Skip to comments.George Soros about Europe, Russia and Ukraine (Euromaidan PR interview of Soros
Posted on 04/14/2014 12:55:16 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
In an interesting interview [link at URL] to the New York Review of Books, George Soros shared his ideas on many topics including Europe, Russia and the Ukranian crisis. He also presented his new book [link at URL] The tragedy of the European Union: Disintegration or Revival? Whether one agrees or disagrees with Soro's interpretations and arguments, it is hard to deny that the interview is extremely insightful and gives a lot of food for thought. I offer a discussion of the part of the interview devoted to Ukraine.
George Soros emphasized the necessity of a large-scale technical and financial assistance program for Ukraine.
... "Ukraine is a potentially attractive investment destinantion. ... The new regime in Ukraine is eager to confront that task," Soros said.
... Earlier George Soros called for an EU Marshall Plan for Ukraine. He mentioned that "Europe, true to form, demanded a lot and offered little... It's very important to respond, and to respond in the right way... Something like a European Marshall plan for Ukraine."
Some experts allege that geopolitics is not Soros' area of [sic] expertise as a finance trader. This hardly holds as international finance requires profound knmowledge and understanding of international politics and geopolitics. That is why successful international financiers are usually well versed in many areas related to international finance.
The opinion of George Soros about a Marshall Plan for Ukraine is very appropriate and timely from the geopolitical and international finance points of view.
On April 6, 2014, George Soros somewhat unexpectedly visited Ukraine and held a number of meetings.
(Excerpt) Read more at euromaidanpr.com ...
I don’t know what to make of him. I know he supported Solidarity in Poland. I know he screwed the Brits out of lots of money. I know lots of FReepers hate him, like he’s Goldstein in Orwell’s 1984. I don’t get it.
And you probably never will.
Euromaidan was a wave of protest that toppled the old government in Ukraine, and that led to the current regime. A regime that Obama supports, but won’t help - at least not direct and out in the open.
If I am not mistaken, I believe that it is now general knowledge that the protets were feuled by Svoboda, Pravy Sektor, others like them, and anti-Russian elements.
I wonder what Gleen Beck would have to say...
What say you?
Read this and you, like any non evil sociopath will come to the same conclusion about that piece of human trash...
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. Thats right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, thatsthat sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Mr. SOROS: Notnot at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you dontyou dont see the connection. But it wasit created nono problem at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: For example that, Im Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there. None of that?
Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I cI could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldnt be there, because that waswell, actually, in a funny way, its just like in marketsthat if I werent thereof course, I wasnt doing it, but somebody else wouldwouldwould be taking it away anyhow. And it was thewhether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So theI had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
Ooops Glenn Beck.
I know lots of FReepers hate him....I dont get it.
He profits from other’s misery and loss. He buys elections with his millions by working his way into the hierarchy of political systems/positions (ala SOS project). Not to mention his collaborating with the Nazi’s thing.
What’s not to get?
He’s also lying. He pretended to be Christian as he outed other Jews for the Nazis.
Srsly? Isn’t name calling a tactic of the left?
He funds radical Leftist causes in America.
True. Some on this thread just don’t get it, or offer cover. Not sure why.
They don't realize how small his fund is or how limited his resources actually are.
He likes to meddle, he's got a very Euro, very multiculti outlook, and he really thinks he has the answers to everything.
The same goes for many, many CEOs and financiers who are far wealthier and more influential than he is.
Warren Buffett and Bill Gates being two prominent examples.
That is what you have to resort to? Ad Homnem?
Why not direct some Ad Homs at those idiots at EuroMaidan for having an interview with...with... Soros of all people.
And why not direct some Ad Homs at Soros, huh?
Do you like McCain, Obama, Soros or Putin?
I don’t care for any of them.
We need to stay out of this, and you should know this!!!
Yep. Leftists use Ad Homs all the time.
There’s a difference between knowing that he’s a really contemptible human being and believing that he has magical powers.
This isn’t about what Freepers think, this is about what Freepers and Conservatives KNOW.
Likes to just “meddle”?
Not that powerful?
McCain might probably agree with you, as might Obama and others...
I’m against Obama and Putin. I need to learn more about Soros to hate him the way others do here.
“Ukraine is a potentially attractive investment destinantion. ... The new regime in Ukraine is eager to confront that task,”
He should know..
His sons have had the Open Society NGO’s at work destabilizing a Ukraine already dealing with civil unrest for a while now, funded by the U.S taxpayer.
Specific person X says Y is the case.
But X is a jerk.
Therefore Y is not the case.
Surely, Lfc, you realize the irony of complaining about ad hominem arguments on a thread that is dedicated to singling out a specific person - George Soros - for abuse.
This thread is a masterclass in ad hominem reasoning from its very start.
“They don’t realize how small his fund is or how limited his resources actually are.”
It’s not HIS funds, but how they are used to buy politicians, who are NOTORIUOSLY cheap to buy, and fund troublemakers at key points.
That doesn’t take vast amounts of money, especially when the pols you bought are more than willing to use TAXPAYER money, to do it for you.
A lesson he likely learned observing the NAZI’s, and how easily many of them were bought off.
