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White House confirms Russian media reports that CIA director was in Kiev over the weekend
NEWSER ^ | 4-14-2014 | AP

Posted on 04/14/2014 12:50:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The White House is confirming that CIA Director John Brennan was in the Ukrainian capital over the weekend. White House press secretary Jay Carney confirmed Russian media reports of the trip to Kiev. Carney says Brennan's visit was part of a trip to Europe.

Ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych is accusing the CIA of being behind the new government's decision to turn to force. But the CIA denies that Brennan encouraged Ukrainian authorities to conduct tactical operations.

(Excerpt) Read more at newser.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cia; civilwar; propaganda; russia; ukraine
It was a SECRET trip, until it was outed by the Russians on Saturday.

Are the Obamunists so naive as to think that the Russians wouldn't know the CIA director was in-country? This isn't Libya or Egypt they are dealing with.

1 posted on 04/14/2014 12:50:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Excellent example of your spin: should the US have informed Russia of the trip in advance? Why should it, unless, Russia thinks Ukraine is its territory?


2 posted on 04/14/2014 12:53:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Noting the OBVIOUS is “spin” now?? Go back to KOS, will ya? Ya’ bug me, boy...


3 posted on 04/14/2014 12:54:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf
He was paying the $20 billion dollar gas bill with American money in exchange for one of two things.............

1) A complete surrender to Russia.

2) The introduction of an Islam seat at the governing table of Ukraine.

Refuse those two options and no $20 billion.

4 posted on 04/14/2014 12:55:27 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: tcrlaf
Oh, it was a "secret" trip, was it?

Is that why the Director of the CIA has a secret identity?

Oh wait, he's a public official - whose name and face are known to anyone who wants to check.

This site used to have posters who took a critical view of news reports, especially reports from agenices owned directly by hostile foreign governments.

5 posted on 04/14/2014 12:55:30 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: 1rudeboy

Exactly, I am sure the Putinistas here are outraged about this CIA encroachment on soon to be Russian territory.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 12:55:33 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: tcrlaf

It’s not “secret” unless the Russians say it is, comrade. This guy probably flew a U.S. government jet.


7 posted on 04/14/2014 12:55:55 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

The White House on Monday said President Barack Obama would speak to Russian President Vladimir Putin soon, perhaps later in the day, and made clear the United States was not considering lethal aid for Ukraine.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.585598


8 posted on 04/14/2014 12:56:51 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: tcrlaf; 1rudeboy

So supporting America and its allies means you’re from “KOS”, but carrying water as a pathetic lickspittle for a tinpot KGB dictator is . . . what? Patriotic?


9 posted on 04/14/2014 12:57:10 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: BurningOak

Believe nothing. Nothing is true. Except for Russian “reports” that the trip was “secret.”


10 posted on 04/14/2014 12:57:10 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: wideawake

“This site used to have posters who took a critical view of news reports, especially reports from agenices owned directly by hostile foreign governments.”

NEWSER and Associated Press are owned by foreign governments?
WHO KNEW!!!!!!


11 posted on 04/14/2014 12:57:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: wideawake

Hey now, some of us remember the Great Patriotic War.


12 posted on 04/14/2014 12:57:52 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf
NEWSER and Associated Press are owned by foreign governments?

I had assumed you weren't that stupid.

My mistake.

Which sources were Newser and AP quoting, exactly?

Would it be RT?

13 posted on 04/14/2014 12:58:42 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: McGruff
the United States was not considering lethal aid for Ukraine

Unless those MREs they're sending contain burritos.

14 posted on 04/14/2014 12:59:28 PM PDT by AU72
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To: 1rudeboy

Da, tovarisch.


15 posted on 04/14/2014 12:59:32 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Note how it works with these guys. Somebody confirms the trip, therefore the Russian account that it was “secret” is true.


16 posted on 04/14/2014 1:00:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: wideawake

“Which sources were Newser and AP quoting, exactly?”

Jay Carney and the White House.

It might help if you READ, instead of kneejerk react, doncha think?


17 posted on 04/14/2014 1:01:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

Are you personally offended that the US didn’t clear the trip with Russia first?


18 posted on 04/14/2014 1:03:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf
Jay Carney and the White House.

Oh, so Jay Carney and the White House said that it was a secret trip?

Is that where that "fact" came from?

Try again, Komsomol wannabe.

19 posted on 04/14/2014 1:03:41 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: null and void; WildHighlander57; maggief; LucyT

FYI


20 posted on 04/14/2014 1:03:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: 1rudeboy

All of your ID’s show up at exactly the same time, every time, with nothing to add to a discussion but insults and obsfuscation of anything that doesn’t meet the approved Svoboda/Right Sector line.

Stop trolling and try thinking for a change, kid.


21 posted on 04/14/2014 1:07:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

So anyone who doesn’t take sides with the pedophile paradise of Russia is a nazi? Lol


22 posted on 04/14/2014 1:09:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

The Nazi’s were the one’s throwing firebombs at the police at Maidan, remember??

