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Pro-Russia Separatists in Ukraine Appeal to Putin for Help
VOA ^ | 14 Apr 14 | Unknown

Posted on 04/14/2014 9:07:58 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

Pro-Russia separatists who said they were part of a new “Donetsk People's Republic” in eastern Ukraine appealed on Monday for Russian President Vladimir Putin to help defend them against Ukrainian government forces.

Speaking at a news conference at the headquarters of the city administration of Slovyansk, a separatist leader asked Putin “to personally direct your attention to the unfolding situation and help us as much as you can.”

The plea for help came hours after a Kyiv-set deadline expired under which separatists occupying government building in eastern Ukraine were to disarm or face an assault by Ukrainian security forces.

Meanwhile, President Putin is watching the situation in Ukraine with great concern, his spokesman said on Monday.

Asked about a call by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine for Putin to help defend them against government forces, Dmitry Peskov said that there were “a great many such appeals coming.”

The U.S. and other Western powers are accusing Russia of fomenting the unrest as a possible pretext for intervention.

Referendum not ruled out

Also on Monday, Ukraine's acting president, Oleksandr Turchynov, says he is not against a nationwide referendum on what kind of country Ukraine should be.

Turchynov said he is certain a majority would support a united and independent Ukraine, possibly giving broader local rights to the east. He said such a vote could be held at the same time as the May 25 presidential election.

In Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday he believes Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the eastern part of the country should be part of drafting a new constitution.

Pro-Russia demonstrators who have seized Ukrainian government buildings in several cities, including yet another in Horlivka on Monday, are demanding a referendum on whether to split with Ukraine and join Russia - similar to last month's vote in Crimea.

Turchynov threatened to launch a "large-scale anti-terrorist operation" against those who have taken over the buildings.

However, a Monday morning deadline passed without any sign of movement by Ukrainian security forces.

Russia blasted at UN

Russia came under heavy criticism from world powers at an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council late Sunday, as armed pro-Russia separatists seized more government buildings in eastern Ukraine.

U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power and British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant accused Russia of orchestrating the take-overs.

Power said the instability in Ukraine was "completely man-made." She said it was "written and choreographed" by Russia. Grant called on the Security Council to warn Russia against "further military escalation."

Russia, which had called the meeting, rejected the charges.

Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin called on the international community to demand that those who are in power in Kyiv stop war on their own citizens.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: military; putin; russia; ukraine
And who didn't see the "calls for help" coming as soon as Putin started this takeover?
1 posted on 04/14/2014 9:07:58 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

I wonder if he’ll help?......................................................................................


2 posted on 04/14/2014 9:09:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: elhombrelibre

Precisely


3 posted on 04/14/2014 9:09:54 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Red Badger

Of course he’ll help. He’s a nice guy, that way . . . .


4 posted on 04/14/2014 9:11:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ve been led to believe that he will do his Christian duty and smash the uppity Ukrainians.


5 posted on 04/14/2014 9:12:34 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Red Badger

He’s already “helping”: SBU just published radio conversations of supposed “rebels” with their commanders in Russia. They are Russian special ops units and not even hiding it.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 9:13:40 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: elhombrelibre

FRiend, lots good info here:

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-56-will-kiev-lose-control-of-the-east/


7 posted on 04/14/2014 9:14:00 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: elhombrelibre

Mother of God, chase PUTIN away!

8 posted on 04/14/2014 9:14:21 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: elhombrelibre

So if they are pro-Russian instead of pro-Ukranian, why does Putin not just grant them asylum in Russia?


9 posted on 04/14/2014 9:15:39 AM PDT by formosa
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To: formosa

Good point. Good point. But then he cannot control Ukraine, and snatch the oil shale underneath eastern Ukraine.


10 posted on 04/14/2014 9:17:37 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: formosa

According to polls they’re not pro-Russian as much as they are anti-fascist.


11 posted on 04/14/2014 9:18:56 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: elhombrelibre
The plea for help came hours after a Kyiv-set deadline expired under which separatists occupying government building in eastern Ukraine were to disarm or face an assault by Ukrainian security forces.

Why didn't the Ukrainian security forces assault the insurrectionists in Kiev? Oh, that's right they were ordered not to by a rump parliament of only 227 of the full 450 members, the pro-government members driven off by the firebomb throwing mob.

12 posted on 04/14/2014 9:19:23 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Samogon

IT’S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME.........................


13 posted on 04/14/2014 9:19:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: formosa

It was rhetorical question, right? Can cancer grant asylum to metastases inside the main tumor?


14 posted on 04/14/2014 9:19:57 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: mac_truck

Yeah, that’s the ticket. Ukraine was raped by the Czar, raped by the communist, raped by the NAZIS, and raped again by the Soviets, and now it’s rational to think the Ukraine is a bastion of Nazis out to harm their Russian-speaking minority.


