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US angry with Israel's 'neutrality' over Ukrainian crisis
Middle East Monitor ^ | 13 April 14 | Staff

Posted on 04/13/2014 5:31:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot

US officials expressed anger over Israel's policy of "non-interference" with the Russian annexation of the Crimea; Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported.

A US official told the paper that the White House was disappointed with Israel's absence from the UN General Assembly meeting two weeks ago to vote on condemning Russia's military invasion of the Crimea and call to maintain Ukraine's territorial integrity.

"We have been consulting closely on Ukraine not only with our partners and allies around the world. Obviously we are looking to the entire international community to condemn Russia's actions and to support Ukraine, so we were surprised to see that Israel did not join the large majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine's territorial integrity at the United Nations. Israel's justification that it did not attend the meeting due to the Foreign Ministry strike is unacceptable" said the senior US official.

The US official said that Washington is particularly angry with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's failure to publically support the US position on the crisis.

According to Haaretz the US is especially disappointed with FM Lieberman who equated Israel's relations with the United States to its relations with Russia. Lieberman is reported to have told Channel 9 that Israel has "good and trusting relations with the Americans and the Russians, and our experience has been very positive with both sides". The official said "I do not understand this point of view, which calls for Israel to be dragged into this quagmire".

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; kerry; obama; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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To: SkyPilot

We won’t even recognize their capital. Why would they help ketchup-face?


21 posted on 04/13/2014 6:08:26 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SkyPilot

Israel doesn’t owe the US crap at this point.


22 posted on 04/13/2014 6:09:49 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SkyPilot

Is this another clever satire?


23 posted on 04/13/2014 6:10:53 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Islamunism = Facism + Islam : Islamunist = someone that adheres to Islamunism.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Would you say the same if the US does not support Israel in the UN and Netanyahu "whines" about it?

Please. The US is a superpower, and Netanyahu has never whined about a thing in his life. Other than Israel being the Jewish State, do you have other problems with Israel?
24 posted on 04/13/2014 6:18:57 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: SkyPilot
US angry with Israel's 'neutrality' over Ukrainian crisis

Who is US black man?

25 posted on 04/13/2014 6:20:07 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

“That’s really disturbing.”

Ya think?


26 posted on 04/13/2014 6:22:40 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Tzfat
Please. The US is a superpower, and Netanyahu has never whined about a thing in his life. Other than Israel being the Jewish State, do you have other problems with Israel?

Does your knee hurt when it jerks like that? When did this become a discussion about Israel being a Jewish state?? Stay on topic.

Oh, and for what it's worth ... Netanyahu whines all over the world. But it seems to work for him.

27 posted on 04/13/2014 6:41:41 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Ya think?

Yes, I do. I hope I'm not the only one holding this view.

28 posted on 04/13/2014 6:43:40 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Would you say the same if the US does not support Israel in the UN and Netanyahu "whines" about it?

It doesn't work that way. Any time the US needs to pass a resolution it introduces, they specifically ask Israel not to support it. Israel support of any resolution will automatically result in dozens of opposing votes.

When we support Israel, we oppose the world. When we need the world's support, we politely ask Israel to abstain.

The fact that this Administration doesn't understand this screams of incompetence and naivete. And now they want to make Israel a scapegoat for their own failure at leadership? This is not the America I was born in.

29 posted on 04/13/2014 6:50:35 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: goldstategop
Why single Israel out?

When your foreign policy is incoherent, and driven by the ideological delusions of a criminally insane president, all sorts of weird things are liable to happen, none of them good.

30 posted on 04/13/2014 7:04:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Would you say the same if the US does not support Israel in the UN and Netanyahu "whines" about it?

Would you say that Israel carries the same weight in world affairs as the US? If not, then your question is irrelevant and frankly rather obtuse.

