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EDITORIAL: North Carolina answers Democrats’ question ‘What vote fraud?’
The Washington Times ^ | 4-13-14

Posted on 04/13/2014 5:52:15 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

It’s an article of the faith of the Democrats that voter fraud is nothing to worry about because it never happens. Kim Strach, the North Carolina director of elections, has living proof — and some dead proof — otherwise.

She has identified 35,750 persons who voted in North Carolina sharing a name, birth date and Social Security number with someone who voted in another state in 2012. Another 81 North Carolinians voted after they died. Ghosts have no constitutional rights, not yet, but Barack Obama and the Democrats think rigor mortis need not keep voters from practicing good citizenship.

President Obama nevertheless insists on looking the other way when voter fraud lies all about him. Speaking at a Democratic fundraiser in Houston last week, Mr. Obama criticized “active efforts to deter people from voting.”

“The idea that you’d purposely try to prevent people from voting?” Mr. Obama asked, and answered: “Un-American.”

Fraudulent ballots cast cancel valid votes, but only a tiny fraction of 1 percent of the cases cited in the North Carolina audit were referred for investigation and prosecution, as reported by WNCN-TV in Raleigh. The North Carolina figures were compiled as a result of an interstate cross-check effort among 28 states. Such figures show Gov. Pat McCrory and the Republican-majority North Carolina legislature were right to enact a voter photo-ID law, reduce early voting and end same-day registration. These abuses of Election Day invite fraud.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; corruptdems; deadvoting; democrats; doublevoting; electionfraud; elections; franken; nc2012; votefraud; voterfraud; voting

1 posted on 04/13/2014 5:52:15 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Democratic Party strongly supports the Civil Rights of Necro-Americans!


2 posted on 04/13/2014 5:54:30 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
She has identified 35,750 persons who voted in North Carolina sharing a name, birth date and Social Security number with someone who voted in another state in 2012. Another 81 North Carolinians voted after they died.

If she contacts some of the 35,750 people who voted in two States at the same time she'll discover the truth. Few if ANY of them actually voted in two states.

Democrats vote the ballots of people who don't show up to vote. Democrats voted FOR them without telling them. That's how the 'dead vote' happens. The dead never vote but democrats pull their 'cards' and vote for them.

If you know the extend of the dead vote you know how much fraud is going on.

3 posted on 04/13/2014 5:59:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: GOPJ

There needs to be an audit trail. If we aren’t willing to investigate, we have no reason to complain.


4 posted on 04/13/2014 6:01:50 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
IF the FBI wasn't as corrupt and biased as the IRS, they could catch and STOP almost all important voter fraud. All they need to do is seed voter roles with names of non-existent people.

IF and WHEN those seeded non-existent 'people' vote the FBI has proof of voter fraud.

What conservatives in North Carolina need to do is sue on the basis of their civil rights being taken from them BECAUSE of voter fraud.

If my vote is cancelled out by democrat thugs then they've robbed me of my Constitutional rights.

5 posted on 04/13/2014 6:06:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
President Obama nevertheless insists on looking the other way when voter fraud lies all about him.

His opulent life style depends on it (fraud).

6 posted on 04/13/2014 6:06:35 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: who knows what evil?

See post #5


7 posted on 04/13/2014 6:06:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“She has identified 35,750 persons who voted in North Carolina sharing a name, birth date and Social Security number with someone who voted in another state in 2012. “

This is mistaken. The report identified 35,750 people who voted in NC sharing a name and birthdate (not a social security number) with voters elsewhere. There were around 750 people who matched name, birthdate and social security.


8 posted on 04/13/2014 6:06:53 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: GOPJ

How about contacting Ms. Engelbrect at True The Vote and she can advise you that your opinion that people don’t personally vote in two states is in fact wrong. She started in Florida and have attained admissions in several states where this happened. Maryland and NY to be notable. They didn’t physically go there but requested their absentee ballots and sent them in. So in fact, they did knowingly vote twice, at the very least.

That is not to say that your point about the dead voting is in error. Actually is is just as correct as those who have voted more than once in different states in the same election. The entire system is corrupted just as is every section of our government.


9 posted on 04/13/2014 6:06:56 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77

Yes, there are some people who vote in both states but that’s the exception not the rule. ‘The dead’ are pure fraud as are the majority of the double votes.


10 posted on 04/13/2014 6:09:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That’s Right!”Vote Early And Often;Don’t Let Being Deceased Get In Your Way”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 04/13/2014 6:11:50 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: GOPJ

You mean to tell me that you would deny a citizen the franchise, simply because he or she or it is respirationally challenged? Shame on you, sir, shame!


12 posted on 04/13/2014 6:12:44 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GOPJ; All

So..... In light of all of this, is anything gonna change?


13 posted on 04/13/2014 6:13:51 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorsed McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: GOPJ

Spot on! I have always wondered why someone hasn’t filed a suit. Conservatives are the ones that have been ‘disenfranchised’. Zero did NOT win the 2012 election if you actually count legitimate votes. That is why I never refer to Zero as ‘president’...he is no such thing.


