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DEA administrator claims that marijuana legalization imperils dogs
Washington Post ^ | 04/04/2014 | Ilya Somin

Posted on 04/12/2014 2:37:27 PM PDT by Wolfie

DEA administrator claims that marijuana legalization imperils dogs

Washington, D.C. -- It’s hard to come up with a new angle on a much-debated policy issue like the War on Drugs. But Drug Enforcement Administration head Michele Leonhart may have succeeded with her recent claim that we should oppose marijuana legalization because it poses a health risk for dogs. Unfortunately, her argument ignores the reality that the War on Drugs poses a far greater threat to dogs than marijuana does.

It is indeed true that ingesting marijuana creates some small risks for dogs. As Jacob Sullum notes, marijuana itself is not dangerous to canines; but ingesting it can sometimes lead them to be slower in vomiting up other dangerous foods in which it has been infused, such as chocolate (which is poisonous for dogs, when ingested in large quantities).

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Meanwhile, every year hundreds or thousands of dogs are needlessly slaughtered in overaggressive police raids undertaken as part of the War on Drugs. Jacob Sullum’s critique of Leonhart’s argument includes links to descriptions of numerous reprehensible incidents of this type. Whether you focus on dogs or on humans, the War on Drugs destroys vastly more lives than it saves.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: wodlist
I suppose it's a nice change of pace from "it's for the chiiiiillllldren".
1 posted on 04/12/2014 2:37:27 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Cops raiding homes and shooting dogs, imperils dogs far more than a blunt does.


2 posted on 04/12/2014 2:39:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Wolfie

How many dogs have been shot by law enforcement because of the “war on drugs”?


3 posted on 04/12/2014 2:40:22 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Wolfie

Maybe to all the drug sniffing dogs put out of work by legalization.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 2:42:27 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Wolfie

Guess what? It imperils your brain too.


5 posted on 04/12/2014 2:42:50 PM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: Wolfie

plenty of reasons not to legalize - do not need to make them up


6 posted on 04/12/2014 2:43:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

I hear you. This is asinine.


7 posted on 04/12/2014 2:46:16 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Wolfie

I believe it. Your dog turns into a stoner, quits working, goes on dog biscuit stamps, applies for Obamacare, then becomes a registered Democrat. It shouldn’t happen to a dog.


8 posted on 04/12/2014 2:48:51 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Wolfie
the DEA worrying about dogs and pot makes about as much sense as saying Hitler worried about Jews getting bit by fleas...

cops shoot/kill more dogs every year that pot will in a century

9 posted on 04/12/2014 2:49:22 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Wolfie

Lets all rally ‘round to protect “Jasper”.


10 posted on 04/12/2014 2:50:51 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Wolfie

Yea ..like dogs don’t already lay around all day and eat


11 posted on 04/12/2014 2:52:56 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: GeronL

Yes. This is silly.


12 posted on 04/12/2014 2:55:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Don Corleone

13 posted on 04/12/2014 2:55:36 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Wolfie

like bow wow maaaan.


14 posted on 04/12/2014 2:56:25 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Wolfie
The AKC will split the working group of dogs into the working dogs and the lying around the basement eating Doritos dogs.
15 posted on 04/12/2014 2:58:23 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Wolfie

Link doesn’t work. It should be:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/04/04/dea-administrator-claims-that-marijuana-legalization-imperils-dogs/


16 posted on 04/12/2014 2:58:52 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Spok

Ashburn, VA, the `burbs, a guy sees a sign in front of a house: “Talking Dog for Sale.”

He rings the bell and the owner tells him the dog is in the backyard. The guy goes into the backyard and sees a black mutt just sitting there.

“Um, hmmm ... OK, do you really talk?” he asks.

“Sure man.” the dog replies.

“So, what’s your story?”

The mutt looks up and says, “Well, I discovered my gift of talking pretty young not long after I started blowing dope, and I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA about my gift, and in no time they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping.
“I was one of their most valuable spies eight years running. The jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn’t getting any younger and I wanted to settle down. So I signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security work, mostly wandering near suspicious characters and listening in, sniffing out pot, eating brownies. I uncovered some incredible dealings there and was awarded a lot of medals. there in my little house. Had a wife, too, and a mess of puppies, and now I’m retired.”

The guy is amazed. A talking dog. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants.

The owner says, “Ten bucks.”

The guy says, “Why on earth are you selling him so cheap?”

The owner replies, “He’s a lying stoner. He’s high most of the time and he didn’t do any of that stuff.”


17 posted on 04/12/2014 2:59:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: tumblindice

We all know Dogs only eat Grass when they have Worms!


18 posted on 04/12/2014 3:02:23 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: Wolfie

She’s full of crap. Even if legalized, it would still be illegal for minors and dogs.


19 posted on 04/12/2014 3:04:56 PM PDT by umgud
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To: GeronL

Enlighten us with your top 10 list.


20 posted on 04/12/2014 3:06:16 PM PDT by RC51
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To: Wolfie

Heh. Decriminalization of drugs threatens a trillion dollar empire. If there’s anything drug cartels and LE agree on it’s, “Please don’t decriminalize drugs! We might have to get real jobs.”


