Skip to comments.Federal agency vows to continue legal action after ending Nevada ranch standoff [BLM v Bundy]
Posted on 04/13/2014 2:17:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
The Bureau of Land Management vowed Saturday that it would continue its legal fight to remove illegal cattle from a rural Nevada range after ending a tense weeklong standoff with a rancher and his supporters.
"After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, [rancher Cliven] Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million. The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially," a statement from the bureau said. "We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner."
The BLM also announced that it was wrapping up its month-long operation to seize the 900 cattle roaming on federally owned land approximately 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas and would release the 400 head of Bundy's cattle it had already seized "in order to avoid violence and help restore order."
"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public," the statement read.," the statement read.
Bureau officials had dismantled designated protest areas supporting Bundy, who they say refuses to comply with the "same laws that 16,000 public land ranchers do every year."
A group of about 1,000 supporting Bundy cheered and sang "The Star Spangled Banner" when BLM made its announcement.
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Well that was expected. They’ll try to torment him through bureaucracy, harder to fight.
The federal gubmint should not own land, or push private citizens off land.
Its predictable, attack in a manner now that cannot be stopped as before.
Would not be surprised to suddenly hear that all of his cows have been tested and found to have Mad Cow disease or something.
But a “kingpin” pun intended is Reid and company.
It's one thing for Democrats to look the other way when the Majority Leader of the Senate lines his sons' pockets and quite another when the story assumes the dimensions of a national scandal.
After this brouhaha, every conservative legal eagle and constitutional scholar in the United States willl be lining up to represent Bundy. I’m guessing he’ll do all right and Obama and his minions will end up grinding their teeth.
Smirking at this. They know we have had enough of federal jackboot behavior. I don't care what they say to save face, the people won this one and it is historical imo. I send honor and gratitude to those who were there representing us.
Yes... even though we don’t want to see Bundy scrod, if he’s a little bit screw loose (some say he claims not to be a US citizen — okay, what if he wanted to run for President?) he might be tilting at windmills in court and missing what he ought to be arguing.
I hope so. Little 34 year-old Neil Kornze, the fresh out of the box director of BLM is holding on to the one million in back rents every time he opens his mouth.
It seems that Bundy was and is willing to pay the rents to an authority that he recognizes that he has a contract with... the county. The rents suddenly became payable to the feds and if he pays that he sets the precedent of having recognized that authority. A bad move on his part.
This goes back to the Sagebrush Rebellion of 1991 when the cattlemen actually won but a three judge appeals court overturned that favorable ruling when Reagan and Bush 1 left office. There is no uniform law, only the current regime.
They are going to need legal representation, that’s for sure. I believe it was the family’s spokesman on Judge Pirro last night who said “What the family needs now is sleep and legal representation.” It surprised me that they didn’t have an attorney or attorneys already.
For all his unfair difficulties I wonder if Bundy has been tilting at windmills in court when more substantive issues that could have been pressed are not being pressed.
One conservative tenet is to let people fail who are intent on self sabotage. Because of the cause, this isn’t being done here. Well fine, but if we want to save Bundy from lack of shrewdness, we ought to at least mean it. And get him wised up about how to continue in the future once his fat has been pulled from the fire.
Well they can hide their emminent domain landgrab behind a dollar figure if they want but somewhere I heard there were 160 cattle dead and I’m sure more than a few in rough shape. Considering the present and future value of those cattle, a reasonable person might say any debt should be considered paid in full and future fees paid at least a few years in advance, considerin’.
After 14 years, this is ridiculous.
The tortoise issue is a laughingstock. Why don’t they just leave the old man and his cattle alone.
The complainers all seem to be enviro-nuts and developer opportunists.
And in all of these there is no credible evidence of damage any greater than other area wildlife.
I’m no legal scholar, but I know a little bit about how the world works and how businessmen operate (and lawyers are businessmen, too).
I’d bet money that all the top conservative lawyers in the US will be piling on to handle this pro bono (for the publicity alone) and that they’ll get Bundy into a three-piece suit and up to speed on effective courtroom dress, deportment, and behavior before you can say, “Jack Robinson.”
Personally, I like his chances.
Yes that is my understanding also, that Bundy has been paying the county and is willing to pay the county what he owes in back fees. Seems that the BLM moved in using a Jessie Jackson type shakedown maneuver and demanded the fees be paid to them and Bundy is unwilling to go along with that shakedown.
Tell the BLM to refund the 8 mil they spent on holding the Bundy hostage for a week and WE the People will call it even.
Let FReedom Ring
It would appear that the Feds have spent over $1 Million trying to round up the cattle and tick off the locals
“...Federal agency vows to continue legal action...”
Of course they will. FedZilla and his Thugocracy MUST be obeyed!!
Can’t look like they lost and let the “Little People” think they actually have power now, can they...
Believe the Japanese called it “Losing Face” or words to that effect???
So many questions that demand answers.
The guys here at work have no clue what’s going on. Many are saying the Feds are in the right.
