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Angry Patients Find Obamacare's Annual Checkups May Not Be Free
News Max ^ | 14 April 2014 | Drew MacKenzie

Posted on 04/14/2014 5:08:17 PM PDT by Lorianne

Obamacare patients who go to their doctors for a free annual checkup are finding out that they may have to pay for the preventive healthcare visit after all.

They are angry to learn that if they mention past or ongoing health concerns during the physical, that can result in co-pays and deductibles, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Under the Affordable Care Act, preventive care includes screenings for high blood pressure and high cholesterol counts, evaluations for several cancers and diabetes, and vaccinations. The patient is allowed, in most cases, one checkup per year.

But "wellness" care on potential new health issues is viewed as "evaluation and monitoring," and leads to patients having to fork out for the "free" annual physical.

"Patients are scheduling physicals because physicals are free," Randy Wexler, a family physician in Columbus, Ohio, told the Journal. "But they come in and say, 'I've been having headaches. My back has been bothering me, and I'm depressed.' That's not part of a physical. That will trigger a copay."

Wexler says they are not happy about the charges. "They'll say, 'I have diabetes and hypertension and heart disease and seeing you is preventing them from getting worse, so that should be fully covered,'" he said. "But under that theory, everything would be free with no copay."

Doctors told the Journal that seniors have started canceling their annual wellness visits under their Medicare plans when they learn that if they mention a current health issue during the checkup they will likely be charged a co-pay.

Some doctors are even warning patients in advance of the problem and ask them to schedule two visits, one for the "annual" and another for their current health issue, according to the Journal.

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KEYWORDS: copay; obamacare; outofpocket
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So, what to do?

Go to your doctor and say you're here for your "free" annual checkup. If he asks you ANY question whatsoever, just say you can't discuss that with him. Name and serial number only, that's it.

Just say you want your free stuff and that's it.

Now, how is he going to know which diagnostic test to order if he you can't tell him any of your medical information? He won't. Just say you want them all. Every single test that is free whether it applies to you or not, just get it. But don't give ANY medical information at all about yourself

Sounds like really good healthcare to me.

1 posted on 04/14/2014 5:08:18 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

You voted for it America.

You called me a racist when I tried to warn you.

Now you can all kiss my ass.


2 posted on 04/14/2014 5:10:15 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Lorianne

Thy’re only angry because they have to pay.They were perfectly fine with someone else having to pay for their check-up.


3 posted on 04/14/2014 5:12:15 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Lorianne
My new "compliant" plan doesn't cover check ups at all, as my old "non-compliant" plan did. They are 100% applied to the $5k deductible.

I'm ready to quit it altogether as soon as I can get a line on a local co-op. I'll make out like a bandit paying the annual penalty.

4 posted on 04/14/2014 5:12:19 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Lorianne
Yet ANOTHER lie? Glorioski!
5 posted on 04/14/2014 5:12:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Lorianne

A whole bunch of really stupid people are about to find out there’s no such thing as free lunch.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 5:13:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Tzimisce

The lure of possible freebies has foisted the obamanation of Obamacare on all off us. We have become the United States of free stuff. A pox on them all.


7 posted on 04/14/2014 5:14:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Farmer Dean

They can blame it on Obama, if they can get their heads out of their asses long enough to see the truth.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 5:15:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Lorianne

Wait until they get the bills for the blood tests. There will be charges from doctors whom they never met.


9 posted on 04/14/2014 5:16:23 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Lorianne

The ACA collects all your personal info when you sign up for it. That’s how the doc gets paid, the lab, the hospital...

You have to probably give a card to show you have ACA. I’m sure they have a medical record on you from any previous visits to anywhere.


10 posted on 04/14/2014 5:16:42 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Where’s my free cell phone?!!!


11 posted on 04/14/2014 5:16:55 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I truly believe our Republic died when the Supreme Court ruled Obamacare legal.

Even if the law is repealed, our Congress STILL has the power to make us buy ANYTHING - even against our will.


12 posted on 04/14/2014 5:17:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Lorianne

If the Obamadork:

Speaks - he lies.
Sleeps - he lies.
Winks - he lies.
Writes a biography - he lies many many times...to include the verb “writes”.
Shows his birth certificate - he lies.
Tries to demonstrate intelligence - he lies (very badly).
Claims he is anything other than a Muslim - face it, libs, he LIES.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 5:19:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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14 posted on 04/14/2014 5:20:07 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Lorianne

The “annual checkup” can be run from a home computer with a couple of USB sensors.


15 posted on 04/14/2014 5:20:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lorianne

Doctors told the Journal that seniors have started canceling their annual wellness visits under their Medicare plans when they learn that if they mention a current health issue during the checkup they will likely be charged a co-pay.


Just wait till these seniors find out they won’t be able to get knee/hip replacements or heart surgery or cancer treatment.


16 posted on 04/14/2014 5:21:03 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: forgotten man

Go in for a colonoscopy under Obamacare it is free unless they find a polyp and they remove it now it becomes a surgical procedure and subject to not your co pay as it used to be but goes against your deductible....enjoy America.


17 posted on 04/14/2014 5:21:58 PM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Lorianne

“if they mention past or ongoing health concerns during the physical, that can result in co-pays and deductibles,”

Why would you want to mention ongoing health concerns in an annual physical. I mean cmon these are for a checkup not for treatment.

/s for the s impaired.


18 posted on 04/14/2014 5:22:18 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lorianne

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


19 posted on 04/14/2014 5:23:02 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Lorianne

Free S-— isn’t Free after all.


20 posted on 04/14/2014 5:23:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tzimisce

Yes, the “interstate commerce” clause has now been interpreted to mean that NOT choosing to participate in commerce is in fact participating in commerce. Congress now has the power to do literally anything it wants to your paycheck.


