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IRS ... will pay Microsoft millions for Windows XP support
Engadget ^ | Apr 13, 2014 | Michael Gorman

Posted on 04/13/2014 1:44:21 AM PDT by dayglored

Usually, the Internal Revenue Service is the one getting paid this time of year, but Uncle Sam will be lining someone else's pockets this tax season because of its attachment to Windows XP. In case you hadn't heard, support for XP officially stopped on April 8th, meaning that Microsoft will no longer provide support or security updates for the venerable OS.

However, governmental computers can't be left vulnerable, so the IRS will be paying Microsoft millions of dollars for custom support to keep their machines secure and functional. Right now, over half the agency's PCs still run XP...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: irs; microsoft; windows; xp
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The freakin' Federal Goomerbent will spend MILLIONS of TAX DOLLARS (some of which are YOURS and MINE) because they're a bunch of stinkin' procrastinators. Microsoft is of course happy to take those tax dollars.

But will they take YOUR or MY MONEY to continue support of our XP machines running critical business functions that can't be upgraded to Win7? OH, NO!! That would be bad, right, Microsoft??

FUIRS

FUMS

1 posted on 04/13/2014 1:44:22 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: ShadowAce; Swordmaker

Tech Ping request....


2 posted on 04/13/2014 1:46:31 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

But wait....That’s my money.


3 posted on 04/13/2014 1:47:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: dayglored

Its a damned good operating system.

Microsoft is happy to take the money. After all the Feds know a good value when they see one.


4 posted on 04/13/2014 1:48:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sacajaweau
> But wait....That’s my money.

That's right! YOU ARE PAYING MICROSOFT FOR THE SECURITY UPDATES. AND YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO GET THEM.

Because you're paying through the IRS, the middleman.

GRRRR.

5 posted on 04/13/2014 1:50:13 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored
*nut job conspiracy/on*
it's a belated payment for the "backdoor access" to your XP OS
/off

really agree, upgrade.

6 posted on 04/13/2014 1:54:40 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: skinkinthegrass; null and void
> *nut job conspiracy /on* -- it's a belated payment for the "backdoor access" to your XP OS -- /off

You think you're kidding, don't you??

7 posted on 04/13/2014 2:00:40 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

It would cost far less to do an enterprise installation of win se7en.
Or force them to use Surface Tablets as punishment for not preparing.


8 posted on 04/13/2014 2:01:30 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: dayglored
short ans: no...of course; not.
it's a extensively used OS, so upgrade OS7.

9 posted on 04/13/2014 2:04:44 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Darksheare
I converted or rebuilt all my XP machines to Win 7 over a year ago. I happen to LOVE Win 7.

But I've got small business clients whose custom written business software applications, and in some cases mission critical tools no longer supported by the manufacturer, run on XP. They CANNOT be upgraded to Win7, and replacement or rewrite is prohibitively expensive. It would put them out of business.

Microsoft could make continuing support available at a reasonable cost -- they are already going to be developing and distributing the security updates. But they won't. That's inexcusably lame.

10 posted on 04/13/2014 2:08:23 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

Oh boy.


11 posted on 04/13/2014 2:09:59 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: dayglored

Microsoft used to be in the target of Democrat politicians now after taking its campaign money these Democrats give Microsoft much taxpayer money.

Bill Gates leaned how to make the system work for him.

I’m guessing the Koch’s are being attacked like Microsoft was is because they aren’t giving Democrats more campaign money.


12 posted on 04/13/2014 2:10:04 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: dayglored

Seems it would be cheaper to upgrade to Win7...in the long run.


13 posted on 04/13/2014 2:10:46 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: dayglored

Third party support patches will be available for Windows XP now that Microsoft has ceased supporting it.

People will find a way to keep it running.


14 posted on 04/13/2014 2:13:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RginTN

“Bill Gates leaned how to make the system work for him.”

Bill and Co. got reamed by the Clinton administration, IIRC, along the lines of monopoly and unfair practices. He wants the money back. He’s chucklin’ like Mutley.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 2:32:52 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: dayglored

Just out of curiosity I invoked Microsoft Update on my XP box, which had already gotten its “final updates” a few days ago. It still had Bing Bar available and permitted me to apply it.

It’s probably cheaper to do this than it is to take the IRS boxen forward to another version of Windows.

