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UNITED UKRAINE: The Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready for combat.
Channel 5 ^ | 4-14-2014 2 hours ago

Posted on 04/14/2014 3:34:52 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

21:14 The Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready for combat.

"As of today, Ukraine's armed forces are prepared to fulfill the tasks defined by decision of the National Security and Defense," A statement made by Acting Minister for Defense Mykhailo Koval on First National TV Channel. He went on to say that the armed forces can take action without a declaration of martial law under the anti-terrorist operation. - Channel5



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: cricketversuslion; military; patriotism; russia; ukraine
PLEASE pray for Ukraine. Their military has much heart, but not have the technology, training and military supplies. They are facing mercenary Afghan/Kosevo hardened troops. I do understand patriotism. My own son wanted to enlist after 9-11. But, violence and death is such a waste of these young men. Please pray.. please pray
1 posted on 04/14/2014 3:34:52 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

1 hour ago:
00:06 Activists have marched on the Verkhovna Rada, demanding that the central government take action to quell the uprisings that have spread throughout much of eastern Ukraine since April 6. The protesters are calling for the resignation of Interior Minister Arsen Avakov. Protesters in Kyiv and elsewhere have expressed frustration at the government’s reluctance to send troops to eastern Ukraine to combat the separatist movements that are devouring large areas of the country. - KyivPost


2 posted on 04/14/2014 3:38:09 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Prayers up for defenders of their freedom.


3 posted on 04/14/2014 3:39:05 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Does the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances that Clinton signed 12/5/1994 mean anything?


4 posted on 04/14/2014 3:44:09 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
How long until an Obama world results in China reclaiming Taiwan? Poland, Estonia, go back to the Russians? The Faulklands go back to Argentina?

Alaska next?

5 posted on 04/14/2014 3:44:58 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: All

God be with them as they meet their enemy in combat.

Kick some Rusky a** and take names.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 3:45:32 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
They are facing mercenary Afghan/Kosevo hardened troops.

Well... The Russians didn't really do any fighting in Kosovo. They just squatted on an airport for a while. And as for Afghanistan, are you kidding? The youngest of those Russian soldiers would be in their mid forties now. If there are any experienced Russian troops lined up on the Ukrainian border they got their experience fighting in Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Ossetia, and Georgia. Most of the fighting in those places amounted to homicidal policing, not combat. Pity the Ukrainian civilians if they do invade and the Ukrainian army can't repel them.

7 posted on 04/14/2014 3:47:50 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Proud2BeRight

Does the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances that Clinton signed 12/5/1994 mean anything?

Not with Clinton, Obama, Reid, Boehner, Pelosi, et al in office.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 3:53:48 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Ukraine was never united. Especially right now.

9 posted on 04/14/2014 3:57:59 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: Proud2BeRight

No, because it was never legally ratified in the US by Congress. Besides, did Monica’s blue dress mean anything?


10 posted on 04/14/2014 3:58:24 PM PDT by dforest
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To: blackdog

Obama has had nearly as much luck getting Taiwan admit to and get rid of their nuclear arsenal as he has had with Israel.

Obamatism only works on Muslims, evidently.


11 posted on 04/14/2014 3:58:45 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: WhiskeyX

It meant nothing the day it was signed...it was just a ploy to get the ICBMs away from the Ukrainians.

Best that could possibly happen now is to hold free elections immediately and also allow an internationally observed referendum in the east.

Military escalation will just get a lot of boys killed and wind up with Russia in control of the east/south if not Kiev itself.


12 posted on 04/14/2014 3:59:00 PM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Mmmmmm, not sure they wouldn’t switch sides first.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 3:59:03 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: McGruff

Exactly! The East is Russian and the West is Slavic, it’s just the way it is. In some places, desegregation just doesn’t work.


14 posted on 04/14/2014 4:02:19 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
00:06 Activists have marched on the Verkhovna Rada, demanding that the central government take action to quell the uprisings that have spread throughout much of eastern Ukraine since April 6. The protesters are calling for the resignation of Interior Minister Arsen Avakov.

I find it kind of weird that Ukraine appointed an academic in what appears to be the field of sociology to the position of Interior Minister which, in Europe, typically is in charge of keeping public order and has under his thumb, both police and paramilitary forces. For instance, the revolt in Chechnya was put down, in large part, by Russia's Interior Ministry. A lot of Interior Ministers are ex-cop or ex-military. Appointing a scribbler to a position that requires a doer in a time of undeclared war by Russia is just mind-boggling.

15 posted on 04/14/2014 4:05:02 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Seesharp.. sorry I meant Chechnya. But, I am reading so many posts (thru GOOGLE TRANSLATE)
Right now literally ‘the call’ has gone out with lists of phone numbers to enlist. All ages are signing up.
PLEASE pray. Their weapons are outdated & few.


16 posted on 04/14/2014 4:05:17 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Zhang Fei You have to understand. Russian take over has been planned for 7 years. Putin had arranged for key figures to be put in place.