Or were those pics on the Euromaidan PR at the time all Russian propaganda, as well?


23 posted on 04/14/2014 1:10:28 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: wideawake

I wonder if the CIA Chief will bring back The spokes hole some nice trinkets and such back


24 posted on 04/14/2014 1:12:18 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: tcrlaf

They make up less than. 8% of voters too, remember that? Trying to brand them all is ludicrous


25 posted on 04/14/2014 1:14:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: tcrlaf

“Facts” are “insults” to Russians, that much is true. But in the interest of full disclosure, I am working a temporary assignment on the behalf of George Soros, for the neo-Nazi wing of Monsanto.


26 posted on 04/14/2014 1:14:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Good for you, every troll needs a job.


27 posted on 04/14/2014 1:19:00 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

As long as I’m not paid in rubles, I’m cool with it.


28 posted on 04/14/2014 1:19:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

He dedicating a mosque? (remember he’s a moslem) or just coordinating with right sector/svboda that seized the defense and internal security posts?


29 posted on 04/14/2014 1:20:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: tcrlaf

Ukrainians are not invading their neighbors. The only people doing that are Putin’s no insignia fag army. You are doing good work here, comrade.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 1:23:31 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: 1rudeboy

“Hey now, some of us remember the Great Patriotic War.”

Oh yeah, that was way back when the German leaders decided that controlling Ukraine would be the best way to ensure Germanys future. Say,, you know,,,,,,, oh nevermind.


31 posted on 04/14/2014 1:26:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: tcrlaf; 1rudeboy
Interesting thread but I got distracted when I went to the link and found:

Dumpster Sex on St. Paddy's Day.

32 posted on 04/14/2014 1:36:05 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: tcrlaf

The fact that the Russians seem to know where our DCI is before people at the CIA do is SOOOOO typical Obama.


33 posted on 04/14/2014 1:48:43 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: tcrlaf

Can’t find a modern day Ben Franklin???


34 posted on 04/14/2014 2:08:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: tcrlaf

It’s hard not to wonder why the director of the CIA couldn’t have phoned the Ukraine president with whatever he had to say to him, instead of taking a secret trip to Kiev, which he should have known the KGB would soon uncover and publicize.

What a coup for Russian intelligence: Outing the U.S.’s director of intelligence in the middle of a clandestine journey.

We look so bad. But whatever the CIA director was doing in Kiev it must have been important. For example, finalizing an agreement for Ukraine to allow referendums in its Russian-speaking areas in exchange for billions of U.S. dollars and the assurance that Russia will not invade Ukraine, at least as long as the referendums are in favor of the areas joining with Russia.


35 posted on 04/14/2014 2:09:36 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: Bluestocking

“But whatever the CIA director was doing in Kiev it must have been important. For example, finalizing an agreement for Ukraine....”

Russian Media was reporting that he had encouraged the Kiev coup government to attack Russian protesters in the East, as a show that the gov could control it.

But yours is the more plausible scenario.


36 posted on 04/14/2014 2:12:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf
This whole thing would have been settled if they had sent Valerie Plame instead. /sarc
37 posted on 04/14/2014 2:13:54 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tcrlaf
The Nazi’s were the one’s throwing firebombs at the police at Maidan

Calling these people 'Nazis' would tend to support the argument that you're parroting Russian propaganda.

Are they actual members of the National Socialist German Worker's Party? No.

Therefore the people at the Maidan, whoever they were, are not Nazis.

38 posted on 04/14/2014 2:17:05 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: MeganC

“Calling these people ‘Nazis’ would tend to support the argument that you’re parroting Russian propaganda.”

So, the Nazi symbol as their calling card, and all of the other stuff, is just coinky-dink, right?


39 posted on 04/14/2014 2:21:24 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

Yes, they are.


40 posted on 04/14/2014 2:46:51 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: tcrlaf

Some top Ukrainian Special Ops guys got wiped out yesterday. Russia has deep level spies in that country, probably people near the head of government even now.


41 posted on 04/14/2014 2:49:23 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: tcrlaf

Not. Good. Obammy caught with his hand in the Ukraine. Putin will act the victim and make US look worse.


42 posted on 04/14/2014 2:54:17 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: blackdog

I go for #2. He has been a converted Muslim for years and started his USA backstabbing under Bush1 as I recall who want close relationship with Muslims especially Saudi Arabia.


43 posted on 04/14/2014 2:55:33 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: DesertRhino
Oh yeah, that was way back when the German leaders decided that controlling Ukraine would be the best way to ensure Germanys future. Say,, you know, oh nevermind.

Damn sure you'd better "nevermind." Or learn about Molotov-Ribbentrop. Your choice.

44 posted on 04/14/2014 3:30:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: TexasCajun

Don’t show it to our Russian friends, they are humorless, and beset by Nazis.


45 posted on 04/14/2014 3:32:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: wideawake

What allies do we have in Ukraine? Some crooks who want money from us?

I got news for you, America has very few real allies in this world.


46 posted on 04/14/2014 3:47:55 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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