If it wasn’t for the internet (And, of course, you, J.R.), that family would be dead in the dirt.
And the Feds would be high-fiving each other for the rest of the month.
Happy for him, but a bit depressed at the record in regards to the courts. Randy Weaver was at least found not guilty and “compensated”, but the government thugs involved weren’t punished in the slightest, and the folks at Waco were pretty much told to go get stuffed. I don’t expect things to be better now, especially with dear leader and holder running things.
“We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding ...”
They who had snipers there...
The Law becomes very important at times to those who do not defend our borders and who cannot show the clause in the Constitution that permits them to own 80% of NV.
I’m not at all surprised. This was a skirmish. BLM called in muscle for a strategic withdrawal.
BLM references “former” Bunkerville Allotment, BLM references “illegal cattle”.
Also, Reid should face recrimination and questions from fellow senators on the floor of the senate. Bait the old buzzard into a spittle spewing defense of himself.
The way the federal government acted this week reminded me of the same type behavior regarding their shutdown. Pre printed signs telling people where they can stand etc.
I figure the next time they decide to harass people, the people won’t know they are coming.
Wasn't there news recently about Al Sharpton or some other luminary that owed back rent up in Harlem or somewhere and the taxpayers ended up bailing him out? Where is the government 'taking further legal action' on this? The fed arbitrarily writes off debt, both good and bad, every minute of the day. This is just pig headed stubbornness and oppression for oppression's sake, IMO.
Yes, and how many millions of dollars were spent by BLM on this week-long stunt of federal government overreach, jack-booted, SWAT bullsh!t?
Irritate him with red tape, MSM attacks to defamate his character and portray as a right winger who wanted “free” land to graze his cattle on while he gets rich selling cattle (we KNOW this what the left will do; they are so predictable), bs lawsuits to force him to appear in court, find other ways to bleed his income dry and force him into bankruptcy (baically all soft irritation tactics), and NSA intel to monitor his communications and movements to find an exploitable character flaw.
The left won’t considerthe history involved or see the true reason BLM agents arrived to boot his cattle off the land to make he and his sons rich using a ruse. They won’t get or understand that the government us made up of selfish who attained their power by exploiting their positions and “bullying” others. That won’t understand why this is wrong or why pople ot pset over it because they are too distracted by their electronic devices to think critically, logically, or rationally to see the bigger picture here.
Irritate him with red tape, MSM attacks to defamate his character and portray as a right winger who wanted free land to graze his cattle on while he gets rich selling cattle (we KNOW this what the left will do; they are so predictable), bs lawsuits to force him to appear in court, find other ways to bleed his income dry and force him into bankruptcy (baically all soft irritation tactics), and NSA intel to monitor his communications and movements to find an exploitable character flaw.
The left wont considerthe history involved or see the true reason BLM agents arrived to boot his cattle off the land to make Harr Reid and his sons rich using a ruse. They wont get or understand that the government us made up of selfish who attained their power by exploiting their positions and bullying others. That wont understand why this is wrong or why pople ot pset over it because they are too distracted by their electronic devices to think critically, logically, or rationally to see the bigger picture here.
> The complainers all seem to be enviro-nuts and developer opportunists.
Translation: the indoctrinated millenials who are living with their parents and the elites
I was heartened to see us win a battle. But, do not mistake, this was only a battle. The war will be a much longer, much harder slog. I fully expect to number among its dead.
You misspelled "Jim Robinson".
Never mess with people who have nothing to lose.
He will now be buried under a blizzard of paperwork and lawyers ...
“I hope so. Little 34 year-old Neil Kornze, the fresh out of the box director of BLM is holding on to the one million in back rents every time he opens his mouth.”
Land is protected because of a tortoise. However Bundy owes 1.3 million in back payments so his herd can graze on protected land.
Sounds like a lawsuit. A big lawsuit.
To Hell with the Federal “Legal Beagles”.
As do I, My FRiend. I have no illusions about going out a "hero". It will only be because I will not comply with their demands. This does not sound dramatic, nor should it, but everyone knows or should know that they are prepared, willing and able to kill anyone who defies them.
The story of the guy in the Everglades, or the edge of the Everglades a few years back has been forgotten. But they were about to kill him until cooler heads prevailed and got him to accept their offer.
“...I heard there were 160 cattle dead and Im sure more than a few in rough shape.”
Where was PETA while these poor critters were being unethically treated? Were they confined to their own 1st Amendment protest zone down in the lower forty?
The federal government doesn’t “own” 80% of Nevada. Public land is just that: PUBLIC. It belongs to the people. However, in many instances the federal government is the trustee that is charged with the management of that public property. But as the trustee the federal government’s management is limited by law, though the feds routinely ignore the law and exceed their authority and pretty much do whatever the hell they like or want.
Why Clive Bundy isn't WRONG.
