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DEA raids woman`s Shorewood home after she shops at garden center, (Illinois)
CHICAGO (FOX 32 News) ^ | Apr 12, 2014

Posted on 04/13/2014 8:56:24 AM PDT by KeyLargo

DEA raids woman`s Shorewood home after she shops at garden center

Posted: Apr 12, 2014 CHICAGO (FOX 32 News) -

A woman in the southwest suburbs says she woke up to find armed DEA agents pointing guns at her -- all because she shopped at a hydroponic garden center.

Angela Kirkling was driven out of her bed in Shorewood at gunpoint. The DEA had started investigating her because she had made a purchase at a hydroponics shop.

Agents say they thought she was growing pot indoors. Police had also been digging through her garbage and tracking her electrical bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxchicago.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: cops; dea; fourthamendment; govtabuse; tyranny
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1 posted on 04/13/2014 8:56:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
No wonder those poor soldiers at Ft. Hood couldn't defend themselves.

The DEA, The BLM and all the other government bureaucracies are bogarting all the guns.

2 posted on 04/13/2014 8:59:21 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: KeyLargo

Unbelievable. Hope she sues the pants off of them.


3 posted on 04/13/2014 8:59:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: KeyLargo
Agents say they thought she was growing pot indoors.

Ah. They THOUGHT she was growing pot. Well, by all means then, go ahead, violate every right she is inalienably endowed with.

4 posted on 04/13/2014 9:00:56 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ilovesarah2012
The homeowner needs gardening tips from Moochelle.
5 posted on 04/13/2014 9:01:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

This seems silly
How much did she buy?
was just enough for her personal use IF in fact she was going to raise mj
or was it such a huge amount she was opening a ‘dealership”


6 posted on 04/13/2014 9:02:12 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: ilovesarah2012

it’s a sign of how bad things have gotten in this country under Obama that my first thought when reading this was that it sounds to me like a setup involving this woman and the Obama DEA intended to provoke pro-marijuana-legalization stories in the Chicago papers.


7 posted on 04/13/2014 9:02:58 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’m beginning to wonder when stuff like this will start happening to people who shop at Army/Navy stores or gun shows.


8 posted on 04/13/2014 9:02:58 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: KeyLargo

When these goons start wondering whether they’ll go home at night is when they’ll stop this crap.


9 posted on 04/13/2014 9:04:15 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: KeyLargo

It was pretty well known here in Colorado Springs if you did hydroponics you were likely being watched by somebody. Profiling nobody cares about I guess.


10 posted on 04/13/2014 9:04:38 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

She is facing misdemeanor possession charges, but a decent lawyer should be able to challenge those, based on scope of the warrant.


11 posted on 04/13/2014 9:04:41 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: KeyLargo
Agents say they thought she was growing pot indoors.

Sounds like probable cause to me! Woohoo War on Drugs!
12 posted on 04/13/2014 9:05:21 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Damned straight !


13 posted on 04/13/2014 9:06:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: KeyLargo

The feds operate on the legal standard of “possible cause”.


14 posted on 04/13/2014 9:07:27 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Antihero101607

I’d be willing to hazard a guess. Methinks she’s probably got another aspect to her that set them off. Whether a commenter in an online forum, wrote a ‘letter to the editor’, or even complained at the Post Office or other government office about incompetents, etc., she was targeted. Goons don’t need a reason for force. If they don’t have one, they’ll make it up.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 9:07:42 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: andyk

The po-lice have lost their collective mind.


16 posted on 04/13/2014 9:07:48 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: KeyLargo
A fuller report at HuffPost.

Classic Big Brother mindset:
"Kaminski wrote that he then sifted through Kirking's household trash, detecting "a strong odor of green cannabis" in one plastic trash bag, and compared her home's electrical bill to that of her neighbors, finding that it was higher. Another officer conducted a field test on a green plant stem, which allegedly tested positive for marijuana. That was enough for a judge to sign a warrant."

and this corker of rationale (italics mine):

"An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow."

These people reach new heights of idiocy each day.

17 posted on 04/13/2014 9:11:58 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: KeyLargo

I need a new pressure cooker, mine is 14 years old. Saw one on Amazon I like but I am scared to buy it because I would probably get the same treatment as this woman.

Closest thing they will get to a bomb at my house is the day after Hambeens and cornbread! LOL


18 posted on 04/13/2014 9:12:29 AM PDT by dforest
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To: KeyLargo

The drug warriors support this sort of activity by the feds.


19 posted on 04/13/2014 9:13:48 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: KeyLargo
I'm surprised; the "cow/sow/moose", Isn't eating the garden.

20 posted on 04/13/2014 9:13:53 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Oatka

A true Yossarian moment.


21 posted on 04/13/2014 9:20:31 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Michelle Leonhart, head of DEA
22 posted on 04/13/2014 9:27:12 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: DonaldC
It was pretty well known here in Colorado Springs if you did hydroponics you were likely being watched by somebody.

I wonder if that applies to Amazon/Internet purchases? Wouldn't that level of opportunistic surveillance suck? It's a looting excuse.

23 posted on 04/13/2014 9:29:04 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: dforest

If you have drain cleaner, clorox, pvc pipe or a whole host of other items then you have bomb making materials.


24 posted on 04/13/2014 9:30:26 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: KeyLargo

This is clearly covered under the “cudda” clause in the constitution..

As is “she cudda been growing pot” so we have a right to search her house.

