatever the cause, dear Elijah has gone very quiet. Lovely!

I think it has been wise for Issa to "keep your enemies close" and let Cummings dig his own grave one mouthful at a time. With all he's got on ol' Elijah now, it won't be terribly hard to make him sing. We'll see how tough that creep really is when confronted with the the rock of Zero's thugs and the prospect of hard time.

13 posted on 04/12/2014 8:25:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Logical me

“It really doesn’t matter because America is under a communists Democrat dictatorship. We are headed to a civil war and it is about to start.”

Why yes we are.


14 posted on 04/12/2014 8:25:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Absolutely. They are courageous women. Our nation has always been fortunate to have such patriots, may we always be.


15 posted on 04/12/2014 8:25:55 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Logical me

When the political party known as Democrat(which was becoming that in name only) decided to remove God’s name from its 2012 national convention platform. They performed a queer marriage with leftest radicals chefly known as one world socialists also known as communists. They became the hyphenated demo-com party.


16 posted on 04/12/2014 8:25:55 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: smoothsailing

Nothing will come of this because the Republican leadership in both houses also want to destroy the TEA Party movement, least we cause them problems helping their democrat friends build their little socialist utopia


17 posted on 04/12/2014 8:28:18 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: uncitizen
Shouldn’t Cummings, at the very least, be temporarily removed from his seat on the oversight committee investigating the IRS targeting matter?

Yes, and it would be the job of Boehner and Pelosi to create a face-saving scenario for Cummings in backroom negotiations. I suspect that is happening now.

18 posted on 04/12/2014 8:28:21 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Logical me; All

When the political party known as Democrat(which was becoming that in name only) decided to remove God’s name from its 2012 national convention platform. They performed a queer marriage with leftest radicals chefly known as one world socialists also known as communists. They became the hyphenated demo-com party.

And US their hypenated subjects;
Afro-American\
Hispanic-American
White-American
etc
etc
etc........


19 posted on 04/12/2014 8:31:19 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“We are headed to a civil war and it is about to start.”

And it’s quite likely to start on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada.


20 posted on 04/12/2014 8:50:07 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

“And it’s quite likely to start on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada”

Wasn’t it Nathan Hale who said “If not now when?”


21 posted on 04/12/2014 8:53:03 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: stockpirate

Bump.


22 posted on 04/12/2014 8:55:10 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Liz

The True the Vote case is the most important of the whole raft of Tea Party/IRS cases because there was a massive, coordinated multi-agency on Ms. Englebrecht and True the Vote. Although Lois Lerner was only a fanatical mid-level bureaucrat, she played he same role at the IRS and Adolph Eichmann played at the SS in enthusiastically executing the policy determined by other, higher people. However, if only the IRS was involved, it might be hard to get above the IRS in placing responsibility. The agencies that attacked True the Vote were independent of each other and c connected at the WH level. Thus, the orders to attack had to com from and be coordinated by one or more persons in the WH on the Mahdi’s direct orders, just as the orders for the Holocaust came from Hitler.


23 posted on 04/12/2014 8:58:30 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: C. Edmund Wright
It really does matter. It all matters.

You missed the point. What really matters is that most Americans do not realize they have lost their Country to communists Democrats that have been destroying our Constitution and our Country for many years. We have passed the point of no return now. How can we get Government out of our lives now? Beyond any logical reason. It cannot even in the smallest degree return because it has progressed so far into communism that without a civil war no chance. And then after a civil war, what then? Who and what will take power. Unless we see more treasonous asses in jail now, what hope?

Are we the first nation to crumble? It is happening right before our eyes. I'm a very very old man and have see what happened in my lifetime to Germany and the brown shirts. Are we there. Watch Nevada and the farmers and Harry Reid corruption.

24 posted on 04/12/2014 8:59:06 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: smoothsailing

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 04/12/2014 9:03:15 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

> Ms. Engelbrecht is the most courageous and brave woman in America today. Thank God for her efforts.

And much prettier and more intelligent that the liberal LGBT feminazis you see online...: )


26 posted on 04/12/2014 9:06:47 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Liz
"...and they better be ready because we don't forget""

I got news you ugly bitch Jarrett, you ain't seen what pissed off backlash is!

27 posted on 04/12/2014 9:12:53 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Logical me

“It really does matter. It all matters. Who knows what will be “the straw” that breaks the back….but it all matters and it all adds up.”

Bingo! You get it.

Just like the idea that articles of impeachment need to be filed against Holder, Obambi, and others. It doesn’t matter if it leads to an actual conviction or not: just the act itself recognizes and shows resolve against these unconstitutional acts; it underscores and brings light onto the treasonous acts themselves; and will fuel other actions that will have unforeseen and long-reaching consequences.


28 posted on 04/12/2014 9:16:40 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: The Sons of Liberty

When I see that pic of Jarrett, I think about those old Planet of the Apes movies....


29 posted on 04/12/2014 9:22:46 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: Logical me

I don’t miss anything……what you miss is that every event in education or the media or in politics is PART OF THAT LOSS OF THE COUNTRY…..WTF is soooooooooooooo hard for you, Illogical You, to figure out about that????


