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GOP Mutiny Could Unseat Boehner and McConnell as Party Leaders
finance.yahoo.com ^ | 4/14/14 | Eric Pianin

Posted on 04/14/2014 2:23:35 PM PDT by cotton1706

It increasingly looks as if the Republicans will regain control of Congress this fall, with the GOP narrowly winning back a majority in the Senate and the House GOP either retaining or slightly building on its majority. But will the two top Republican leaders – House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell -- be around to enjoy the spoils of victory?

Both Boehner of Ohio and McConnell of Kentucky are crafty and highly resilient veterans who would be difficult for their opponents to bring down even under the best of circumstances. Yet McConnell is facing arguably one of his toughest reelection campaigns this fall while Boehner appears headed for another tough internal challenge from far-right House conservatives for the speakership shortly after the mid-term election.

While some political experts say it is far too soon to speculate on what the future holds for McConnell and Boehner, there are clearly some troubling signs on the horizon for the two leaders:

Mitch McConnell: While McConnell is expected to easily fend off a primary challenge from Tea Party favorite Matt Bevin, it will be a much rockier road for the 71-year-old leader in the general election against Alison Lundergan Grimes, the Democratic secretary of state. Lundergan Grimes, held an early 46 percent to 42 percent lead over McConnell in a Feb. 7 SurveyUSA poll conducted by the Courier-Journal and WHAS-TV in Louisville. A Rasmussen poll a few days earlier showed the two in a virtual deadlock.

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1 posted on 04/14/2014 2:23:36 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

If (when?) it happens, the first round is on me. I'll break out the good stuff too.


2 posted on 04/14/2014 2:24:56 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: cotton1706

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 04/14/2014 2:25:05 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: cotton1706

I’ll vote for Bevin. If he wins the primary, I’ll vote for him again. If he loses, I’ll vote for Grimes.


4 posted on 04/14/2014 2:25:26 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
I’ll vote for Bevin. If he wins the primary, I’ll vote for him again. If he loses, I’ll vote for Grimes.


You are a moron.

ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO” , is better than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014.

It's people like you who brought us 4 more years of Obama and who knows how many more years of Harry Reid.

If you have your way, we will have several more years of Nancy Pelosi in addition to the other two.

5 posted on 04/14/2014 2:31:12 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: cotton1706

I hope that in Nov we can say good by and good riddance.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 2:32:42 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: cuban leaf; cotton1706; All
I’ll vote for Bevin. If he wins the primary,
I’ll vote for him again.
If he loses, I’ll vote for Grimes.
I concur, to quote a famous WWII general (Patton)...
"I'd rather have my "enemy" in front of me;
then my "Friend", stabbing me in the back."
or words to that effect.

7 posted on 04/14/2014 2:34:40 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: rdcbn

Nonsense. It is people like you who have ensured that Pelosi and Reid can do whatever they want to do, and pay no real political price. Keep doing what you are doing, and you are a vital component of what makes Reid and Pelosi so powerful. Calling other people “morons”, when you clearly lack the capacity to comprehend the bigger picture, is a bit much.

The Republican party doesn’t need to be bigger (although it would be nice, it isn’t necessary). It needs to be infinitely more effective, however. Your approach guarantees that that will never happen.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 2:35:54 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: rdcbn

Seriously, shuddup. It’s people like you that get down on your knee’s for the GOP-e and scuttle your ideals to pull that republican lever. I bet you’re a straight ticket voter thinking you are doing you part. Bet you’re not aware of some of the rule “changes” that happened a few years back within your vaunted republican party that essentially gives them (GOP-e) control over who is nominated to the platform.
Get a clue, the republican party as it stands today is no better than the democrats. They WILL NOT be getting rid of all the socialist crap foisted upon us the last six years, they are arrogant enough to think they can manage that socialism better. YOU will still get your wallet raped by the republican party, count. on. it.


9 posted on 04/14/2014 2:38:13 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: rdcbn; cuban leaf
ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO” , is better than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014.

