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Irony: Chinese Solar deal could start next American revolution at Bundy ranch
Pure Energy Systems News ^ | 4/12/14 | Sterling D. Allan

Posted on 04/12/2014 11:29:49 AM PDT by jimbo123

A heated situation in Nevada -- standoff between 140-year homesteading family rancher Cliven Bundy -- and BLM, apparently has its origin with a sweetheart $5 billion deal between Senator Harry Reed and the Chinese to put solar panels and manufacturing on the land.

I would imagine that most of you have been following the events taking place at the Bundy ranch in Nevada, USA, which are escalating into a tinder box that could foment the next American revolution, pitting patriots who believe in the Constitution against the tyrants who have been usurping freedom in the nation for decades.

Each day, the situation gets more tense. The heavily armed BLM Feds, some 200 strong, have used contractor rangers (with a mercenary reputation) to round up Bundy's cattle, separating mothers from calves, causing them to die, chasing cattle with helicopters to drive them to exhaustion. The feds are destroying the watering infrastructure that has been in place for 140 years, are taking down road signs about the cattle and cattle guard crossings; are pointing sniper riffles as the assembled protesters; have thrown a pregnant lady to the ground; have tased and arrested several people, including Bundy family members; have set up then removed "free speech zones" (as if any such designation is not applicable anywhere in the country); and generally are acting extremely imperious, trying to intimidate the gathering crowds.

Meanwhile, patriots from around the country have begun to arrive in support of Bundy, including several militia groups, who are not afraid to fire their weapons if needed. They are reinforced by local ranchers who are tired of the strong-arm tactics of the BLM that have been driving many of them out of business over the last few decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at pesn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; blm; bundy; bundyranch; china; harryreid; neilkornze; nevada; repository; roryreid

1 posted on 04/12/2014 11:29:49 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

What has Harry Reid’s involvement been in this debacle? We deserve answers; especially since the Feds have seemed hellbent on starting WWIII about this matter. - Mr. Bundy stated on radio yesterday that he has been paying grazing fees to the state. Something is rotten here; and it’s not in Denmark!


2 posted on 04/12/2014 11:36:31 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Twinkie

It seems that Harry Reid knows that he’s going to lose the Senate so he made his move. But if any one thinks Mitch McConnell, if relected, is going to investigate Reid’s actions on the Chinese solar farm, they’re not living in the real world.


3 posted on 04/12/2014 11:39:46 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Mr. Bundy’s business will be destroyed. My advise: Sue, sue, sue and prosecute Harry Reid & Son, and the BLM.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 11:45:07 AM PDT by kiltie65
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To: Twinkie
Twinkie:" What has Harry Reid’s involvement been in this debacle? We deserve answers.."

American land is up for sale to foreign investors
The FED values a toothless tortise over open range rights,
except that they are erradicating and euthanizing the tortise due to lack of private funds .
Harry clearly demonstrates the effectiveness of cronyism
and the fact that American Federal Govt. is also up "for sale " .

5 posted on 04/12/2014 11:46:35 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
A most interesting paragraph:

“One thing that needs to be remembered here is that the BLM has been serving to provide collateral for foreign debt for decades. And now, it seems the foreign holders of those notes want more than just a piece of paper. They want access to the land they own.”

6 posted on 04/12/2014 11:58:54 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Twinkie

Yeah, what’s the deal here, these are supposedly STATE lands and not Federally controlled. Bad enough the Feds usurp control over rivers and other natural boundaries between states, but to proceed to just wholesale claims of ownership without any shred of title involved is the most tyrannical form of eminent domain.


7 posted on 04/12/2014 12:00:07 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: jimbo123

Might be more believable if he had spilled Reid’s name right.


8 posted on 04/12/2014 12:05:08 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Aria
Aria:" A most interesting paragraph:.. And now, it seems the foreign holders of those notes want more than just a piece of paper.
They want access to the land they own.”

Then give them Detroit .

9 posted on 04/12/2014 12:06:47 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: jimbo123

Residents in the Mojave have been forced out for solar too:

http://www.laweekly.com/2011-06-23/news/l-a-county-s-private-property-war/

L.A. County’s Private Property War


10 posted on 04/12/2014 12:07:07 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: DoodleDawg

And if you had spelled “spelled” correctly. :^)


11 posted on 04/12/2014 12:16:19 PM PDT by beelzepug ((you can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it))
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Then give them Detroit .”

Force them to take it!


12 posted on 04/12/2014 12:17:45 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: jimbo123

The federal government puts me in mind of a junkie who is selling off his blood and vital organs for dope money until he finally dies. How much more of our sovereign nation can we part with before we, too, cease to exist?


13 posted on 04/12/2014 12:21:29 PM PDT by beelzepug ((you can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it))
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To: jimbo123

Those who don’t get off of the government-linked energy teat here very soon are going to be hurting in the near future. Even more investors with government and government-linked incomes are running to commodities in stampeding herds (like propane, power plants, natural gas, gasoline, etc.). That means prices will go up much more to serve your friendly neighborhood bureacrats/investors.

Nearly everything else is cheap and made in cheap countries. Finally—both cheap PV modules and manufacturing jobs!

rocket stove mass heater
http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp

$2K Solar Space + Water Heating — One Simple DIY System
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SpaceHeating/DHWplusSpace/Main.htm

Don’t freeze in the dark after the big collapse to come. Work for yourselves—not the beasties.


14 posted on 04/12/2014 12:30:35 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Aria

Bingo!!!