14 posted on 04/13/2014 6:19:07 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GOPJ; All

What conservatives in North Carolina need to do is sue on the basis of their civil rights being taken from them BECAUSE of voter fraud.

If my vote is cancelled out by democrat thugs then they’ve robbed me of my Constitutional rights.
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If FReepers know any good Conservatives in North Carolina, who are up for a good fight, they need to pass your suggestion on to them. If I lived in NC, I guar-an-damn-tee you I’d do it. Let’s hear from some of you NC folks.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 6:19:34 AM PDT by Din Maker (Rand Paul, Rick Perry endorsed McConnell over Bevin. Neither will ever get my vote in 2016.)
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To: who knows what evil?
If we aren’t willing to investigate, we have no reason to complain.

We? How about if the jerk-offs in the FBI get off their 'conservative paranoia' butts and do some investigations into voter fraud?

Why not??

Maybe like the IRS and 'justice department' the FBI thinks they only work for Democrats - - but that's against the law. Taking out political enemies of any political 'Establishment' is what Nixon tried to do with his 'enemies list' and we all know how that turned out. The FBI needs to investigate voter fraud - - even if they suspect it's their beloved Democrats voting the dead - and anyone else needed who didn't show up to vote.

16 posted on 04/13/2014 6:20:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Vote fraud will never be addressed seriously until Republicans are seen to be benefiting from it.
17 posted on 04/13/2014 6:22:09 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: GOPJ

One of the other huge problems is the GOP’s ‘open primary’ system...a ‘sealed with a kiss’ invitation to the Democrats to select ‘our’ nominee. Why won’t the GOP close their primaries to REGISTERED Republicans? Hmmm?


18 posted on 04/13/2014 6:36:37 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GOPJ
IF the FBI wasn't as corrupt and biased as the IRS, they could catch and STOP almost all important voter fraud. All they need to do is seed voter roles with names of non-existent people.

The libs would cry "Entrapment!

19 posted on 04/13/2014 6:40:09 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

One common abuse is for people who take vacation all winter in the south to be registered in both the northern state and the vacation state. Florida being one of the most common.


20 posted on 04/13/2014 6:44:33 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is the corruption of America - economic, criminal, judicial, political, sexual, and more)
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To: luvbach1
The libs would cry "Entrapment!

"Bitch set me up" - former Democratic Mayor of Washington D.C.

21 posted on 04/13/2014 6:44:43 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: who knows what evil?
One of the other huge problems is the GOP’s ‘open primary’ system...a ‘sealed with a kiss’ invitation to the Democrats to select ‘our’ nominee.

One is legal and stupid the other is illegal. Voter fraud steals our Constitutional rights... that's the one the FBI needs to look into...

22 posted on 04/13/2014 6:46:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: luvbach1

Just change the voting process. Instead of popular vote winning the states electoral votes, give each county 1 point. Whoever wins the county gets 1 point. Most points win the states electoral votes.

This eliminates voter fraud because it allows the county to commit fraud. If Cook County wants to have 150% of the vote, go ahead. It doesn’t impact other counties so there cannot be any disenfranchisement. Cook County will get the same 1 vote as any other county.


23 posted on 04/13/2014 6:49:05 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: who knows what evil?; Din Maker
Spot on! I have always wondered why someone hasn’t filed a suit. Conservatives are the ones that have been ‘disenfranchised’.

Thanks - I've wondered about that too... Nice that a few of us are thinking about this...

24 posted on 04/13/2014 6:54:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Nothing makes them scream louder than attempting to reduce their base of fraud and foreigners.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 6:58:49 AM PDT by The Toll (e)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Not even a “smidgen” of voter fraud going on....


26 posted on 04/13/2014 7:04:52 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: GOPJ

That same premise works in Condo Associations or Gated Communities, because at Annual Meetings if you do not show up or send in your proxy on time, the BOD gets to cast your vote for whatever is propsed. Democrats love to be on the Boards of these places because they can ban flags, guns, or signs in the yard that say vote for their opponents.


27 posted on 04/13/2014 7:42:34 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"There is no vote fraud"

That's why if you camped out in front of one of the 100%+ voting Philadelphia city precincts with a video camera to record who goes in and who comes out on election day, to compare with the "recorded numbers", you would be hit with a slew of federal felony charges so fast it would make your head spin.

Eric "Lying Weasel Felon" Holder would be the head of the DO"J" prosecution team...

28 posted on 04/13/2014 7:43:12 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Kackikat
That same premise works in Condo Associations or Gated Communities, because at Annual Meetings if you do not show up or send in your proxy on time, the BOD gets to cast your vote ...

How private condo organizations set up their rules is beyond me...

The difference is: it's NOT legal to steal a person's vote in a State or Federal election because someone chose NOT to vote. If I had my way, one of the choices on a ballot would be 'none of the above'...kind of a universal protest vote.

The United States isn't a corrupt condo organization as much as democrats wish it was - thanks for sharing your comments...

