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Cardio link eyed in race deaths at Rock íní Roll half marathon (Two die in Raleigh)
News Observer ^ | 4/13/14 | Martha Quillin

Posted on 04/14/2014 2:47:45 AM PDT by Libloather

RALEIGH, N.C. — Two runners who died Sunday morning as participants in the Rock ’n’ Roll Marathon may fit the profile of the most common fatalities in such events, according to a Duke sports medicine specialist: men in their 30s with pre-existing, undiagnosed cardio abnormalities.

Saying the runners’ families wanted privacy, race organizers did not release the names of the men who died or give any indication of their causes of death.

“We regret to confirm that two participants passed away at today’s half-marathon,” said Dr. P.Z. Pearce, the event’s medical director. “We are greatly saddened by these tragic losses, and our prayers go out to the each of the runners’ family and friends.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deaths; marathon; race; raleigh

1 posted on 04/14/2014 2:47:45 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

...sucks....


2 posted on 04/14/2014 2:52:24 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Libloather

This is not an uncommon event at marathons.....yet where is the media on it.

Imagine for a second if a few people died from being shot at every marathon.


3 posted on 04/14/2014 2:55:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Libloather

Yikes. As a runner & half-marathoner myself, this scares me. I should get a cardio work up but I’m pretty sure my health insurance wouldn’t feel that’s indicated. Gotta love how the government regulation of the health insurance industry has basically cut us all off from accessing care. Wasn’t the focus of health reform supposed to be preventative medicine? What a joke.


4 posted on 04/14/2014 2:57:47 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Only about 1% of all cardiac deaths occur in people under the age of 35.


5 posted on 04/14/2014 2:59:46 AM PDT by LukeL
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To: LukeL

“Only about 1% of all cardiac deaths occur in people under the age of 35.”

Unless you are a Marathon runner. I’d like to know what percentage of cardio events occur amongst Marathon runners only. Bet the percentage goes up.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 3:06:48 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: flaglady47

I would bet so too. The human body is not designed to run 26.2 miles in under 4 hours.


7 posted on 04/14/2014 3:14:34 AM PDT by LukeL
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To: Libloather
Fwiw, locally, a 16 yr old girl after finishing a half marathon.

Family: Teen runner who died should be inspiration

8 posted on 04/14/2014 3:26:52 AM PDT by csvset
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To: LukeL

I am not saying they make up the majority of cardiac deaths, merely that I read these stories often.


9 posted on 04/14/2014 3:32:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Libloather
100% of people who run die at some point in their lives.

END THE MADNESS. STOP RUNNING. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN.
10 posted on 04/14/2014 3:35:25 AM PDT by arderkrag (To conquer oneself is a greater task than conquering others. - Buddha)
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To: Red in Blue PA

As a runner... It’s an excepted risk.

It’s like running into poor analogies on the Internet.


11 posted on 04/14/2014 3:53:55 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Libloather
If the two who died were running the half-marathon, and there were zero deaths in the full marathon -- the full marathon was much safer than the half-marathon!

"While the deaths are statistically uncommon, races in the Rock ’n’ Roll series have been marred by such tragedies at least 12 times since 2005, including the two in Raleigh on Sunday. Race officials identified the runners who died as men ages 31 and 35."

"While runners’ deaths at races receive widespread attention, they are relatively rare. A study released in 2012 by the New England Journal of Medicine found that of almost 11 million registered participants in marathons and half-marathons between 2000 and mid-2011, there were 59 cardiac arrests, 42 of them fatal."

If the race has been averaging more than 1 death every year, it sounds like something unusual is happening in Raleigh. (Using the figure of 12,500 signed up to run in Sunday’s races as average for the last 9 years. my calculator comes up with the 18.6 times the chances of dying in a race at Raleigh than everywhere else.)

Perhaps because of the runners Raleigh attracts, or because of something about the course -- or courses, the half marathon and full marathon must have used different courses. This certainly sounds like something that begs to be investigated.

12 posted on 04/14/2014 4:17:15 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Libloather

I cannot conceive of anything so unappealing as to put on a pair of shorts and go out to run in a crowd of hot, sweaty people.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 4:39:47 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

I actually enjoy running and have done my fair share of 1/2 marathons. As I have to train for these events, it has helped me control my weight and kept me in shape.


14 posted on 04/14/2014 4:48:59 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: LukeL

The first marathon runner, Philippides, dropped dead, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheidippides


15 posted on 04/14/2014 4:56:18 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Libloather

At 70 years old, my idea of a RnR marathon is no stop playing my 45’s from the 1950’s!


16 posted on 04/14/2014 5:24:55 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: arderkrag

I ran the Frankenmuth half-marathon and felt half-dead. That’s why I never ran a whole marathon.


17 posted on 04/14/2014 5:33:51 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: surroundedbyblue

“I should get a cardio work up but I’m pretty sure my health insurance wouldn’t feel that’s indicated.”

You can get a lot of health information through self-ordered testing. Get a CIMT (carotid intima media test) to determine if you have vascular risk, especially unstable plaque. Get a comprehensive blood test (such as through Life Extension) and be sure to include VAP or NMR lipids, inflammatory markers such as HsCRP and Lp-PLA2(PLAC2), fasting sugar plus HbA1c.

Don’t wait for insurance. Take some responsibility for your own health.


18 posted on 04/14/2014 5:43:53 AM PDT by Zuse
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To: Libloather

There is a group of people who’s bodies do not respond well to that kind of distance running. I was in that group. I ran marathons and half marathons for years. Little did I know that my heart walls were thickening from the daily strain being put it on my body. Finally, in 07 I went into Vtach and almost died. Had I been out on the road or at a marathon at the time, I most likely would not have survived.