15 posted on 04/14/2014 9:21:38 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Vladi Putin: defending the free world from “fascism” since the 1960’s. Next on the list, the fascist globalist regional superpower of Estonia.


16 posted on 04/14/2014 9:23:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Samogon

This whole thing had a timeline from the very beginning. They hoped the Ukrainians would take the bait and provide some brutality. It didn’t happen. Now, they have to rollover them and pretend their is chaos. The only people buying it are lowbrow Putinistas.


17 posted on 04/14/2014 9:24:14 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Hey, Putin knows about Fascism. His father and he both fought that evil in the Communist Secret Police. Putin worked with the Stasi to stop it in Dresden. The man can smell it like a bloodhound.


18 posted on 04/14/2014 9:25:33 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: mac_truck

What’s this anti-facist crap?
Putin still sees the Hitler in Ukraine?
Comon’s FReepers!
Ukrainian and Russians want FREEDOM from communist thugs. They had enough of it during “Soviet Paradise” and they do not want it any more.
Putin is repeating Hitler’s steps. Wait until “Russians” in Brighton Beach ask for his help after few masked KGB “separatists” take over town hall and Putin with Obama’s help will “liberate” USSA.
Get ready for gulags, bread lines and worshipping red star.

All you RED FReepers are free to go back to mother Russia and enjoy the paradise there, leave us and freedom loving people alone!


19 posted on 04/14/2014 9:29:21 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Samogon

They are Russian special ops units and not even hiding it.


Yes, they are not hiding it. Obvious military ops yesterday. That makes me think the Germans have green lighted the Russian takeover of much of Ukraine.


20 posted on 04/14/2014 9:30:14 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“Why didn’t the Ukrainian security forces assault the insurrectionists in Kiev? Oh, that’s right they were ordered not to by a rump parliament of only 227 of the full 450 members, the pro-government members driven off by the firebomb throwing mob.”

No, you are making false propaganda. Some of the Deputies have abandoned their offices because they are hiding away from prosecution for their roles in the multitude of crimes they have committed.


21 posted on 04/14/2014 9:32:47 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
Some of the Deputies have abandoned their offices because they are hiding away from prosecution for their roles in the multitude of crimes they have committed.

So half the Deputies, not "some", where not in fear of the firebomb throwing mobs surrounding the parliament building and running loose in the city? The same mobs were burning cops alive. Do you think the would hesitate to kill a few hated Deputies.

22 posted on 04/14/2014 9:36:28 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Modern day fascists call themselves Anti-fascists. Orwellian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa


23 posted on 04/14/2014 9:38:01 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: elhombrelibre

Was reading an editorial on a Russian website this weekend that Putin should invoke “THE OBAMA DOCTRINE” over Eastern Ukraine.

Declare a “No Fly Zone”.
Then he could send in aircraft and bomb anything he wants to, with impunity, while airdropping in Special Forces and Contractors as “Advisors and Trainers”.

Because he mentions Obama as the justification for it, the Western Media will refuse to report on it.

Obamassss Chichenzzzzz coming home to roost. This is the cost of a weak, mocked Presdient in the US White House, that has no clue what he is doing.


24 posted on 04/14/2014 9:38:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Nice to see a fellow FReeper standing-up for constitutional law, the cops, and order.


25 posted on 04/14/2014 9:40:51 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Did you read the editorial, or write it?


26 posted on 04/14/2014 9:41:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“So half the Deputies, not “some”, where not in fear of the firebomb throwing mobs surrounding the parliament building and running loose in the city? The same mobs were burning cops alive. Do you think the would hesitate to kill a few hated Deputies.”

While the Yanukovych administration used Russian agents in its Berkut police force as snipers to murder unarmed protestors, the protestors seized and arrested these Yanukovych security men and handed them over to higher authorities for detention, investigation, and potential prosecutions for mass urder. So, contrary to your efforts at false propaganda demeaning the Ukrainian protestors, the Yanukovych suspects were in far less danger from the protestors than the protestors were in danger of abductions, assassinations, and outright murder by some of the Yanukovych security forces. It should also be noted how many of the Ukrainian and local police and security forces concluded the Yanukovych goverment was committing crimes in its deadly attacks upon the protestors that provoked the protestors to pursue more violent responses in their defense of the presence and their free speech. In response to those crimes, the police and securit forces joined in the defense of the protestors and the parliament. The Deputies who abandoned their offices despite not being suspects in the criminal investigations did so for theor own political purposes, as evidenced by the return to the parliament of one Deputy who was a former KGB officer and is accused of being a current agent of the foreign Russian FSB secret police. Despite this alleged treason against the Ukraine, the othe rmembers of parliament called for his expulsion and investigation of his alleged crimes, but did not threaten him physically. So, your alarmist rhetoric appears to be nothing more than propaganda amounting to a false incitement to riot and insurrection against the remaining Deputies elected by the Ukrainian citizens.


