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Canada scraps millionaire visa scheme, ‘dumps 46,000 Chinese applications’
The South China Morning Post ^ | February 26, 2014 | Ian Young and Keith Zhai

Posted on 04/13/2014 4:02:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Tens of thousands of Chinese millionaires face an uncertain future after Canada's government moved to scrap its controversial investor visa scheme, which has allowed waves of rich Hongkongers and mainland Chinese to immigrate since 1986.

The surprise announcement was made in Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's budget, delivered to parliament in Ottawa on Tuesday. An estimated 45,500 mainland Chinese in the queue for visas in Hong Kong will have their applications "eliminated" and their fees returned.

The announcement came less than a week after the South China Morning Post revealed how the scheme was overwhelmed by an influx of applications from mainland millionaires at Canada's Hong Kong consulate. Applications to the scheme were frozen in 2012 as a result, as immigration staff struggled to clear the backlog.

"For decades, [the investor scheme] has significantly undervalued Canadian permanent residence, providing a pathway to Canadian citizenship in exchange for a guaranteed loan that is significantly less than our peer countries require," Flaherty's budget said.

Under the scheme, would-be migrants worth a minimum of C$1.6 million (HK$11.2 million) loaned the government C$800,000 interest-free for a period of five years. The simplicity and low relative cost of the risk-free scheme made it the world's most popular wealth migration programme.

A parallel investor migration scheme run by Quebec remains open, although it has been capped at a modest 1,750 applicants per year, with a maximum 1,200 from any one country.

Flaherty also announced the scrapping of a smaller economic migration scheme for entrepreneurs. Citizenship and Immigration Canada said yesterday that the investor queue stood at 65,000, and 70 per cent of the backlog, as of January last year, was made up of mainlanders whose applications were being processed in Hong Kong. That suggests about 45,500 mainlanders queuing via the SAR will have their applications scrapped

The Immigrant Investor Programme, which has brought about 185,000 migrants to Canada, was instrumental in facilitating an exodus of rich Hongkongers in the wake of the 1989 Tiananmen crackdown and in the run-up to the handover. More than 30,000 Hongkongers immigrated using the scheme. About 67,000 mainlanders have migrated to Canada under the IIP.

Ma Xiaoxue, an agent with immigration consultancy firm Well Trend in Beijing, said the change would have little effect as most firms started adjusting the direction of their businesses two years ago when the scheme was frozen.

"We haven't handled investment immigration to Canada for a long time. We don't care about the new rule," said Ma.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: canada; china; immigration; millionaires; wealth
Anyone know if the USA has such a program?
1 posted on 04/13/2014 4:02:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well it’s better to let them in if they can support themselves than if they can’t


2 posted on 04/13/2014 4:03:43 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Yabut ... Chinatown with a French accent ?


3 posted on 04/13/2014 4:05:02 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh yes. And now those 46,000 will be coming here.


4 posted on 04/13/2014 4:08:42 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: yldstrk

Asians vote more heavily Democrat than Hispanics.


5 posted on 04/13/2014 4:09:38 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On the positive side, Harry Reid is offering the dumped applications “Prime Nevada Land” at $42,000 per square foot. Visa included.


6 posted on 04/13/2014 4:10:28 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: yldstrk

Couple Lived On $1.2m Yacht In Palm Beach While Collecting Welfare And Food Stamps
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3138191/posts


7 posted on 04/13/2014 4:10:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Squawk 8888
Anyone know if the USA has such a program?

I think we did at one time...and it seems possible that we still do.I've followed this type of plan fairly closely largely because Australia once had a plan of this sort that I was interested in.I'm also pretty sure that Britain once had such a plan.IMO these plans,carefully and selectively designed and implemented,make sense.Bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars in targeted investments..."targeted" meaning limited to a list of opportunities set up by the government...seems to be a no brainer when the cost is simply a Green Card or its equivalent (that's all that Australia was offering,not citizenship).

8 posted on 04/13/2014 4:11:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, you do. Chinese nationals have been buying commercial real estate in order to expedite their immigrant status. I know of one fellow who bought a boarded up tavern in rural Washington State for this purpose. The tavern will not be re-opened. The purpose was not to operate a tavern. It is a commercial property with low property taxes.


9 posted on 04/13/2014 4:12:10 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From what I read, if you loaned Canada the money, you would never see it again.


10 posted on 04/13/2014 4:15:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As we should do here with the stupid EB-5 program.


11 posted on 04/13/2014 4:19:05 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

12 posted on 04/13/2014 4:19:23 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I’m guessing that’s true of most of these plans and the immigrants “bake that into the cake” as they say.


13 posted on 04/13/2014 4:19:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Squawk 8888

Sign me up, please


14 posted on 04/13/2014 4:20:37 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I’m guessing that’s true of most of these plans and the immigrants “bake that into the cake” as they say.”

Most places are more honest. Immigrants did know the experience of other immigrants, though and did loan the money knowing they would not get it back.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 4:21:05 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: blackdog
On the positive side, Harry Reid is offering the dumped applications “Prime Nevada Land” at $42,000 per square foot. Visa included.

Is it land stolen from Nevada ranchers?

16 posted on 04/13/2014 4:23:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The US program is slightly different.

Persons who will invest $500,000 to $1 million in a job-creating enterprise that employs at least 10 full time U.S. workers.