The thesis I am arguing against is the ongoing implication that Soros is somehow the architect of Euromaidan - that he has the power to topple dictatorial regimes just by visiting countries.
In reality, he does not have such far-reaching powers.
Against both? Sure... This isn’t about a person, either, as you use a Red herring to make this about hating a man. This is about agendas, money, abilities to influence currency, Euromaidan PR inteviewing him... Euromaidan PR interviewing him? Says alot about Euromaidan PR...
You’ll have to explain irony to him too.
So in other words, he believes that the Ukraine should be unstable and prone to political chaos, but not too unstable and chaotic, so that international financiers can come in and exploit the situation without too much fear of it going totally nuclear.
Better still, in Soros’ mind, if an unstable and ineffectual Ukraine is beholden to economic and military assistance from the E.U., so that international financiers can monopolize both domestic resources as well as international aid, all while threatening to turn off the firehose of international aid should the Ukrainians get too uppity.
Yeah, I can see why he’s salivating, the evil son of a *****.
he has gone so far as to change his name from Gyorgy Schwartz to Georgie Soros to distance himself from his .... origins.
another self loathing Jew. a very vile skillful and dangerous one
Slow down. You’re hyperventilating. Catch your breath. Think about what you’re trying to write. Try to make sense.
Changing your name is a mortal sin.
Please, give us a break.
I’m shocked at the Soros support, by a couple of posters. His track record is well recorded on this forum, yet we have cheerleaders on here defending him.
He’s an evil man.
This is another Libya and Syria, IMHO... I think we need to stay out of it. Putin is a thug, but I still believe that we need to stay out of it... For instance, Libya and Syria:
Remember when we offensively intervened in Lybia? With “defensive charter” NATO? Was Lybia a member of NATO? Why do we intervene in Lybia, Syria, and Serbia, but not where there is no oil or Muslims (Serbia/Kosovo)? Why do we not intervene in Rwanda or Sudan or other situations where there are Christians being hacked to death by the tens of thousands (Sudan) and where there is no oil (Rwanda)?
How did Benghazi work out in Lybia?
Didn’t McCain get some photo ops with some rebels in Syria?
When Obama apparently was thinking about intervening in Syria -— wasn’t it about 2 years too late? Whom would intervention in Syria then have helped before Americans resoundingly said NO to the idea of intervening in Syria?
Thats why Im sticking to Meshuge Mikey as unseemly as that may be.....
That’s the problem. The Ukrainian people are so greedy that they don’t want to be robbed by a Putin-supported cleptocracy, and that evil Soros bamboozled them into not wanting Putin’s president to steal from them. Otherwise, if not for Soros, they’d gladly let themselves be robbed. Putin himself is worth $75 billion that he stole from the Russians. He must be worried that Soros will tell the Russians about it. Then, my good Lord, some of the FReepers are truly going to hate Soros for ruining Putin’s reputation.
Save your strawmen.
You saw what happened as much as I did.
Now they have to face the consequences of it, just like we are doing with Obama. Wishing and trolling don’t change the facts on the ground, no matter how hard you try.
Nothing happens in a vacuum, every cause has an effect.
Good for you. It’s like having the courage of a boy named Sue.
ahahahah and Im Wearing All Black until ALL Men Are Free!!
Hes an evil man.
Yes, very. Why ANYONE would support or defend him, especially on THIS forum, is mind-bogling.
How is it that these trolls you always mention have been on FReeRepublic longer than you?
Go Johnny Cash.
I don’t know. It’s a mystery to me.
Thank ye very Much!
George Soros the man Id most like to see In A RING OF FIRE
Sounds to me like Pootie-Poot might just take care of our little Soros problem for us.
Politician bleeds country dry.
People get angry and protest.
Politician has protesters murdered by his lackeys.
People impeach politician.
Politician stuffs as much of the country's cash in his pockets as he can and runs away.
Even more powerful and more corrupt politician from a foreign country takes revenge for the toppling of his puppet by stealing even more from Ukraine than the original corrupt politician did.
I saw all this, and it disgusts me.
You saw all this, and think it's wonderful.
“How is it that these trolls you always mention have been on FReeRepublic longer than you?”
Wow! I’ve only been on here for like a decade, and purked for several years before that.
Does that entitle you to some kind of a twinky prize, or sumpin’? (or is it just a sign of your arrogance, and lack of ability to critically think?)
A no. But I wonder why troll is one of your invectives, newbie. And I hope you didn’t purk on your carpet.
Ukraine has been a corrupt hole, and a home for the most violent mafias in Europe since it’s creation, after the fall of the Soviets. Endemic government corruption on a scale that would make even a Russian Oligarch blush has been the norm since inception.
It didn’t culminate in a coup until the Obamunist U.S. government, looking for a way to “get back” at being embarrassed by Putin after Syria, got involved and started throwing BIG money around. The Ukrainians are just the latest victims in someone’s global shell game. Like the Tunisian’s, the Egyptian’s, and Libyan’s, too.
I’m a big picture kinda guy. I was trained that way, and it has served me well.
You obviously aren’t.