27 posted on 04/14/2014 9:56:33 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Oh, that's right they were ordered not to by a rump parliament of only 227 of the full 450 members, the pro-government members driven off by the firebomb throwing mob.

227??

328 were in parliament to vote for impeachment.

Yanukovich himself signed off on the agreement to hold new elections in May.

28 posted on 04/14/2014 9:57:26 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

227? 328? At this point, what difference does it make (to the Russians)?


29 posted on 04/14/2014 10:00:55 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Samogon

Yes. It was rhetorical.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 10:03:39 AM PDT by formosa
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To: elhombrelibre
And who didn't see the "calls for help" coming as soon as Putin started this takeover?

Everyone who has their head up their ass didn't see it.

31 posted on 04/14/2014 10:11:44 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: FreeReign
Yanukovich himself signed off on the agreement to hold new elections in May.

Source?

32 posted on 04/14/2014 10:23:59 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: All

It is so obvious this is what obama meant by being flexible. He knew Putin was going to do this. And if Putin helps him destroy the “colonialist” countries, obama is very happy.


33 posted on 04/14/2014 10:40:06 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: tcrlaf

I’m sure that worked for you. They do know their target audience.


34 posted on 04/14/2014 11:37:33 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

So now we know how much the world cares about Russia’s plans to take over East Ukraine — virtually not at all, about the same amount as the world cares whether China takes over the Senkaku Islands.

After a weekend of hysterical media coverage of Ukrainian unrest and threats of Russia cutting off gas supplies to Ukraine and Europe, the world’s financial markets have responded — not with panic selling, not with soaring gold prices, but with a rare buying spree after weeks of triple-digit losses. At this rate, we could be seeing Dow 20,000 in a matter of months.

It’s clear that no one will restrain the Russian Bear from eating his way across EurAsia, it’s almost as if the world is cheering him on.


35 posted on 04/14/2014 11:52:55 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: elhombrelibre

Waving a false flag. These thugs taking over Ukrainian government buildings are not the friends and neighbors of the locals. They are Russian special forces. They are probably the same people that killed the protesters in Kiev.


36 posted on 04/14/2014 11:57:49 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: elhombrelibre

It will be up to Ukraine citizens to drive out those invaders.


37 posted on 04/14/2014 12:03:39 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

I agree with both of your comments.


38 posted on 04/14/2014 12:07:14 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: WhiskeyX
While the Yanukovych administration used Russian agents in its Berkut police force as snipers to murder unarmed protestors, the protestors seized and arrested these Yanukovych security men and handed them over to higher authorities for detention, investigation, and potential prosecutions for mass urder.

So Yanukovych was in on the false flag?

39 posted on 04/14/2014 12:12:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: FreeReign
328 were in parliament to vote for impeachment.

Two days before the impeachment vote the rump parliament of 227, made up almost entirely of opposition members, voted to ban the police and military from taking any action against the firebomb throwing insurrectionist mob. The overthrow of the government was a fait accomplis after that. Anyone who supported that government had no protection from the mob or the new junta so to save their own necks they had drop their support or flee. Hence the easy vote for impeachment. Sounds nice and democratic, huh?

40 posted on 04/14/2014 12:45:09 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: mac_truck

“anti-fascist” heh, if you are not being paid to post this, contact the Russian embassy immediately, they owe you money.


41 posted on 04/14/2014 12:51:29 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Mike Darancette

“Waving a false flag. These thugs taking over Ukrainian government buildings are not the friends and neighbors of the locals. They are Russian special forces. They are probably the same people that killed the protesters in Kiev.”

There is no probably about it. Its the same people.


42 posted on 04/14/2014 12:53:40 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Mike Darancette
These thugs taking over Ukrainian government buildings are not the friends and neighbors of the locals.
They are Russian special forces.

LOL

43 posted on 04/14/2014 12:59:56 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

No I mean these people from the neighborhood. Are you stupid or what?

44 posted on 04/14/2014 2:25:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: elhombrelibre

Got to admire Putin a bit. Without agreeing or disagreeing with his politics, at least he’s not hiding who he is and that he’s never surrendered in the Cold War.


45 posted on 04/14/2014 4:07:47 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: mac_truck
Link
46 posted on 04/14/2014 6:05:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
That is the February 21st agreement which I agree should have been enforced by all sides, but there is nothing in there to support the notion that Yanukovitch agreed to a May election date.

Here is the relevant section dealing with elections.

Presidential elections will be held as soon as the new Constitution is adopted but no later than December 2014.

47 posted on 04/14/2014 7:17:07 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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