15 posted on 04/12/2014 12:33:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jimbo123

Revolution will never happen with this latest incident. Reid was re-elect wasn’t he. It’s the gambling establishment that re-elected him. Most Nevadaians would rather sit in front of a pin-ball machine in a casino then have any sympathy for a rancher.


16 posted on 04/12/2014 12:38:01 PM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: jimbo123

There is ALREADY an energy revolution in the US....so this article is a propaganda piece.


17 posted on 04/12/2014 12:38:16 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Excellent idea, add Camden as a bonus...
18 posted on 04/12/2014 12:39:11 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: jimbo123

This is potentially the start of a much larger issue.

Up until now, the Chinese have been poor and so not an international force.

However now China is becoming much less poor. Yet still China is not an open country.

Americans and other nations, cannot buy land or companies in China.

This is a growing and very important issue.

What is happening now, is that Chinese investors are buying up American land, but American investors are forbidden to buy Chinese land.

What is happening now, is that Chinese investors are buying up American companies, but American investors are forbidden to buy Chinese companies (except as minority owners).

China is now the world’s largest exporter.

This is an issue. A big issue.

Now.


19 posted on 04/12/2014 12:42:54 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: jimbo123

That BLM land 288,000 is acres. The Chinese want to build a manufacturing plant on 9,000 acres.

The government has been subsidizing PV solar module factories for American big shot lefties in government-connected energy companies and losing money on those. Think about it. It’s obvious, as to why PV modules are so special compared to other products and have been getting special protection against imports (government-connected sugar daddies).

And look at what’s coming with energy prices. Folks with government incomes have already had their grid-tied, PV electric monstrosities installed by “professionals” with tax breaks and rebates. What will the rest of you do, when the costs of electricity go up far more than “expected?” [See bond collapse, repudiation, dollar collapse, increased energy exports, etc.).


20 posted on 04/12/2014 12:45:00 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Aria

>>A most interesting paragraph:

“One thing that needs to be remembered here is that the BLM has been serving to provide collateral for foreign debt for decades. And now, it seems the foreign holders of those notes want more than just a piece of paper. They want access to the land they own.”<<

I had forgotten about that side of the issue. I think that is that is keeping our dollar afloat at this moment.


21 posted on 04/12/2014 1:17:20 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: jimbo123; Twinkie; Tilted Irish Kilt; Aria; alloysteel; DoodleDawg; Mr. Peabody; beelzepug; ...
It was county land--not BLM land. It was local government that sold county-owned property. Many local governments in the West like to own much property.

Harry Reid's Son Representing Chinese Solar Panel Plant in $5 Billion Nevada deal
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/04/Harry-Reid-s-Son-Representing-Chinese-Solar-Panel-Plant-In-5-Billion-Nevada-Deal

"Clark County commissioners unanimously voted to sell the Chinese company the public land for just $4.5 million, despite the fact that it was appraised at $38.6 million."


22 posted on 04/12/2014 1:20:10 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Bundy on the radio said he was paying - or wanted to pay - grazing rights to the local government, not the BLM. But other information I heard I thought indicated that this is Bundy’s land. So wonder how the BLM got involved?


23 posted on 04/12/2014 1:30:14 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Aria
Aria :" ..So wonder how the BLM got involved? "

See post #22

24 posted on 04/12/2014 1:52:06 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: jimbo123
America has been for sale to foreign enemies ever since the Clinton administration. If we ever get an honest government again, they could spend years just building criminal charges against the hundreds of Dem crooks-and some pubbies- selling us out every day. Missouri had a similar scandal over a Chinese company in mid-Missouri. A gold mine, they said. At the behest of the Dem governor, taxpayers forked over a lot of money and when nothing happened, the questions started coming relentlessly. Then the company folded. The execs got paid handsomely, but the taxpayers were left holding the bag.

Once they're in office, our elected leaders have no further need of the citizens.

25 posted on 04/12/2014 3:13:34 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: familyop
"Clark County commissioners unanimously voted to sell the Chinese company the public land for just 4.5 million, despite the fact that it was appraised at $38.6 million."

WTH?!

26 posted on 04/12/2014 3:14:03 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Aria

Ranchers can pay grazing fees to use national forests and BLM lands. The fee is a little less than $1.50 per head per month there, if I remember correctly. But that’s probably not the real issue.

From The Editor’s Desk: Not Really About Cows Or Turtles
http://mvprogress.com/2012/04/18/from-the-editor’s-desk-not-really-about-cows-or-turtles/

Compare that to the story that very few have wanted to talk about in political circles.

http://denverdirect.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-vern-wagner-saga-modern-day-western.html


27 posted on 04/12/2014 3:33:05 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Pajamajan

Long ago, I worked for a manufacturing company that paid a lease of $1 (per year?) on a large lot and large buildings in a large city. The local government there wanted the revenues.

Even many local, rural governments don’t want revenues from that kind of business any more, so they have zoning laws against any manufacturing, no matter how small (called “male” jobs by Democrats). They stick to trying to get federal funding, revenues from tourism, property taxes, etc. (called “women’s jobs” by Democrats). It’s not really about feminism, though. Along with the anti-family laws and policies, the regulations keep the riff-raff in flux and from rising to compete.


28 posted on 04/12/2014 3:44:57 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Twinkie
What has Harry Reid’s involvement been in this debacle?

Check out Harry Reid's Connection to Bundy Ranch Siege

29 posted on 04/12/2014 5:23:25 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: jimbo123

Still another reason to move the Govt out of DC. Keep them home so we can watch them. They don’t accomplish anything in DC they can’t do by Internet, except Party and take bribes.


30 posted on 04/12/2014 9:34:52 PM PDT by snowtigger
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