21 posted on 04/12/2014 3:11:21 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: Wolfie

DEA administrator claims that chocolate legalization imperils dogs.

There fixed it.


22 posted on 04/12/2014 3:14:58 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Seruzawa

The cartels and LE are like opposing teams, in the same league. They battle each other; but they all realize that they need each other, or there’s no game.


23 posted on 04/12/2014 3:16:57 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Wolfie
Legalization imperils phoney-baloney federal jobs...

There. Fixed it.

/johnny

24 posted on 04/12/2014 3:18:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Wolfie

Is that both the “medical” AND “recreational” brands of weed?


25 posted on 04/12/2014 3:22:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: DocJhn
Whu whu what? stoned dog photo: My Dog looks Stoned StonedDog.jpg Buster's not here, man.
26 posted on 04/12/2014 3:32:13 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: GeronL

The biggest reason not to legalize is that there is no test to determine level of impairment for driving, as there is for alcohol. It takes 2 weeks for THC to leave the body, so what are the stoners supposed to do, never drive?


27 posted on 04/12/2014 4:46:25 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: logic101.net
Unimpressed. It is a violation everywhere to fail to maintain reasonable control of an automobile. You don't have to test for Jack - just observe the obviously impaired drivers and cite them.

It is a better standard than measuring intoxicant levels, because it actually PROVES a danger. It is a reasonable expectation that the government prove a charge, no?

So, the cops can't just pull over your "stoners" for a dim tail light and then measure some arbitrary juice level & stick them for ten grand in penalties based on that. Cry me a river.

28 posted on 04/12/2014 5:04:05 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: GeronL
Huh? I'm still waiting to hear legitimate cause for prohibition.

Apparently you have some? Do tell...

29 posted on 04/12/2014 5:15:02 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: logic101.net

The best reason is that potheads are dopes, they will corrupt children and the libertards will move on to normalizing cocaine for kids and stuff


30 posted on 04/12/2014 5:17:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Spok

Sometimes I really wish FR had a “Like” button.


31 posted on 04/12/2014 5:18:04 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

You are right. What did they do before the breathalizers? They did roadside impairment tests. Walk the line. Touch your nose. Count. Say the ABC’s. Go back to that.


32 posted on 04/12/2014 6:27:28 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Wolfie

Law enforcement has killed infinity times more people and dogs while enforcing pot prohibition than pot itself ever will. Zero people or animals have died from pot ingestion. Labs cannot even induce damage through doses not possible in nature.

The most dangerous thing about pot is the possibility of being shot by cops or ending up in jail with violent criminals for holding a dry plant.


33 posted on 04/13/2014 5:32:05 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Clinging Bitterly

observe the obviously impaired drivers and cite them

That is a rather subjective standard and it gives law enforcement more discretion than I am comfortable with.

In fact I was pulled over once for a roadside sobriety test at a USAF gate. I didn’t do well (drunk buddy just woke me up from a sound sleep to help him find his van). The pocket breathalizer read 0.00. Under your standards I’d have been given a DUI for my buddy being passed out drunk!

Oddly though, that was the only time I ever went through that gate sober.


34 posted on 04/13/2014 8:59:09 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Wolfie

A quick scan of the thread so far and I seem to be the only one remembering the Cheech & Chong “dog ate my stash” skit...

“This dope tastes like sh*t man.”

“It is.”


35 posted on 04/13/2014 1:05:09 PM PDT by Peet (The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal. - Aristotle)
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To: Marie; logic101.net
Actually, dispense with the parlor tricks too. If a person is driving dangerously it doesn't matter why, and it also doesn't matter if the driver can walk heel to toe or recite the alphabet backwards.

All that matters in the driving. So document, record, and describe the event, submit to cross examination, and convince a jury. Neither the ability to do physical stunts, nor the measurement of some arbitrary level of intoxicant, proves impairment.

Any conviction ought to begin with an observed and documented event showing actual impaired driving ability of the suspect, which could stand on its own as a violation of failure to maintain reasonable control, careless driving, or reckless driving. MADD type lobbying groups have brought forth increased sanctions similar to criminal penalties while legal procedures continue to follow standards used for speeding tickets - but justice in those cases should demand a full burden of proof from the government, 4th and 5th amendment rights, and so on.

JMO

36 posted on 04/13/2014 8:16:52 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: logic101.net
Oddly though, that was the only time I ever went through that gate sober.

Heh. In my youth I was often advised by the older and wiser that some day I might be undeservedly tagged for something, and the best course of action might then be to chalk it up as karma for the many times I had likely gotten away with it in times before.

But I think with something as serious and life altering as a possible DUI conviction can be today, I wouldn't be so easy going. I came of age in the '70s when where I come from a DIU ticket was just an extra big fine (the local police blotter column showed it was usually $365, though the less well to do would often get a break) and you could get a bunch of them before more serious sanctions than that were ever brought to the table. And without going into detail I am willing to admit I have gotten away with drunk driving a time or two, and I have driven while spun up pretty good on some other stuff as well - and I think in that regard I don't represent anything close to a small minority - but as we mature we do come to learn the errors of our ways and we become better and more conscientious people. Some learn sooner and perhaps in more harsh ways, and that's life.

37 posted on 04/13/2014 8:54:47 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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