There have been a lot of people criticizing Clive Bundy because he did not pay his grazing fees for 20 years. The public is also probably wondering why so many other cowboys are supporting Mr. Bundy even though they paid their fees and Clive did not. What you people probably do not realize is that on every rancher's grazing permit it says the following: "You are authorized to make grazing use of the lands, under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management and covered by this grazing permit, upon your acceptance of the terms and conditions of this grazing permit and payment of grazing fees when due." The "mandatory" terms and conditions go on to list the allotment, the number and kind of livestock to be grazed, when the permit begins and ends, the number of active or suspended AUMs (animal units per month), etc. The terms and conditions also list specific requirements such as where salt or mineral supplements can be located, maximum allowable use of forage levels (40% of annual growth), etc., and include a lot more stringent policies that must be adhered to. Every rancher must sign this "contract" agreeing to abide by the TERMS AND CONDITIONS before he or she can make payment. In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every rancher's permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years. As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%. For those of you who are non ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%. In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada. Presently, there are 3. Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM. Clive Bundy was one of these people who received extremely unfair and unreasonable TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Keep in mind that Mr. Bundy was required to sign this contract before he was allowed to pay. Had Clive signed on the dotted line, he would have, in essence, signed his very livelihood away. And so Mr. Bundy took a stand, not only for himself, but for all of us. He refused to be destroyed by a tyrannical federal entity and to have his American liberties and freedoms taken away. Also keep in mind that all ranchers financially paid dearly for the forage rights those permits allow - - not rights to the land, but rights to use the forage that grows on that land. Many of these AUMS are water based, meaning that the rancher also has a vested right (state owned, not federal) to the waters that adjoin the lands and allow the livestock to drink. These water rights were also purchased at a great price. If a rancher cannot show beneficial use of the water (he must have the appropriate number of livestock that drinks and uses that water), then he loses that water right. Usually water rights and forage rights go hand in hand. Contrary to what the BLM is telling you, they NEVER compensate a rancher for the AUMs they take away. Most times, they tell ranchers that their AUMS are "suspended," but not removed. Unfortunately, my family has thousands of "suspended" AUMs that will probably never be returned. And so, even though these ranchers throughout the course of a hundred years invested thousands(and perhaps millions) of dollars and sacrificed along the way to obtain these rights through purchase from others, at a whim the government can take everything away with the stroke of a pen. This is the very thing that Clive Bundy single-handedly took a stand against. Thank you, Clive, from a rancher who considers you a hero.
-Kena Lytle Gloeckner
The Modern American Revolution
I watched a lot of this on Fox News, and everytime whoever it was reporting, mainly LaJuenesse. continually referred to the CITIZENS as the Militia and the Gestapo Agents from the Bureau of Property Control as ‘Law Enforcement” even as they were Rustling his Cattle, which used to be a Hanging Offence. For some reason this asswipe was getting his panties all bunched up because Private Citizens dared to do the the exact same thing that the Jack Booted Gestapo Agents from the Bureau of Property Control were doing, mainly Pointing their Firearms at the ENEMY.
CONGRESS CAN STOP THIS OVERNIGHT, and they should bring the head of this rogue agency before them to explain their actions, then JAIL the entire bunch and shut down this Agency run by the Gestapo.
How much property tax has the BLM paid to the taxpayers of the State of Nevada in the last 20 years? They are American taxpayers, too.
And is the BLM going to pay back the American taxpayers the millions they just burned due to their lack of common sense?
Class Period: Apr-30-08 to Feb-28-12
The complaint alleges violations of federal securities laws, Sections 10(b) and 20(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and Rule 10b-5, including allegations of issuing a series of material or false misrepresentations to the market which had the effect of artificially inflating the market price during the Class Period, which is April 30, 2008 through February 28, 2012.
I’m going to take an unpopular position here just because....
bottom line, removing all the emotion out of the subject and just looking at one simple fact, Hasn’t Bundy been breaking the law for 20 years or am I missing something?
“Solar Energy Zones Identified in US
22 million acres of US public lands are now called Solar Energy Zones - land that’s suitable for large, utility-scale solar plants.
The land is in Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah.
The land was chosen after a joint environmental study, the Draft Solar Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement, conducted by the DOE and Dept of the Interior. The study was initiated in 2008.”
“Obama Plans 10 Million Acre Land Grab”
Posted on March 5, 2010
“There are many sites on the administrations list that have key energy resources that could be developed such as oil and gas reserves. However, environmentalists that support the administration want these sites locked down to protect animals and nature. Again at a time when energy independence should be a priority, why would the administration get in the way?”
That's true or rather it should be true. I did a google News search for, Harry Reid Bundy.
I got almost 50 hits (w/option to see duplicates and all) sorted on recent to oldest date.. for the dates current through 11 April the closest to a MSM employee was the LV Review-Journal, the Examiner (Washington, D.C. I believe) and LV CBS. Everything else was the alternate media it seemed to me.
BTW I did not check the the Examiner and LV CBS but the R-J article mention of Reid had nothing to do with scandal. It was that he was not on the scene and there was a link about him to an unrelated story.
How many times will Reid's name be mentioned vis-a-vis BLM on the MSM talk shows today? My guess is zero. I have no TV so I'll be spared the outrage. :)