Debatable. It's not cuban's leaf fault that Romney went down in 2012, or McCain in 2008.

It's people like you who brought us 4 more years of Obama and who knows how many more years of Harry Reid.

Cuban Leaf lives in Kentucky, so he has no control over Harry Reid in Nevada. I suggest you do a bit of research before calling someone a moron.

10 posted on 04/14/2014 2:38:26 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: rdcbn
It's people like you who brought us 4 more years of Obama and who knows how many more years of Harry Reid.

Untrue.

Its the GOPe and their distain for the base and its conservative principles that brought us 4 more years of Obama.

As soon as they put aside their big government bias they'll start convincingly winning elections again.

11 posted on 04/14/2014 2:39:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Get a clue, the republican party as it stands today is no better than the democrats.

GOPe is as responsible for the federal debt as Congressional Democrats. And GOPe is working harder to defeat Tea Partiers than trying to defeat Democrats.

12 posted on 04/14/2014 2:40:40 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: rdcbn

You are an idiot for calling him a moron.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 2:42:10 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: cotton1706
"Do you get the feeling that they're on to us, Mitch?"


14 posted on 04/14/2014 2:46:36 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: rdcbn
ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO” , is better than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014. It's people like you who brought us 4 more years of Obama and who knows how many more years of Harry Reid.

You nailed it. These fools who think they're hurting GOPe by putting in Democrats are ignorant. What they do is to defeat any chance of turning back the Democrat/Socialist/Nazi leadership now in place.

15 posted on 04/14/2014 2:46:45 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: rdcbn
ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO” , is better than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014.

Oh yeah? How are those RINOs doing stopping Obama's agenda? They've been at war more with the base than their perceived opponents.

Better if the RINO lose. I am done holding my nose.

16 posted on 04/14/2014 2:49:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: Kenny
You nailed it. These fools who think they're hurting GOPe by putting in Democrats are ignorant.

This is a conservative discussion board, not a "GOOOOO REPUBLICANS!" one.

17 posted on 04/14/2014 2:52:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: Kenny
These fools who think they're hurting GOPe by putting in Democrats are ignorant. What they do is to defeat any chance of turning back the Democrat/Socialist/Nazi leadership now in place.

How utterly brilliant you are. Notice the stellar effectiveness of the current opposition to Pelosi, Reid, and Obama. Why in the world would we risk losing that? You are right to resort to name-calling, since your argument is clearly self-evident, given how rapidly we are regaining our liberty. And it has been working ever since the Reagan era! By simply focusing on the R/D ratio, we are able to stymie the left at every turn.

The country thanks you for your brilliance (especially Pelosi, Reid, and Obama).
18 posted on 04/14/2014 2:54:25 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Night Hides Not
The GOP had both houses and the white house from 2003 to 2007.

How far did they roll big government back during that time of total control?

Zero. Government got bigger.

For some its enough that the governmental noose tightens more slowly when the GOP is in control.

But there are some for whom its not nearly enough. And all the nagging in the world won't make it so.

19 posted on 04/14/2014 2:55:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: rdcbn

“ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO” , is better than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014.”

You know, I’ve seen this trotted out before many times.

I’m going to have to ask you to explain this to me. Prove to me this is the case. If you can do this, I will vote for any McCainiac or Bloombergian GOP limp wrist they serve up.

If you can’t, however, then I think its time to retire the old canard.


20 posted on 04/14/2014 2:55:27 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You are an idiot for calling him a moron.


That may be true.

I also am probably rude and probably out of line for calling the poster a moron.

I possibly made a mistake in inferring that the poster was a moron for posting that comment.

However, that mistake is understandable given the fact that the poster posted a profoundly incorrect and most definitely moronic statement


21 posted on 04/14/2014 2:57:36 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn
However, that mistake is understandable given the fact that the poster posted a profoundly incorrect and most definitely moronic statement

One of the hallmarks of the left is that they always accuse their opposition of things that they themselves are guilty of.