Visas per year: 10,000


17 posted on 04/13/2014 4:29:19 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Parmenio
Oh yes. And now those 46,000 will be coming here.

If they learn to speak English, pass the citizenship test and take the oath of citizenship, then I say

GREAT!

18 posted on 04/13/2014 4:32:08 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes we have the same deal here. Any Chinese that can come in with $1 million and create 5 jobs gets a green card.


19 posted on 04/13/2014 4:32:21 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes.

Every country in the world is coming to its senses on immigration, except this one.

Look at the actions Saudi Arabia, Israel, Australia have taken in just the last year. Common sense policies we should emulate: deport illegals, fence the border, turn away bogus “refugees.”


20 posted on 04/13/2014 4:34:51 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: BwanaNdege
...which has allowed waves of rich Hongkongers and mainland Chinese to immigrate since 1986.

Ooops! I read this clause but overlooked the "visa" prior to it. Even so, the USA can use entrepreneurs with capital.

21 posted on 04/13/2014 4:38:40 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This could get real interesting!


22 posted on 04/13/2014 4:41:56 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: spyone

Done!


23 posted on 04/13/2014 4:53:25 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Chinese (mainland China) have had thousands of years to practice their scams. They’ve gotten good at it.


24 posted on 04/13/2014 4:56:26 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The vast majority of these Chinese immigrants have landed in Vancouver British Columbia.

College students attend UBC...

...University of a Billion Chinese.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 5:27:47 PM PDT by proudpapa (Scott Walker - 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess there was sum ting wong with the program.


26 posted on 04/13/2014 5:30:23 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As an ex-canuck who goes back to canada 3 x a year, the Chinese pretty much own canada, especially Vancouver BC. Small cities such as Richmond in the Vancouver area is more vibrant and that’s the reason why the local population (aka native whites) detest the Chinese. Try reading the vancouver Craigslist rants page and it’s pretty much racist.

There’s a reason why Vancouver since the 90’s has been jokingly called Hongcouver.


27 posted on 04/13/2014 5:48:02 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: proudpapa

“College students attend UBC...

...University of a Billion Chinese.”

Old joke as I;m originally a BC boy. The new name being passed around is canada is now called Chinada. Try using an ATM and it’s English THEN Chinese 2nd as languages vs French which is the official language of canada. In DT vancouver, they own the city.


28 posted on 04/13/2014 5:50:31 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Fascinating cartoon, the fear that Americans had was that the Chinese from one side and the Irish from the other would “take over” the US.

Although the Chinese had little or no impact on US society beyond China towns in each city there is no doubt that the feared impact of the Irish (and later, Italian, Jewish and now Hispanic) immigration did in some respects come to pass.

The mass immigration of the late 19th Century, whilst looked at now benignly did massively transform US society and politics.

The big city political machines that exist today and which favour the Democrats and are steeped in corruption were a product of the post-Famine Irish immigration. Get jobs for the boys, suck as much as possible from the government teat and keep the native-born blacks in their “proper” place; at the bottom of the heap.

Yes America, you’ve got those charming Irish immigrants to thank for your political situation today, makes you feel all sentimental for the Oul’ Sod, doesn’t it?

Reminds me of the scene from Blazing Saddles, “we’ll take the N*****s, we’ll take the C*****s, but we won’t take the Irish!”


29 posted on 04/13/2014 6:15:57 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Yes we have the same deal here. Any Chinese that can come in with $1 million and create 5 jobs gets a green card.”

The trouble is they conveniently hire 5 fellow Chinese to fill those jobs.


30 posted on 04/13/2014 6:16:26 PM PDT by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Oh Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say welcome to America.
They are the type of immigrants this country needs.


31 posted on 04/13/2014 6:41:54 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: proudpapa
The vast majority of these Chinese immigrants have landed in Vancouver Hongcouver, British Columbia.
32 posted on 04/13/2014 7:10:08 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Fishing-guy

>> They are the type of immigrants this country needs <<

I’m with you. I’ll take a legal Chinese or Vietnamese millionaire any day, versus an illegal Honduran or Nicaraguan with nothing but the (wet) shirt on his back.


33 posted on 04/13/2014 7:55:22 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

I’ve lived in Vancouver my whole life. The Chinese are not hated at all. They are great citizens in general. In the second generation, when language issues are past, it doesn’t make a hoot of difference. Any grumblings come from kids who grew up in Vancouver but are now priced out of the real estate market and live out in the suburbs due to economics, not choice.


34 posted on 04/13/2014 9:54:29 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

The Americans feared any non-WASP population; the Irish were simply the first. The legal discrimination against them forced them into the machines, and the leaders of those took the country to dark places.

The fears of the Protestants who founded this country were well founded indeed.


35 posted on 04/14/2014 4:22:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: BwanaNdege

No thank you. I want new citizens who actually want to be Americans. Most of those people:

1.) Will retain their Chinese citizenship
2.) Will have no particular allegiance to the U.S.
3.) Will not even live in the U.S.
4.) Only want U.S. citizenship as a bolthole in case (when) things go bad in China


36 posted on 04/14/2014 6:32:39 AM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Parmenio

There is also the added bonus that many are here to help their country destroy us.


37 posted on 04/15/2014 11:36:36 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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