31 posted on 04/13/2014 7:07:26 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BerryDingle
Black man??
32 posted on 04/13/2014 7:08:25 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: tcrlaf
Russia wasn't very kind to Jews either, but Israel has no reason to pick a fight with a very large aggressive country that is acting without regard to international boundaries. They are a tiny nation and don't need that kind of trouble. Let's get real.
33 posted on 04/13/2014 7:11:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Right_in_Virginia
When did this become a discussion about Israel being a Jewish state?

You brought it up, whether you meant to or not.

Funny. Talk about knee jerks... did you feel a twitch in your right arm on this thread?
34 posted on 04/13/2014 7:19:39 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: SkyPilot

The United States, otherwise known as C.H.A.O.S.


35 posted on 04/13/2014 7:21:21 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Tzfat
**When did this become a discussion about Israel being a Jewish state?**

You brought it up, whether you meant to or not.

Nonsense. I did not in any way bring up the "Jewish State" issue. Go away and use your "splatter and see what sticks to the wall" approach to a rational discussion with someone else.

36 posted on 04/13/2014 7:33:43 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: SkyPilot
The official said "I do not understand this point of view, which calls for Israel to be dragged into this quagmire".

This is already an excellent answer in itself. But there are additional reasons. For example, why should Israel side with the loser against the winner? (Whatever you say, Ukraine lost this round, and is standing ready to lose another, all due to internal strife.)

Israel is a small country. It has to choose partners wisely. Russia is huge, and it is friendly, and about 20% of Israel's population speaks Russian. Only an idiot would start making waves against Russia, and only a patented idiot (or Kerry) would think that this could be effective. Israel clearly sees that the USA wants to use Israel as an expendable tool. There is no reason to become involved. The international arena is not much different from the martial arts arena; the weak get beaten up, the strong rise. The international law is only effective to the extent that the signers are willing to honor. If a treaty becomes inconvenient, the country leaves the treaty. It's a very different world out there.

In addition to all that, Israel is located in a very fluid geography. Israel already controls territories that it acquired in a war. It is surrounded by less than friendly states. Additional territories can be acquired in the future from excessively restless neighbors, or from neighbors that become failed states and threaten Israel. Lines on maps are not permanent; they only represent the current situation on the ground. As the situation changes, so do the lines. Believing in anything else is wishful thinking: borders are established by the people, and they can be changed by the people. For example:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, [...]

37 posted on 04/13/2014 7:33:47 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Right_in_Virginia
You said, "Would you say the same if the US does not support Israel in the UN and Netanyahu "whines" about it?"

Real rational discussion point there, "Virginia".

Israel is a tiny country. No other leader has been treated publicly like Obama has treated Netanyahu, and still remained an ally. There is no question about who is the more honorable leader, Obama or Netanyahu - but you seem to have chosen sides. Bad choice, "Virginia". When someone claims to be "Right_in..." and chooses Obama over a solid leader like Netanyahu, we can only conclude there is some other issue at work...
38 posted on 04/13/2014 7:46:15 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: hinckley buzzard
Would you say that Israel carries the same weight in world affairs as the US? If not, then your question is irrelevant and frankly rather obtuse.

No, it's neither irrelevant or obtuse, rather or otherwise.

I have been curious for two decades about why the US considers Israel a "great" geopolitical ally. To date, no one has been able to give a non-emotional answer.

I remain curious.

39 posted on 04/13/2014 7:47:48 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Tzfat
No other leader has been treated publicly like Obama has treated Netanyahu

There's a lot of bad blood on both sides. But in my opinion Netanyahu made a grand strategic blunder during his meeting with Obama when as a guest of the President, in the oval office, Netanyahu publically lectured the President of the United States about the 1967 borders.

Like Obama or hate him, this was a diplomatic mistake for the history books. It set the tone for the next eight years. That Obama hasn't seriously reduced aid to Israel is the unsung miracle.

So, yes, Israel is dissed by this administration. But Israel has not always shown restraint or respect either.

40 posted on 04/13/2014 8:01:38 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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