Judging from your post, it is also a hallmark of the GOPe sycophants.
22 posted on 04/14/2014 3:01:58 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: jjsheridan5

You’re accusing me of name-calling?

The only way we beat Pelosi, Reid, & O with true conservatives is by working with the Tea Party to defeat the RINOs in the primary. Hopefully, you’ve contributed and worked with them.

If we can’t do that, can’t beat them in the primary then it’s either put Pelosi, Reid, & O back in leadership or change the balance of power. That would mean putting Republicans in the majority.

That’s it, that’s all we can do. For those of you who think preaching a passive approach to liberty is the answer (i.e. not voting or voting for the Democrat) you are dead wrong. THAT’S what has kept Democrats in power.

Democrats pull the lever every single time, many times more than once. They don’t need our help.


23 posted on 04/14/2014 3:02:29 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: rdcbn; cuban leaf; cotton1706; All
You are a moron. /// ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO”, is better
than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014.
not really; not by much.
DO you live in KY?; If not, you can't believe how vile and corrupt...
Mitch "Reid *itch" McConnell (GOP/e-Himself) has become.
In many ways, he's as corrupt as his Keeper / Master Reid.
"Reid's *itch" serves @ the pleasure of pResident 0'Muslim et.al.
We can hear Mitch's squealing from here.

He barely won re-election last time.
I know, I worked for his election in '84; of which, I'm very sorry.

24 posted on 04/14/2014 3:06:53 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Oh yeah? How are those RINOs doing stopping Obama’s agenda? They've been at war more with the base than their perceived opponents.


Uh... when last I checked, the Republicans have done pretty much every thing they can to shut down the Obama Agenda given their only control the House and they have been remarkably successful in many regards.

To make any meaningful progress on turning the clock back and reversing the damage the Obama Administration and the Democrats have done will take at least gaining control of the Senate and it will take a veto proof majority to do any serious reversing while Obama is in office.

If the ideological purists on the Conservative side had only turned out to vote for Republican Senate candidates and not voted at all for Romney, Conservatives could have had a voice in the Senate as well.

The way Harry Reid is running the Senate, the Republican minority has ZERO power to do ANYTHING

25 posted on 04/14/2014 3:09:07 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: cotton1706

Those two feckless ‘Rat ENABLERS must GO!


26 posted on 04/14/2014 3:15:10 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: rdcbn
The way Harry Reid is running the Senate, the Republican
minority has ZERO power to do ANYTHING
Well...You did get that right...
(GOP/r) McConnell / Boehmer, are much too torpid

27 posted on 04/14/2014 3:16:52 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: rdcbn

“ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO” , is better than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014.”

Ordinarily, you would be correct. However, in two elections this year, in KY and SC, removing McConnell and Graham at any cost would advance the principles of Liberty, for they are both very dangerous oligarchs. The democrat would indeed be, the lesser of two evils!


28 posted on 04/14/2014 3:19:08 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Kenny
That’s it, that’s all we can do. For those of you who think preaching a passive approach to liberty is the answer (i.e. not voting or voting for the Democrat) you are dead wrong. THAT’S what has kept Democrats in power.

This is not a passive approach. It is about identifying and tackling the real problem. There are always going to be demagogues like Pelosi and Reid. The problem is that they have ZERO opposition at this point, because Republican voters insist on voting for the lesser of two evils.

Getting a majority "R" poses no real problem for Pelosi and Reid, since they know that a) the leadership of the "R"s acquiesces almost without fail, b) the current Republican leadership makes expanding the base virtually impossible, since the Republicans lack any underlying conviction, and c) in a roughly split country, any republican majority would be short-lived, anyway (this is why they were willing to sacrifice the house in order to accomplish their goals on health care -- they understand what many Republican voters don't seem to).

A nominal control over the house and the senate would do very little. Failing to rid the party of its current leadership, however, has had (and will continue to have) dire repercussions.
29 posted on 04/14/2014 3:26:35 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: RinaseaofDs

“ANY Republican, even the biggest “RHINO” , is better than ANY Democrat currently in Congress or up for election in 2014.”