After stopping all running, my heart went back to normal shape, but the damage was done. I just had my third cardiac ablation last month that they think finally cleared up all the Vtach, but now my defibrillator is infected. Yeah. I go in Wednesday for a full extraction, 4 days of antibiotics and then a brand new device.

I told my wife that after this is all over I will be ready to start running again. Her response was she will have the lawyer contact me with divorce papers and she will pack up my things for me.


19 posted on 04/14/2014 6:26:30 AM PDT by okkev68
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To: flaglady47
Here is a reference:

link

20 posted on 04/14/2014 6:31:21 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: okkev68
I found a study which I posted in #20. The risk of sudden cardiac death in marathoners is lower than the general population. However, your condition of the structural change in the heart is drawing more attention not only in runners but in other high intensity training: biking, swimming; intense cross training, etc.

However, the risk of being a couch potato carries much more health risk...

21 posted on 04/14/2014 6:38:45 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: okkev68
I found a study which I posted in #20. The risk of sudden cardiac death in marathoners is lower than the general population. However, your condition of the structural change in the heart is drawing more attention not only in runners but in other high intensity training: biking, swimming; intense cross training, etc.

However, the risk of being a couch potato carries much more health risk...

22 posted on 04/14/2014 6:38:46 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: duckman
At 50 years old, my idea of a rock and roll marathon is playing my 8-tracks and cassette tapes from the 1970s!

Allow me to kick it off with some Steely Dan.

23 posted on 04/14/2014 6:42:18 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Zuse

I have a doctors order for a VAP which I requested. My ldl was at the warning level under the old standard but fine under the new AHA standards. Still my doc is concerned. Reason I ordered a VAP is that I read statins do not lower LDL-B levels. So if I have a VAP, I have a baseline for LDL-A and LDL-B. If I decide on a statin, I can measure its true effectiveness.


24 posted on 04/14/2014 6:42:57 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: arderkrag

Even if it saves just one life!!!


25 posted on 04/14/2014 6:54:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 11th Commandment

Correct. It wasn’t exercise that was the problem, it was the long duration, high intensity, combined with a less than ideal diet, that caused the problem.


26 posted on 04/14/2014 7:00:42 AM PDT by okkev68
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To: hawkaw
I actually enjoy running and have done my fair share of 1/2 marathons. As I have to train for these events, it has helped me control my weight and kept me in shape.

Good for you! As for me, I stopped running the day I left the Army (30 years ago). I spend plenty of time on the treadmill, and I'll be walking 15 miles to celebrate my 60th birthday in a few weeks.

I rarely see people jogging with a smile on their faces. They don't look like they're enjoying themselves. ;)

27 posted on 04/14/2014 7:02:24 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: okkev68

“I told my wife that after this is all over I will be ready to start running again. Her response was she will have the lawyer contact me with divorce papers and she will pack up my things for me.”

Haha! Sounds like you have an addiction. I know the feeling....any sort of injury or illness that keeps me from running makes me go bat crap crazy


28 posted on 04/14/2014 7:02:39 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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To: SamAdams76

‘Allow me to kick it off with some Steely Dan.’

Only if you allow me to follow up with The 5 Satins.


29 posted on 04/14/2014 7:37:14 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: LukeL
The human body is not designed to run 26.2 miles in under 4 hours.

I might agree, except I realized that the human body is actually designed to travel 300 hours in just under 4 hours.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 8:33:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: LukeL

In this case it is a “half-marathon”, 13.1 miles, it does make me wonder if people might be trying to set personal records too much so.


31 posted on 04/14/2014 8:51:32 AM PDT by BeadCounter (Without the C, there is no need for the Coexist bumpersticker.)
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To: duckman
At 70 years old, my idea of a RnR marathon is no stop playing my 45s from the 1950s!

I concur. That is my idea of fun, too.

32 posted on 04/14/2014 8:53:00 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: LukeL
Only about 1% of all cardiac deaths occur in people under the age of 35.

That is why this story is a bit curious, the runners are 35 and 31.

33 posted on 04/14/2014 8:53:18 AM PDT by BeadCounter (Without the C, there is no need for the Coexist bumpersticker.)
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To: BeadCounter

There’ve been several incidents over the past few years of soccer players dropping dead on the pitch. In an average game, a player can wind up running 5-6 miles.


34 posted on 04/14/2014 8:55:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Yes, not only dropping dead but of course, just collapsing but still surviving.

Fabrice Muamba would be an example of the latter.

LONDON, England – Bolton Wanderers Fabrice Muamba woke up yesterday and managed to talk to his fiancée Shauna Muganda.

Muamba, 23, suffered a cardiac arrest in Saturday’s FA Cup match at Spurs. His heart reportedly stopped beating for seven minutes and doctors carried out numerous cardiac massages before it started pumping blood on its own again.

He of course, recovered but I'm sure has stopped playing the game.

They must have stepped up testing in England/UK over this. This now has not happened in a while. I know it happened to some of the "lower-level" clubs.

For the record, Muamba offered very religious Christian-type of gratitude for recovering.

35 posted on 04/14/2014 9:03:57 AM PDT by BeadCounter (Without the C, there is no need for the Coexist bumpersticker.)
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To: BeadCounter

There was a recent one with Rich Peverley of the Dallas Stars, they ended up stopping the game, and rescheduled it. Fortunately, he survived. But his playing days are probably over.


36 posted on 04/14/2014 9:06:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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