Skip to comments.US angry with Israel's 'neutrality' over Ukrainian crisis
Posted on 04/13/2014 5:31:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot
US officials expressed anger over Israel's policy of "non-interference" with the Russian annexation of the Crimea; Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported.
A US official told the paper that the White House was disappointed with Israel's absence from the UN General Assembly meeting two weeks ago to vote on condemning Russia's military invasion of the Crimea and call to maintain Ukraine's territorial integrity.
"We have been consulting closely on Ukraine not only with our partners and allies around the world. Obviously we are looking to the entire international community to condemn Russia's actions and to support Ukraine, so we were surprised to see that Israel did not join the large majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine's territorial integrity at the United Nations. Israel's justification that it did not attend the meeting due to the Foreign Ministry strike is unacceptable" said the senior US official.
The US official said that Washington is particularly angry with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's failure to publically support the US position on the crisis.
According to Haaretz the US is especially disappointed with FM Lieberman who equated Israel's relations with the United States to its relations with Russia. Lieberman is reported to have told Channel 9 that Israel has "good and trusting relations with the Americans and the Russians, and our experience has been very positive with both sides". The official said "I do not understand this point of view, which calls for Israel to be dragged into this quagmire".
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The US does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Israel understands the Russians are now in the same non-recognition boat with the West.
Most of the countries of the world did not take a position. Why single Israel out?
F the US.
Russia has many hostages.
We don’t dis Israel...our subversive White house does with the leadership of Satan.
oops, sorry—by “we,” I meant the U.S. State Department and the rest of the Administration.
Get over it. The US disses Israel every chance it gets.
Because the administration of the USA does not represent the citizens of the USA.
Enough said !
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And what does the U.S. now propose?
Hopeless and helpless before the Russians; first convincing the Ukranians to give up their military and seek peace with the Russians, only to abandon them to feeble “sanctions,”
Obama and Kerry are hopeless and helpless disasters, reaching back 6 years to the removal of NATO defenses from Poland. Reaching back 6 years to a policy of “we can get along.” Reaching back 3 years to assuring Putin, via Medvedev that “once I am re-elected I can help.”
They can’t solve it now because they have given up so much in the past. Not a penny’s worth of leverage. And here is Sec. Def. Hagel cutting the muscle out of the U.S. Military.
What a bunch of weenies.
Israel is on its own and they know it. They owe the US NOTHING. They hate Obama and he hates them.
For our Executive Branch to now whine about Israel not supporting us in the UN is beyond pitiful. It is the weakest form of idiocy that I have ever witnessed.
That's really disturbing.
Why is it Israel’s concern?
Ukrainians weren’t exactly very kind to Jews during the war.
Would you say the same if the US does not support Israel in the UN and Netanyahu "whines" about it?
“Why is it Israels concern? Ukrainians werent exactly very kind to Jews during the war.”
I’d bet that history has a LOT to do with it.
We won’t even recognize their capital. Why would they help ketchup-face?
Israel doesn’t owe the US crap at this point.
Is this another clever satire?
Who is US black man?
“That’s really disturbing.”
Does your knee hurt when it jerks like that? When did this become a discussion about Israel being a Jewish state?? Stay on topic.
Oh, and for what it's worth ... Netanyahu whines all over the world. But it seems to work for him.
Yes, I do. I hope I'm not the only one holding this view.
It doesn't work that way. Any time the US needs to pass a resolution it introduces, they specifically ask Israel not to support it. Israel support of any resolution will automatically result in dozens of opposing votes.
When we support Israel, we oppose the world. When we need the world's support, we politely ask Israel to abstain.
The fact that this Administration doesn't understand this screams of incompetence and naivete. And now they want to make Israel a scapegoat for their own failure at leadership? This is not the America I was born in.
When your foreign policy is incoherent, and driven by the ideological delusions of a criminally insane president, all sorts of weird things are liable to happen, none of them good.
Would you say that Israel carries the same weight in world affairs as the US? If not, then your question is irrelevant and frankly rather obtuse.
The United States, otherwise known as C.H.A.O.S.
You brought it up, whether you meant to or not.
Nonsense. I did not in any way bring up the "Jewish State" issue. Go away and use your "splatter and see what sticks to the wall" approach to a rational discussion with someone else.
This is already an excellent answer in itself. But there are additional reasons. For example, why should Israel side with the loser against the winner? (Whatever you say, Ukraine lost this round, and is standing ready to lose another, all due to internal strife.)