That is a statement born of abject ignorance on its face! There you have the word “any.” That’s where the problem lies. It’s one thing to say well, Scott Brown isn’t my kind of Republican but he’s way ahead of Shaneen in terms of where he stands, and it’s an entirely different matter to say that one of the GOP’s “top leaders” ( i.e. McConnell) will “lead us to victory” if given the chance. The only reason to re-elect McConnell would be if not doing so would keep the Senate in RAT hands. If we can get control of the Senate and send old Scrotum Chin back home permanently, I am all for it. In fact, with one or two exceptions, ousting the GOP “old guard” is a good thing. I am just sorry that we still have guys like Hatch, McCain and Cochran around consuming oxygen in the Senate.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 3:35:32 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: rdcbn
Party over principle blah blah blah.

4q

31 posted on 04/14/2014 3:40:21 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Manic_Episode

bump


32 posted on 04/14/2014 3:42:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cotton1706

If McConnell goes down who is on deck to take his place? I hate to think about the possibilities. Maybe the GOP would go by seniority and alphabetical order in make McCain majority leader.


33 posted on 04/14/2014 3:50:10 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: rdcbn
Uh... when last I checked, the Republicans have done pretty much every thing they can to shut down the Obama Agenda given their only control the House and they have been remarkably successful in many regards.

ROFL - Are you high or drunk?

34 posted on 04/14/2014 3:52:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: forgotten man

Susan Collins.
“The first woman Senate Majority Leader”!!!!!!!

Won’t that be ‘special’...


35 posted on 04/14/2014 4:07:34 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

ugh


36 posted on 04/14/2014 4:11:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: rdcbn

And it is you wussies who brought us RINOs are us. I will never ever vote for a RINO ever again. And if you had any brains or backbone you wouldn’t either.


37 posted on 04/14/2014 4:13:50 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: forgotten man

“If McConnell goes down who is on deck to take his place?”

I know both Cornyn and Alexander want the position. And they’ve been grooming Ron Johnson, who’d be sort of a middle pick, a Tea Party elected conservative with establishment leanings and votes.

I’d like to see Mike Lee, who should be in the leadership one way or another after 2015. He’s brilliant.


38 posted on 04/14/2014 4:15:58 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: jjsheridan5
This is not a passive approach. It is about identifying and tackling the real problem.

The 'real' problem is Democrats, period. We're not in a timeframe where we can try to fix it all in one election, if we lose again, it's over.

I am not defending RINOs, they need to go but we won't have enough clout to do anything, including stopping Democrat tyranny, if we don't get a majority.

Maybe you can tell me how, if we let the House go and don't take back the Senate, we are ever going to fix anything. Another two years with Democrats in control and we won't have to worry about who gets 'elected' because it will all be bogus or gone.

Surely you see that.

39 posted on 04/14/2014 4:32:09 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: cotton1706
.I’d like to see Mike Lee, who should be in the leadership one way or another after 2015. He’s brilliant.

Imagine what a Cruz presidency might accomplish with Mike Lee as Majority Leader of the Senate!!!

40 posted on 04/14/2014 4:35:11 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: cuban leaf
I’ll vote for Bevin. If he wins the primary, I’ll vote for him again. If he loses, I’ll vote for Grimes.

You are either an idiot or a troll. Maybe we should just let the Dems take control of the whole country. Hey! Let's vote for Hillary if we don't get a Republican who will reduce the size of government (an issue nearest to my heart).

41 posted on 04/14/2014 4:48:02 PM PDT by neocon1984
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To: rdcbn

No, it’s people like you who were unwilling to draw a line who gave us “leaders” who fight for the other side.

McConnell is one of the folks who must go, even it it means the GOP loses the seat. Graham is another.


42 posted on 04/14/2014 4:49:04 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Kenny
The 'real' problem is Democrats, period. We're not in a timeframe where we can try to fix it all in one election, if we lose again, it's over.

