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Eric Holder and the Race Card: The issue the media can't resist
Fox News ^ | 4/14/2014 | Howard Kurtz

Posted on 04/14/2014 3:47:37 AM PDT by markomalley

When Eric Holder became attorney general in 2009, he declared that when it comes to discussing race, we have become “a nation of cowards.”

Now there’s plenty of discussion of race, some of it swirling around Holder himself.

In recent days, conservative critics have accused Holder of playing the race card to deflect criticism—while his liberal allies believe some of that criticism is racially motivated. It reflects a classic cultural divide in this country and in the media establishment.

Just days ago, I was questioning whether New York Magazine went too far in proclaiming that everything about the Obama presidency was somehow colored by race. The argument this time is over who’s responsible.

What set off the racial fireworks was a Hill confrontation between the nation’s first black attorney general and Rep. Louie Gohmert, who cited the House holding him in contempt two years ago over the Fast and Furious gun-running scandal.

“I realize that contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general but it is important that we have proper oversight,” Gohmert said.

“You don't want to go there, buddy,” Holder shot back.

Holder was steamed, and in a speech the next day to Al Sharpton’s National Action Network, it showed.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dncrico; dojrico; electionfraudrico; holderrico; racecard Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: markomalley

Anyone wonder why we have such a race problem in this country? Seems he and his good buddy odumbo have been promoting it since the day they came into office. Since their debut, race relations in this country have been set back ten fold. Disgraceful!


2 posted on 04/14/2014 3:54:43 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Progov

Leftish race hate is driving minority unemployment. The more they moan about race problems, the less employers want to deal with them.


3 posted on 04/14/2014 4:02:15 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Progov

I can’t stand to even LOOK at the guy ... he resembles a tanned G. Gordon Liddy and that infuriates me !


4 posted on 04/14/2014 4:03:49 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Progov

Democrats don’t want racial harmony. They want a perpetually aggrieved victim class captive on the Dem party plantation.


5 posted on 04/14/2014 4:12:47 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: All

When someone accuses you of being racist, simply say “I don’t care”......it will floor them.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 4:23:42 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: markomalley

7 posted on 04/14/2014 4:30:28 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: x_plus_one
Holder was right and he said we were cowards when it comes to talking about race in this country. The problem is, he wouldn't want to hear an honest conversation about it, and race remains a issue that we are only allowed to discuss in the context of a specific set of pre-defined ‘truths’ - decided to be so by leftist racial activists.

The top cause of death (2010 statistics) in young black males from ages 15-34 is homicide - actually causing >50% of deaths in the 15-19 age group. It's the number two cause of death in male black children ages 1-4 (~15%).

This is horrible, and should be the topic of a national debate, with the goal of finding solutions. This is not caused by disparities in access to health care. It is not caused by white on black race-based crime. It's not caused by a lack of gun laws, as it happens in cities in which guns laws are the strictest.

I don't know what the answers are, but for this administration to ignore this issue - or refuse to discuss the real contributing causes, is cowardice. It's the kind of cowardice that comes from not wanting to confront the real problems.

I don't personally know all the factors that contribute to this. Clearly gang activity is a big contributor, but this begs the question of why do enough young black males wind up in gangs such that these statistics are on the books? Hopelessness? Well, if so, why, and what are we doing about it? There are significantly larger percentages of young white males committing suicide in these age groups, so if it's just hopelessness, why are the homicide statistics different in these groups.

Is there a contribution of culture? I don't know, but I personally haven't seen a lot of people trying to ‘take down’ the violence-ridden entertainment industry that peddles gang-life glorification. Is it because gang-life gives young black males a sense of ‘family’? If so, why is there this need for a surrogate family - especially given the traditional strength (many decades ago) of the black family?

We could go on and on here, but the point is that we won't do this publicly - because the answers are not always going to fit the narrative that the race-baiters have made their careers pushing. They should be called out, loudly and incessantly, for allowing young black men, and the black community in general, to suffer because their so called leaders, like Holder, lack the courage to have honest discussions and embrace honest fact finding. It appears that their ideology and their personal and political narratives are more important to them than what actually happens in the communities they claim they are representing - and that they claim the rest of us are suppressing.

Shameful.

8 posted on 04/14/2014 4:41:56 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: knarf
I can’t stand to even LOOK at the guy ... he resembles a tanned G. Gordon Liddy and that infuriates me !

He looks exactly like a drunk I worked with in my first computer job in 1970. He's arrive at work sober at 16:30 and be passed-out drunk by 19:30 or 20:00.

The student staff (like me) would roll his chair away from the console

and continue operations until midnight.

I know it's irrational, but I took an instant dislike to holder because he looks like "that guy."
9 posted on 04/14/2014 4:56:47 AM PDT by Peet (The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal. - Aristotle)
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To: Peet

O.J. did it!


10 posted on 04/14/2014 5:09:14 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Maverick68

When someone accuses you of being racist, simply say, “You’re projecting again.”….it will infuriate them.


11 posted on 04/14/2014 5:25:29 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: markomalley

Eric “my people” Holder openly stated in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in June of 2009, that White Americans are NOT protected by federal hate crime laws when they are victims of racially motivated violence. And he has ignored the thousands of racially motivated black on white violent attacks since then that he would have considered to be hate crimes if the races were reversed.

But he is right about one thing, although in a way opposite of the way he meant. We are a nation of cowards, especially the Republican in Congress who are afraid to call him on his corrupt double standard in administering the law.