They could consider using Linux, I guess.


16 posted on 04/13/2014 2:36:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: hattend
> Seems it would be cheaper to upgrade to Win7...in the long run.

In most cases, that's correct.

But in many cases, it's an unaffordable option.

17 posted on 04/13/2014 2:39:17 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Consider the upside. No one is going to develop malware for a “dead” operating system.

XP is going to be more secure now that Microsoft has proclaimed its official obituary.


18 posted on 04/13/2014 2:48:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dayglored

It wasn’t procrastination...it was a well-planned pay-off. The latest installment in the lucrative “create-a-crisis” Government game.


19 posted on 04/13/2014 2:54:24 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: goldstategop

Ha! ha! ha!


20 posted on 04/13/2014 2:55:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: dayglored
"Microsoft could make continuing support available at a reasonable cost -- they are already going to be developing and distributing the security updates. But they won't. That's inexcusably lame."

Putting your clients in a pinch is something they should remember about Microsoft... they exist to sell you OS upgrades. That's reason enough to get off the MS train.

Yes, Big Windows can do this to them once. But once your clients have got this problem solved, they will find a way to ensure that it never happens again. I'm guessing that some flavor of Linux will be in their futures.

21 posted on 04/13/2014 3:44:15 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: dayglored

Who to root for in this one? The IRS or Microsoft? No good guys here.


22 posted on 04/13/2014 3:46:37 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: dayglored

OMG now XP becomes the 3rd, the other 2 you can’t escape, Death and Taxes....


23 posted on 04/13/2014 3:54:08 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Darksheare

They likely have applications which wont work on win7.


24 posted on 04/13/2014 4:04:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dayglored

Ms is a business. They get to choose what they do.

They gave everyone several years notice. If the irs cant pull its head out of its butt then they are at fault.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 4:06:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dayglored

I know in some organizations the software they use will not run on Window7 or 8. So they get stuck until the “other” user application software gets replaced or upgraded.


26 posted on 04/13/2014 4:17:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: driftdiver
Hi, I'm from the IRS and I'm here to help...


27 posted on 04/13/2014 4:23:55 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: goldstategop
No one is going to develop malware for a “dead” operating system.

Wrong.

100% wrong.

Who better to attack than folks whose guardians just walked away?

28 posted on 04/13/2014 4:25:41 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: dayglored

I run a mixed network at home because my kid’s schools use XP.


29 posted on 04/13/2014 4:48:52 AM PDT by fso301
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To: dayglored

Amazing - most government computers transitioned through Vista and onto Win 7, yet more than half of IRS computers are still running XP. Massive incompetence at work here - that and the “diversionary forays” into illegally hindering Conservative organizations. Computers are the lifeblood of modern day business - it seems a bit criminal for such as the IRS to neglect the necessary upgrades.


30 posted on 04/13/2014 5:08:47 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: dayglored

Microsoft’s version of a protection racket.

Gotta think up some way to keep the dough flowing


31 posted on 04/13/2014 5:18:00 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: dayglored

Microsoft and the government, anyone see a problem here?


32 posted on 04/13/2014 5:22:58 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: dayglored
JAYZUS.

I work for a major Fed group, and we don't get funded like the IRS... and even WE are all on Win 7.

The IRS should try vaulting into the 20th century sometime.

33 posted on 04/13/2014 5:29:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: dayglored

Yet I’ve overseen WinXP—>Vista and Vista—>Win7 upgrades on 100% of my systems in my Army units since DoD forces us for primarily security purposes (although the move to Vista screamed of the right palms being greased).

Maintaining XP is a major security problem that only involves the tax information (which is 100% PII [personally identifiable information]) of nearly every person in the country. What could possibly go wrong?


34 posted on 04/13/2014 5:31:03 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: dayglored

Hey Microsoft, since you are supporting the IRS, how about sending us some of those fixes as well. After all WE are paying you for the IRS support.


35 posted on 04/13/2014 5:55:48 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: dayglored

The company I work for does a refresh every two years. We lease computers, including individual laptops. We get support from an outside vendor. On a rolling basis, everyone’s laptop is turned in for a newer model, with the leasing company moving applications and data off the old machine, including the desktop. One is encouraged not to keep data on the hard drive, but use the network drives. They system works pretty well, but is somewhat disruptive since you need to learn all the latests wrinkles in Office every two years.