Israel is a small country. It has to choose partners wisely. Russia is huge, and it is friendly, and about 20% of Israel's population speaks Russian. Only an idiot would start making waves against Russia, and only a patented idiot (or Kerry) would think that this could be effective. Israel clearly sees that the USA wants to use Israel as an expendable tool. There is no reason to become involved. The international arena is not much different from the martial arts arena; the weak get beaten up, the strong rise. The international law is only effective to the extent that the signers are willing to honor. If a treaty becomes inconvenient, the country leaves the treaty. It's a very different world out there.
In addition to all that, Israel is located in a very fluid geography. Israel already controls territories that it acquired in a war. It is surrounded by less than friendly states. Additional territories can be acquired in the future from excessively restless neighbors, or from neighbors that become failed states and threaten Israel. Lines on maps are not permanent; they only represent the current situation on the ground. As the situation changes, so do the lines. Believing in anything else is wishful thinking: borders are established by the people, and they can be changed by the people. For example:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, [...]
No, it's neither irrelevant or obtuse, rather or otherwise.
I have been curious for two decades about why the US considers Israel a "great" geopolitical ally. To date, no one has been able to give a non-emotional answer.
I remain curious.
There's a lot of bad blood on both sides. But in my opinion Netanyahu made a grand strategic blunder during his meeting with Obama when as a guest of the President, in the oval office, Netanyahu publically lectured the President of the United States about the 1967 borders.
Like Obama or hate him, this was a diplomatic mistake for the history books. It set the tone for the next eight years. That Obama hasn't seriously reduced aid to Israel is the unsung miracle.
So, yes, Israel is dissed by this administration. But Israel has not always shown restraint or respect either.
Wrong, Virginia! Out of the gate, hell, before Obama userped the White House, he was saying things about Israel that reporters refused to release to the public, because they knew beyond a doubt that he wouldn’t be elected dog catcher!
The very first meeting with Netanyahu, Obama treated him like dirt and shamed the United States. Nothing Obama has done since has been any better.
So according to you, Netanyahu is at fault? PHHHHHHTTTT!
Your choice of Obama over Netanyahu says a lot. Perhaps your theology or ethnicity has trumped whatever you think is your “conservative” perspective.
OBAMA is neutral about Israel’s very survival. What does he expect?
I don’t blame Israel. Helping Kerry and Obastard gets them nothing but the back of the hand for their efforts.
A wait and see game for what the ever evolving King Amabo will will evolve to.
Tough sh*t for the US; Obama has long since p*ssed away any political capital he may once have had in Israel.
This is not a moral equivalency The "bad blood" we have today is the fault of the Muslims. They have reject peace offers, double crossed Israel and US, and broken past treaties like twigs.
I really have no idea as to your beliefs in the truth of scripture, but my world view comes through that lens.
"So the LORD gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their ancestors, and they took possession of it and settled there."
Netanyahu publically lectured the President of the United States about the 1967 borders.
Netanyahu was betrayed by Obama and set up, and he fought back for Israel and his people. The "1967 borders" issue is the same type of manufactured issue as the "right of return" and the very notion of "Palestinians" in the first place.
From God's perspective, there are no "1967" borders. There is no such thing as the "Palestinians" (they are primarily Jordanians and Syrians and they have their own "homeland") and they cannot return to a land that God did not give them.
The Creator of you and I, the King of the Universe, the One True God, the Alpha and the Omega - declared that these are the borders of His people Israel.
God also blesses those that bless Israel, and curses those who curse her.
Obama has acted demonically towards Israel. There is no doubt what he is doing. You speak of foreign aid - which is voted for by Congress in one single package, year after year - for every nation that receives foreign aid. That is the only way to get the entire foreign aid bill through Congress and the White House. It has been this way for decades. Obama was not able to reduce foreign aid to Israel (although I am certain he wanted to), but Obama DID increase aid to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas by BILLIONS through direct aid and dollars siphoned off from DoD and the State Department.
You defend evil, and you attack that which God defends.
Good luck to you.
Well said. There is an evil that is masked by attempts to look even-handed toward the Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians.” It becomes quite obvious when people start playing on what they think is moral equivalence. Obama isn’t right on anything, so this one should be a no-brainer.
It’s not like the US has been particularly supportive of Israels positions in the last 6 years.
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