30 posted on 04/12/2014 9:25:36 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: smoothsailing

It’s not aliens.

It’s KORANIMALS!

Time to open the long awaited game of Cowboys & Muslims by convicting Muslim Elijah Cummings.

Cummings is black and Muslim, too. Any attack on his “Protected Class A$$” will likely cause some Libtards to stroke out or suffer MIs.

What’s not to like with the above scenario?


31 posted on 04/12/2014 9:40:37 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: uncitizen

That is raciss!!


32 posted on 04/12/2014 9:50:57 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Liz
Giddy w/ success at winning the WH, the malevolent Chicago criminals had big plans---they started making ominous threats from the getgo.

"Criminals' appears right...

33 posted on 04/12/2014 10:40:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (When fascism comes it will come..with promises of a better world.The jackboots come later..-Shapiro)
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To: GladesGuru
Cummings is black and Muslim, too.

Muslim? Where are you getting that from, what's your source?

34 posted on 04/12/2014 11:01:34 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

She sure is.


35 posted on 04/12/2014 11:10:21 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: LaRueLaDue

Conversely, if Republicans continue to pretend nothing is wrong, Obama, Holder, et al are further emboldened to implement tyranny. The lack of any effective opposition has been killing the country. If we don’t care enough to repair the broken windows, is it any surprise they keep breaking more of them?


36 posted on 04/12/2014 12:39:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly. Well stated.


37 posted on 04/12/2014 12:54:28 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks smoothsailing.
“To whatever extent there can be disciplinary action taken, we need to be very serious about taking them, but make no mistake, Elijah Cummings, though very important at this juncture of this discovery in this investigation, is just one of what I believe will be quite an extensive cast of characters that will point to a much vigor, much more orchestrated effort to target and silence private citizens,” Engelbrecht said.

38 posted on 04/12/2014 1:43:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The Demagogic Party


home of

Bullying


and phony anti-bullying sentiment

39 posted on 04/12/2014 1:46:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: uncitizen
Boehner would have to do something and you know how he hates to do anything. He'll probably hold hands and cry with Elijah Cummings feeling his pain, before he'd do anything dvisive.

How could a member of the House GOP actually vote for that guy? Why?

40 posted on 04/12/2014 2:19:19 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
How could a member of the House GOP actually vote for that guy? Why?

The GOP is as much an enemy of the people as the RATs. The House, however, has to at least pretend to stand with its constituents so we shall see how many of them will support Boehner. Wouldn't be surprised if he squeaks by tho.

41 posted on 04/12/2014 4:03:31 PM PDT by uncitizen (Impeach the Communist Already!)
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To: Liz; GOPJ
RE :”This is an outrage. No question-—the Cummings/ IRS paper trail of demeaning and subjugating conservatives leads straight to the WH criminals. “

Sadly Cummings is my district House rep.
But he sure wasn't when I moved here.. They moved in and took over

Dems are convinced that their blacks and women can do anything now and get away with it, that those elected to GOP are too scared of those groups (and hispanics) to respond to them and fight back.

42 posted on 04/12/2014 6:39:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: smoothsailing
Bttt.

5.56mm

43 posted on 04/12/2014 6:45:31 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Publius

Oh my gosh.

Have you guys not been paying attention lately?

Any untowards word about Cummings will result in the immediate removal of the race card from the closest democrats hind pocket and it will be liberally applied to any republican that dares suggest that a member of the CBC could have somehow been involved in something unethical.

Did you forget already that it is those people that support voterID that are the UnAmericans?

The Dumbocrats are all in with this play


44 posted on 04/12/2014 7:04:36 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Logical me

It might not seem like it, but our side is winning. I’ll send a link to some really great news...


45 posted on 04/12/2014 7:46:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: GOPJ; Georgia Girl 2; Logical me
It might not seem like it, but our side is winning. I’ll send a link to some really great news...

Please send it to me too! Thanks.

46 posted on 04/12/2014 7:55:12 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: sickoflibs

Conservatives aren’t afraid of blacks. We see them as people - some good - some corrupt. It’s white liberal elites who see them only in terms of skin color...That said, I’m sorry you’re represented by someone like Cummings. That’s got to be dreadful.


47 posted on 04/12/2014 7:55:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: GOPJ
RE :”Conservatives aren’t afraid of blacks. We see them as people - some good - some corrupt”

Some seem to be terrified of them.

To: nickcarraway
There’s NOT one other racial group in the United States that anyone would EVER think would riot under these circumstances. Only blacks. It does NOT speak well for them.

75 posted on ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2013‎ ‎3‎:‎52‎:‎48‎ ‎PM by GOPJ (Department of Justice organized rallies against George Zimmerman.)

48 posted on 04/12/2014 8:39:26 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks for correcting my mistake. I confused him with another elected Muslim.


49 posted on 04/13/2014 4:28:03 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GladesGuru

Well, he’s a dishonest dirtbag who will tear our country down to further his agenda.

So your confusion is understandable. :)


50 posted on 04/13/2014 9:18:50 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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