Nope. The real problem is the GOP is divided and ineffective. You can't defeat rampaging marxists when a wing of the opposition party pinch hits for Team Dem on all the big issues.

43 posted on 04/14/2014 4:59:01 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Nope. The real problem is the GOP is divided and ineffective.

God help us, the Bundy ranch is under attack, they tried to give the Internet away, Obama has unilaterally disarmed America, the Democrats have implemented socialized medicine and all we've got to fight them with is 'big picture' guys like yourself.

44 posted on 04/14/2014 5:01:42 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny
If we can’t do that, can’t beat them in the primary then it’s either put Pelosi, Reid, & O back in leadership or change the balance of power. That would mean putting Republicans in the majority.

That's not what the GOPe does. They couldn't beat Mike Lee in a primary. So they back stabbed him when he got to DC. They couldn't beat Ted Cruz so they back stabbed him in DC. And on and on. Until the GOP fights the Dems like Dems fight the GOP we will continue losing.

45 posted on 04/14/2014 5:06:32 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Kenny
God help us, the Bundy ranch is under attack, they tried to give the Internet away, Obama has unilaterally disarmed America, the Democrats have implemented socialized medicine and all we've got to fight them with is 'big picture' guys like yourself.

Yep. All that happened and the GOP barely says a word about it. The kenyan is ready to hand a spy authorization to Putin this week and John Boehner hasn't said a damn word about it.

The GOP is asleep at the wheel. There is no engaged opposition to all those issues you are so worried about. Electing more do nothing Republicans isn't going to change anything these next two years. They already said we must wait until 2017.

46 posted on 04/14/2014 5:12:02 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

I understand we’re having a civil war within the GOP and I’m all for it but not at the expense of liberty. If we don’t get the Democrats out in ‘14, we’re done.

I’m hoping that conservatives are working their butts off for Tea Party candidates in the primaries. It can be won, Cruz and Lee are proof but it’s not an overnight process. We can’t feel defeated at every loss, we have to keep fighting.

All that said I will never, NEVER vote for a Democrat and I’ll vote for the Republican in 2014 every single time. I want Democrats out.


47 posted on 04/14/2014 5:12:57 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: lodi90
There is no engaged opposition to all those issues you are so worried about. Electing more do nothing Republicans isn't going to change anything these next two years.

So what's your plan? I hear a lot about what we shouldn't do, shouldn't support do-nothing Republicans, etc. but I'm not hearing what we should do.

What's the plan if we throw away the House and Senate in '14? How are we going to 'fix' the Republican party by doing that? I'm listening.

48 posted on 04/14/2014 5:17:51 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny
God help us, the Bundy ranch is under attack, they tried to give the Internet away, Obama has unilaterally disarmed America, the Democrats have implemented socialized medicine and all we've got to fight them with is 'big picture' guys like yourself.

The reason that we have nothing to fight back with is because of Republican voters opting for the lesser of two evils. The inevitable result of that has been a Republican party that is hopelessly ineffective and, more often than not, is indifferent about any of these issues. That is what the "small picture" people have given us. You are unintentionally undermining your own point. We have no real representation anymore, since the people who nominally represent us, don't.

A smaller, but more effective, political party would make the Democrats pay dearly for all of these transgressions (in addition to the hundreds not mentioned here). Either the transgressions would come to an end, or the smaller, but more effective, party would get a lot larger.

But because Republican voters think they are being smart in voting for "republicans" because they are not "democrats", the Democrats can get away with anything and everything. The only way to change this pattern is to get rid of the perpetrators of that pattern -- GOPe "Republicans". The only way to do that is to stop the insanity of voting them into office.
49 posted on 04/14/2014 5:18:47 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: jjsheridan5

Good luck, hope your plan works because we’re all screwed if it doesn’t.

Oh wait, there was no actual plan.


50 posted on 04/14/2014 5:21:33 PM PDT by Kenny
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