36 posted on 04/13/2014 6:10:31 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: dayglored

Disconnect IRS computers with XP from the internet. No more facebook, no more porn downloads... make government work unappealing.


37 posted on 04/13/2014 6:21:34 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: goldstategop

An operating system is dead when it is no longer used, not when it is no longer supported. As long as so many juicy targets use XP it will be hacked aggressively.


38 posted on 04/13/2014 6:25:22 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God save us!)
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To: goldstategop

“Its a damned good operating system.”

What you said. I’m running it at this very moment, and am holding on to it like Grim Death. Other computers in our house are running Vista, Windows 7 & 8. We return to the PC with XP when we need something truly stable and dependable.

If I’m paying for Uncle Sugar to receive support with my money, why can’t I get support with my money?


39 posted on 04/13/2014 6:26:46 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: trebb

It is not an unusual situation at all. I worked for a tech company that as of two years ago still did not have any computers beyond XP and had a number of tools still on NT and even some on DOS/Win 3.1 and we had a huge IT staff. The problem is that we had a lot of proprietary software that was mission critical that was very expensive to upgrade to work with new operating systems and tools that couldn’t be upgraded for a reasonable cost or was impossible because the vendors were no longer around.


40 posted on 04/13/2014 6:45:07 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God save us!)
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To: dayglored
Doesn't the 14th amendment guarantee EVERYONE "equal protection under the law"?? If Bill Gates is giving support to the feds, doesn't he have to do the EXACT SAME for the states and citizens who still DESIRE Microsoft XP support??
41 posted on 04/13/2014 7:01:22 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Flying Circus
It is not an unusual situation at all. I worked for a tech company that as of two years ago still did not have any computers beyond XP and had a number of tools still on NT and even some on DOS/Win 3.1 and we had a huge IT staff. The problem is that we had a lot of proprietary software that was mission critical that was very expensive to upgrade to work with new operating systems and tools that couldn’t be upgraded for a reasonable cost or was impossible because the vendors were no longer around.

I've run across the same a time or two. I guess that the solution would be to start reviewing applications to make new purchases less proprietary and less likely to choke on newer platforms. I'm running an old WinAmp that was around with Win95 on a Win7 platform. I realize it's a lot less complicated than some of the huge apps that businesses need, but I find it difficult to understand why folks keep painting themselves into corners by having special apps contracted for development with no plan to upgrade after a certain expected life span. The companies that develop the software are the biggest winners.

On the flip side, we also try to adapt COTS apps for other than the originally intended use and that creates its own ball of wax.

42 posted on 04/13/2014 7:02:08 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Flying Circus

I believe that quite a bit of medical software will run only on XP.


43 posted on 04/13/2014 7:26:15 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: dayglored

No problems with my Apple stuff..


44 posted on 04/13/2014 7:33:22 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Flying Circus
... and even some on DOS/Win 3.1

There's a machine tool in my plant that is controlled by a 286 running Dos Shell.

Coming upon that was like discovering a living brontosaurus.

45 posted on 04/13/2014 7:34:01 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Izzy Dunne; goldstategop
>> No one is going to develop malware for a “dead” operating system.

> Wrong. 100% wrong. Who better to attack than folks whose guardians just walked away?

XP and Vista/7 share 90% of their code. Every month, the bad guys will examine the patches Microsoft produces for Vista/7, determine where the code flaw was, and find that same flaw in XP. Then they will exploit it in XP.

By stopping security update support for XP, while the nearly identical code is still getting updates, Microsoft is handing the bad guys a freakin' map of XP flaws to exploit. THAT is the problem.

46 posted on 04/13/2014 7:54:44 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

Do your taxes online under XP & pay the IRS nothing for last year ... if audited, argue that it was a software glitch — they should “understand” ......


47 posted on 04/13/2014 8:24:34 AM PDT by mikrofon (Sunday BUMP)
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To: dayglored

I wonder if a FOIA request for the code on the updates would be productive?


48 posted on 04/13/2014 9:01:45 AM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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To: SoFloFreeper

No. Microsoft is a business. Unlike a government, if you do not like the way a business is treating you, you can easily migrate your custom elsewhere.


49 posted on 04/13/2014 9:12:51 AM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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To: dayglored

Ah. Oh dear.


50 posted on 04/13/2014 9:14:31 AM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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