Don’t buy a shovel or “you cudda been trying to bury a body”.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 9:34:10 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Gaffer

No it could stop before this. The goons will mistreat whoever they are allowed to mistreat. The goons that were content to sick dogs and fire hoses on protesters in Birmingham in the 1960s were a kin to the goons where were willing to mistreat abortion protester in Atlanta in recent decades. The goons will always be with us seeking government jobs so they can abuse others.

The question is what will our laws allow them to get away with. If the courts and the Congress make them respect the 4th amendment, they will look for others to abuse, but to keep their power they will do as told.


26 posted on 04/13/2014 9:34:14 AM PDT by JLS
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To: driftdiver

“Drain cleaner, Clorox, PVC pipe “

That means just about every homeowner in the u.s. is in that category... extra pipe left over from that repair job, the stuff used to clean out said pipe, and everyday cleaning agents.... :0


27 posted on 04/13/2014 9:34:55 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: KeyLargo

BrownShirt tipping point alert.

Just the beginning...........


28 posted on 04/13/2014 9:36:04 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: KeyLargo
See lower left girl with knife...in post 3 picture...looks ironically like Chicago Cutlery...

"...Slowly I turned...inch by inch...closer... just one more step and...

29 posted on 04/13/2014 9:37:10 AM PDT by TruthRespecter
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To: KeyLargo

How much did that little act of domestic terrorism cost the taxpayers, and which is worse, the suspected offense, or the intended cure?


30 posted on 04/13/2014 9:37:47 AM PDT by pallis
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To: driftdiver

I guess that means all of us then.


31 posted on 04/13/2014 9:38:11 AM PDT by dforest
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To: USNBandit

“She is facing misdemeanor possession charges...”

So she was a dope head. Cops were on to something.

Article heading makes it seem like she was little Miss Totally Innocent.


32 posted on 04/13/2014 9:38:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: JLS
The question is what will our laws allow them to get away with.

Practically, our laws are a moot point right now. They are being flaunted daily by this Presidency. Further, if anyone expects our RINO Congress to do anything about it, they are sorely mistaken.

We are INFESTED with rabid ideologues wanting all the power and control they can gain over us, and those RINOs currently in power all to willing to cede the finer points [ha!] of politics to subservient loyal opposition bathed in second tier power. They are all despicable. You can see this by all the RINO appeasers choosing to desert their posts for greener retirement pastures [dachas]. They have no shame.

33 posted on 04/13/2014 9:42:08 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: KeyLargo

We need an exit strategy for America’s longest useless war, the war on drugs.


34 posted on 04/13/2014 9:42:29 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’d bet you she’s done more than a few lines.


35 posted on 04/13/2014 9:42:41 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: andyk

Even if she was guilty of growing pot indoors I don’t understand where people have gotten to the point that it would merit police busting into her home and waking her up at gunpoint. If she had a gun on her bed stand for protection and made movement to grab it, not knowing that they were there to “serve and protect”, the police could have killed her and the punishment would have fit the crime.


36 posted on 04/13/2014 9:43:21 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: KeyLargo

Were any dogs shot during this raid?


37 posted on 04/13/2014 9:43:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Oatka
An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow.

So if you have weed in your trash you are a pot grower. If you do not have weed in your trash you are a well disciplined pot grower.

38 posted on 04/13/2014 9:44:37 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: ifinnegan

I’m shaking my head out of disbelief that anyone would merit so much as a sideways glance for personal possession/growing these days. Incredible waste of taxpayer-paid resources.


39 posted on 04/13/2014 9:45:29 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: Oatka

Is that the same force that found tea used for iced tea in a family’s garbage and busted into their home?


40 posted on 04/13/2014 9:45:31 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: KeyLargo
..her, too. btw; "moose", is pural, Isn't it.

41 posted on 04/13/2014 9:48:30 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Rusty0604

Agreed. It’s insanity. And there are people on this very forum who are okay with it.


42 posted on 04/13/2014 9:48:51 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: KeyLargo
the DEA, AKA - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT... and this wasn't handled by the local doughnut munchers because???
43 posted on 04/13/2014 9:50:31 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: KeyLargo

smart guys think that you only use hydroponics for dope grows....too bad they nothing about growing your own FOOD


44 posted on 04/13/2014 9:52:29 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: steve86

“Incredible waste of taxpayer-paid resources.”

As opposed to...?

“Im shaking my head out of disbelief that anyone would merit so much as a sideways glance for personal possession/growing these days.”

What are laws for or about?

To selectively enforce? The cops can say, well, we don’t believe in enforcing this law, so we don’t.

That’s Obama Holder abuse of power.


45 posted on 04/13/2014 9:56:51 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: KeyLargo
what has been seen photo: what has been seen funny-pictures-scared-cat-naked-guy.jpg "Michelle Leonhart, head of DEA" .... Youse mus mean BKA--boner killers of America! How come dey all so scary lookin'??
46 posted on 04/13/2014 9:58:17 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: ifinnegan

So she was a dope head. Cops were on to something.....So? She may be. The warrant was a hell of a lot more illegal than anything they might charge her with. Can you spell misdemeanor against willfully submitting false cause for a warrant to seize property, invading a persons right to liberty?


47 posted on 04/13/2014 9:59:54 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: driftdiver
If you bought one of these, in the past 5-7yrs, you're definitely on a "list" and certainly being watched.


48 posted on 04/13/2014 10:01:49 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Pilsner

Smart growers know you compost compost compost!!


49 posted on 04/13/2014 10:04:44 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Safetgiver

“So?”

The nihilist mantra.

So? Who cares if society has been and continues to be destroyed by drug use?

So what?


50 posted on 04/13/2014 10:05:10 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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