29 posted on 04/13/2014 7:59:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: trebb

n/p, we’ll just have George Bailey glue Zuzu’s petals back on & everything will be OK ....


30 posted on 04/13/2014 8:13:14 AM PDT by mikrofon (Sunday BUMP)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Voting is done by precinct, instead of by city or by county, so the number of voters arriving won’t overwhelm the facility.

So, with the bloc of registered voters broken up into manageable chunks, why is it so difficult to cull the deceased from the voter lists, or verify the names and addresses of the living? Can’t they assign ONE precinct worker to spend a few hours a year cleaning up the list? Hell, I’m sure somebody would happily volunteer to pay for such an effort!

As for the problem identified in North Carolina, each one of those 35K “double” voters should be flagged on the voter list. A little red dot next to their name should be enough. When they show up next time, have the nice police officer come over and ask them a few questions. (I’ve never seen a voting place that DIDN’T have a detail cop on hand.)

And if all that isn’t enough, there’s alway the bottle of purple ink, a la Iraq. One vote, dip the finger and you’re done for the day. Better yet, the purple ink couldn’t be scammed, as even Voter ID might by. (Though I agree that early voting, same-day registration and most absentee voting all need to go.)

Fraudulent voting is such a huge threat to our system of Constitutional governance, yet the solutions seem so cheap and easy. I don’t get it. At the very least, volunteer to be a “poll watcher” for your precinct.


31 posted on 04/13/2014 8:17:22 AM PDT by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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To: Rapscallion

Also true of college students who attend college out of state. I’m not saying a lot do this, but it is very very easy to do.


32 posted on 04/13/2014 8:17:49 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

sharing a name, birth date and Social Security number

Just a coincidence.


33 posted on 04/13/2014 9:21:09 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; xzins

I had occasion to check on the disability status of someone with a representative from the EDD.

When I provided them the Social Security number she had provided in order to collect benefits, they told me that there were at least 10 other people using that Social Security Number.

Of course the EDD was paying her benefits even though she provided them with a false social security number. How are we to know she isn’t working under a different social security number and collecting benefits at the same time?

If you or I gave a false social security number to get disability benefits, we’d go to jail. Illegal aliens, however, get treated like royalty when they break the laws.

Americans are second class citizens in their own country!


34 posted on 04/13/2014 10:26:35 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Still not a peep of this story in the Charlotte Observer. Although they continue to hammer the voter idea law pretty hard...


35 posted on 04/13/2014 10:35:05 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: P-Marlowe; afraidfortherepublic
If you or I gave a false social security number to get disability benefits, we’d go to jail. Illegal aliens, however, get treated like royalty when they break the laws.

Ya know, P-M, it is not a hard thing for a computer to compile a list of social security numbers receiving benefits. Nor is it hard to sort them and see how many names are using any given number.

It's like the billion dollar web site, the billion dollar failed solar company, etc.

They're just handing out money to their friends.

I'll bet we could easily exist on the US gross receipts only, without any borrowing at all, if we'd just rid ourselves of waste, fraud, and abuse.

36 posted on 04/13/2014 11:44:03 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I expect to see cross impact data from all 50 states eventually not just 28, and summary reports from other states besides North Carolina.


37 posted on 04/13/2014 11:55:28 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
This is mistaken. The report identified 35,750 people who voted in NC sharing a name and birthdate (not a social security number) with voters elsewhere. There were around 750 people who matched name, birthdate and social security.

Were the social security numbers for the other 35,000 people compared and found not to match up or were they not compared at all? The article doesn't state which of these possibilities is the case.

38 posted on 04/13/2014 11:56:12 AM PDT by Bob
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To: luvbach1

Yep, they could cry anything they want to... but we’re gonna catch ‘em.


39 posted on 04/13/2014 12:30:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: Din Maker

If we sue them things will change. Stealing my vote is a civil rights issue... When democrats vote people who don’t show up - including the dead - the destroys the power of my vote.

That makes their theft a civil rights issue. We take this to the Supreme Court and it’s back to verifiable paper ballots and ZERO cheating unless a person wants to go to prison.


40 posted on 04/13/2014 12:38:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
You mean to tell me that you would deny a citizen the franchise, simply because he or she or it is respirationally challenged?

LOL - good on Lonesome... the 'dead' - respirationally challenged...

41 posted on 04/13/2014 12:39:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
It’s an article of the faith of the Democrats that voter fraud is nothing to worry about because it never happens.

This is not true. The Democrats know that vote fraud occurs, because they rely on it to win many elections. Their saying that it never happens is the lie they use to try to prevent measures that would insure election integrity.

42 posted on 04/13/2014 5:16:59 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
It’s an article of the faith of the Democrats that voter fraud is nothing to worry about because it never happens.

This is not true. The Democrats know that vote fraud occurs, because they rely on it to win many elections. Their saying that it never happens is the lie they use to try to prevent measures that would insure election integrity.

43 posted on 04/13/2014 5:16:59 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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