It would be a winning issue for any Republican who raised the issue and stayed on message despite the tidal wave of slander and vilification that would assault him from the racist left. Millions of white Americans are aware of this onslaught of black on white violence. Their kids see it in the schools, their neighbors see it on the streets, and in their homes. They would be galvanized by a politician of courage who forcibly spoke out against this racist double standard and didnt back down.

The facts are out there. All he would have to do is cite case after case of black on white racially motivated violence and couple that with Holders testimony before the Senate committee and his inaction in prosecuting black on white hate crimes.

It is a winning issue that Holder has handed to the Republicans on a silver platter. But they dont have the guts to speak out against this racist double standard.


12 posted on 04/14/2014 5:27:48 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: Progov

Eric Holder considers corruption and incompetence a race issue, pointedly directing his assertion at himself and Obama.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 6:11:09 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Progov

This was never a concern for Howard Kurtz when he was one of the MSM Stasi Stenographers himself before he joined FOX.

Still don’t trust the weasel.


14 posted on 04/14/2014 6:35:09 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: x_plus_one

AMEN


15 posted on 04/14/2014 7:40:58 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Progov

Howard Kurtz needs to buy a clue that Holder et al. are a bunch of Alinskyites who are playing racial issues like a cheap piano in order to get their way and destroy the Republic.


16 posted on 04/14/2014 3:10:44 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Uncle Lonny
Millions of white Americans are aware of this onslaught of black on white violence.

Even black schoolkids are wise to what is going on .... one of them was quoted in a TV newsclip about race riots in a high school a couple of months ago. The way she put it was, she had to sympathize somewhat with the white students because "these people are being 'niggerized', and they know it." </language>

Obama wants to establish a minoritarian, antimajoritarian racist regime of his own, and only the wilfully purblind say it ain't so, now.

17 posted on 04/14/2014 3:15:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The black homicide rate has ALWAYS been well above the white rate. In the 1950 FBI Uniform Crime Reports, pdf page 126, white homicide arrests were 3372, black 2889, when blacks were 10% of the population.

Note that this was BEFORE welfare broke up families, BEFORE drug gangs, BEFORE violent video games. The black crime rate has ALWAYS been high.

18 posted on 04/15/2014 3:54:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I understand, but I wanted to use recent statistics. I’m not saying that the things I listed are the only reasons. I’m just trying to say that whatever the reasons are, they should be discussed honestly, in trying to find solutions. Ignoring the issues generally in society isn’t the solution.


19 posted on 04/15/2014 4:40:49 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Why???

For an answer, a strong insight, get hold of and watch the TV series THE WIRE . The program has 5 season and 60 or so episodes depicting the disparate black cultures of Baltimore

Although fiction, the various reasons for the murders are depicted. There is pretty much a culture of death dwelling within what amounts to isolation. A tribal culture that must be genetic has developed and is thriving in spite of the high death rate. It can be viewed as Darwinian survival of the fittest .

One attribute of being fit is cunning. Cunning overcomes fit. Fit can be bought.

There is in some a desire to leave but the desire to stay within the bounds of the known overcomes the fear of the unknown.

The end result is there is no solution. Deetroit is the end result and it takes a very long time for the decay to finally rot away the ability to live.


20 posted on 04/15/2014 4:55:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: HotHunt

While it is forbidden to be a racist, it is ok to be a cultureist.

Criticism and praise of various subcultures is academically acceptable.

To observe and comment on the various subcultures is ok


21 posted on 04/15/2014 4:58:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
Thanks for the insight. I have, I think, a good understanding of what is going on, but I think we will get nowhere without an honest discussion, and that has to start with an open mind from all sides. Clearly not all sides are open-minded about this issue, and there is a tremendous amount of dogma emanating from people who have no substantive personal experience.

I grew up in a neighborhood in which there were gunshots outside of my house. If I walked the streets there now there is a very good chance I wouldn't live to tell about it. I understand the dynamic, and I've tried very hard to understand things from all relevant perspectives. I have encountered many inexperienced know-it-alls in my lifetime so far, who have it all figured out - based on what they've been fed by the MSM and on what they came away with from their academic experiences. Most of them grew up without any significant multi-racial exposure on a daily living basis, yet think they are the ‘enlightened’ ones.

I personally hate the idea of defining a person by race, and think that this hurts all of us. I also believe very strongly that racism is a disease that points in all directions, and that whites can be victims of racism just as much as any other racial group.

Personally, I think we can get past race if we are honest about what the problems are, on all sides. I'm counting on it. But, it won't happen as long as there are those who prosper by keeping us divided.

22 posted on 04/15/2014 11:59:56 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

——without any significant multi-racial exposure on a daily living basis, ——

I am one of those. I am retired but my retirement job takes place on loading docks. I meet and talk with black container drivers. They are all beyond thirty and have outgrown the problems so prevalent in those younger. Some work for the company but quite a few bought a tractor and hire themselves and their truck to haul containers to and from the ports. They have become small, but independent business men

I have also had on several occasions been there where the people shipping and loading are from Liberia. They are here as refugees from the civil war that is now over. There is a sizeable colony here numbering say 3 or 400. To muy best knowledge, they mostly have jobs. Some are young, highschool. They have learned to buy flea market clothing and stuff, used and old very cheap Toyota and Nissan pickups and ship it “home” to relatives to sell. Sending stuff is better than sending money. They are Christian and have a radio tuned to conservative talk

The black truck drivers see but have difficulty grasping the situation. The jibber jabber is incomprehensible. They see, but what they see and hear doesn’t make sense. Some how the Liberians have developed a large or fairly large scale of business from pretty much scratch and can negotiate the intricacies of international export trade. The young men here of a similar age seem to lack the motivation. The drivers are amazed.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 12:17:23 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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