I am a Christian. I have faith in God, but my understanding of evil attacks my faith. PLEASE pray for Ukraine ot stay united


17 posted on 04/14/2014 4:09:57 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: SeeSharp
If there are any experienced Russian troops lined up on the Ukrainian border they got their experience fighting in Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Ossetia, and Georgia. Most of the fighting in those places amounted to homicidal policing, not combat. Pity the Ukrainian civilians if they do invade and the Ukrainian army can't repel them.

If the Ukrainians do fight, I'd pity the Russian troops. Chechnya plus its Caucasian cousins came to a few million people in postage stamp-sized areas. Ukraine is the size of Texas with 50m people. Armed with captured WWII weaponry, Bandera and his men killed 30K Russians and collaborators in a period of 10 years. Nobody knows how things will play out, but a rerun of the partition of Yugoslavia will see, at minimum, tens of thousands of Russians going home in body bags.

18 posted on 04/14/2014 4:12:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

McGruff
I understand the ethnic/economic divisions. Perhaps a comparable would be if Mexico invaded... oh that’s right they already are! But, seriously.

Putin is NOT well liked except by those on the take. Hitler was at first appreciated because of German’s shame & economic crisis following WWI. Well, Russia is similarly conflicted. You may not understand (or heard) that in Russia there is huge support (& protests) for Ukraine.


19 posted on 04/14/2014 4:18:59 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Obama is a muslim. He arms the muslim brotherhood and Islamist insurgents in Syria, but won’t have anything to do with sending arms to western Ukrainians.
Hey Congress, can we impeach him and dump him yet?
Oh I forgot, Harry Reid is too busy killing cattle and their calves so he can build worthless solar panels.


20 posted on 04/14/2014 4:20:13 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Yes, Seasharp. “Grizzled” old miners have already met in towns & determined to use explosives to avoid occupation by these “homeless.”


21 posted on 04/14/2014 4:23:38 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Bobalu

I’ll remember to NEVER sign a contract with you.


22 posted on 04/14/2014 4:25:21 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
UKRAINIAN CONCERNS GOOGLE TRANSLATE: ATTENTION Everyone! RELIABLE, TIMELY AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM SLAVIANSK! 1) today on the roofs of the buildings AS the POLICE DEPARTMENT gave the snipers emerged, and special operations forces (MTR) of the Russian Federation. 2) sloviansk organized Roadblocks on such items:-"Kombikormnyj"; -"LES" (exit to Slavânsku the route Rostov-Kharkov)-"Bylbasovka"; -"Red Bridge"; -"Čerevkovka" (Kramatorsk of entry); -"Semenivka (Kharkiv-Rostov highway entrance from Donetsk); -MPEG (entry with the same route from the BZS), "Anreevka-Mašmet" (entrance from old town of Kramatorsk, Âsnogorki). At checkpoints is young (from 16 to 24 years old), but since today each checkpoint also present senior "curators" of the special services of the Russian Federation. 3) today measures of Nelia Shtepa officially recognized that the captured POLICE and SBU Of buildings "NO RESIDENT of"! All invaders visiting GUEST PERFORMERS, delivered from the border regions of the Russian Federation. Attention! Information from the inhabitants of the city. About 70 percent were strongly against separatism and even today, if antiterrorist operation of of Kiev was confident residents were ready to come out and support Ukraine rally. Today they huddled on apartments and just be afraid of (quote) "Kiev us merges the Russians". I'm not inclined to whip up hysteria, but you need to give people at least hope and support, we must act firmly and without delay or else people are disappointed in the ability of the Kiev defend him! No separatism in Eastern Ukraine. It is a direct aggression of RUSSIA by the rigidities of the situation in the region had undercover and special services.
23 posted on 04/14/2014 5:08:27 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Bobalu

“Military escalation will just get a lot of boys killed and wind up with Russia in control of the east/south if not Kiev itself.”

Then command your Russian fiends in the Kremlin to immediately cease and desist with their escalations of the crisis by their criminal invasions of the Ukraine.


24 posted on 04/14/2014 5:17:03 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: McGruff
Ukraine was never united. Especially right now.

Your election map is meaningless. Yanukovich ran on an EU platform. He didn't run on a let's-get-taken-over-by-Russia platform.

Ukraine is united in many respects.

There's not one Oblast east or west that has a majority of folks who want to join Russia.

25 posted on 04/14/2014 5:27:32 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tobyhill
Exactly! The East is Russian and the West is Slavic,

Exactly wrong.


26 posted on 04/14/2014 5:30:34 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Zhang Fei
Armed with captured WWII weaponry

Did you really just say that?

Bandera and his men killed 30K Russians and collaborators in a period of 10 years.

In the 1940's and 1950's?

27 posted on 04/14/2014 6:03:26 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: tobyhill
Exactly! The East is Russian and the West is Slavic

Um... The Russians are Slavs.

28 posted on 04/14/2014 6:09:27 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: FreeReign

Ethnic Russians have been infiltrating the East Ukraine since your 2001 map. They planned on taking Crimea for a decade now and they had no intention of being land locked down there.


29 posted on 04/14/2014 7:07:48 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: SeeSharp

Yes and no. Most Russians consider themselves just Russian but with the Soviet breakup most of the Western Slav nations they unite themselves by heritage.
The Slavic Empire has been gone for a while now.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 7:34:39 PM PDT by tobyhill
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