21 posted on 04/14/2014 5:23:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Lorianne

Obama will make it free tomorrow


22 posted on 04/14/2014 5:24:55 PM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Lorianne
Your idea sounds exactly what my mother - a hypochondriac of long-standing - has been getting under Medicare for the last 25 years!
23 posted on 04/14/2014 5:25:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Lorianne

Nothing in Life is Free.

It may be “included”, but it’s never Free.


24 posted on 04/14/2014 5:26:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Lorianne

25 posted on 04/14/2014 5:27:07 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Jim Robinson
But they've become accustomed to getting a free lunch courtesy of the government.The idea of actually paying for something must come as quite a shock to them.
26 posted on 04/14/2014 5:27:18 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The Supreme Court said that Congress can *TAX US* for *NOT* doing something.

Thus:

They can make us buy a Prius or pay a million dollar fine.
They can make us buy solar panels or pay a million dollar fine.
They can make us buy a bottle of wine from Nancy Pelosi’s private stock or pay a million dollar fine.

EVERY election is now super important, because literally ANYTHING they say now goes.


27 posted on 04/14/2014 5:28:28 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Lorianne

Bump


28 posted on 04/14/2014 5:32:16 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Tzimisce
They forgot to read the fine print. A bill created by democrats has to be scrutinized like a car loan from crooked used car salesman. Honesty is a foreign concept to the scumbag democrats.
29 posted on 04/14/2014 5:33:56 PM PDT by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: forgotten man

My husband had to go to the emergency room the first week of January because after kidney stone surgery ehe was having a very bad headache and his bllod pressure was over 220 over 100. All they did was run an EKG, test his urine (we don’t know why because he didn’t get the results until a few days later), and then they gave him some pills. It was over $1000 dollars and he was only there for like 2 hours.

He was smart and aked them if they really needed to take his blood because he had already had a blood test for the kidney stone. They still charged him, but we got that off his bill.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 5:35:18 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Tzimisce
You voted for it America. You called me a racist when I tried to warn you. Now you can all kiss my ass.

Exactly. They ignored the warnings and of course the Obama rah-rah crowd (the media) ignored the rough time those of us living under Romneycare were enduring.

If these folks aren't happy about co-pays...oh man just wait until they land in the hospital. My two-day stay a while back cost me thousands as I burned through my deductible. A two-day stay, but the bills started showing up in the mail months later...the hospital, this testing company, that E.R. bill, a specialist or two...and keep on paying that monthly premium!

If only there was a way to inflict this only on Obama voters.
31 posted on 04/14/2014 5:36:08 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: BubbaBobTX

They don’t charge for polyp removals. My husband and I have both had colonoscopies with polyps removed in the past month.


32 posted on 04/14/2014 5:36:31 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Lorianne

So, in other words, the “free” annual obamacare checkup is “free” ONLY if you don’t really need it!

That’s perfect, just perfect!


33 posted on 04/14/2014 5:37:36 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Lorianne

Stop your complaining, your birth control is free!!


34 posted on 04/14/2014 5:44:16 PM PDT by jch10 (The Democrat mascot shouldnÂ’t be the donkey; it should be the tick.)
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To: Lorianne

I wants mah free Obamaprobe!


35 posted on 04/14/2014 5:46:07 PM PDT by polymuser
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To: Farmer Dean

“They’re only angry because they have to pay.They were perfectly fine with someone else having to pay for their check-up.”

Exactly!


36 posted on 04/14/2014 6:06:03 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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37 posted on 04/14/2014 6:08:50 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tzimisce

The annual check up paid was one of the first things to go.


38 posted on 04/14/2014 6:16:37 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Da Coyote

“If Zero s mouth is moving, he’s lying” simple as that.


39 posted on 04/14/2014 6:18:12 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: luckystarmom
then the biller screwed up, polyp removal is NOT included in a screening colonoscopy... count your blessings
40 posted on 04/14/2014 6:32:46 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Lorianne

I actually just heard this at the presentation at my job today about the plan we are switching too. The broker (or whatever he was, he was not the guy from the insurance company) also said: you know how Obamacare has made prices go up.

I was a little surprised to hear a pro just say that straight out like that.

Not that it isn’t true of course!

Like I said this is a new place for me, but that made me feel pretty comfortable there.

The coverage and the cost is very much ok, so I am very grateful for that. And the big boss actually went himself and got extra chairs for me and 2 other ladies who were standing, so that was also very nice.


41 posted on 04/14/2014 6:46:25 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: LostInBayport

I can’t believe some of the things I had said to me throughout the Obamacare debate. Life long friends I’ve known for years were not only disagreeing with me, but accusing me of racism, hatred, greed, wanting people to die, etc.

There are a bunch of people I’ll never talk to again.

Well it turns out I’M RIGHT - so they can all SUCK ON THAT.

I hope every one of the gets COMPLETELY MANHANDLED under Obamacare.

You get what you pay for and this is “free”.


42 posted on 04/14/2014 6:49:28 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: peeps36

Don’t EVER trust ANYONE who says they want to control your life.

I don’t understand how so many can be so completely stupid.

But they’re about to learn....


43 posted on 04/14/2014 6:50:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: forgotten man

You are so correct about that.

In preparation for cataract surgery with my eye doctor had to go find a PCP for a physical. She ordered an EKG, visit to a Cardiologist, chest x-ray, extensive blood work and a stress test. Told her IMO that was overkill for cataract surgery.

Medicare denied all the blood work and so lab located in same office with PCP sent me a bill which was at 8 times the rate Medicare would have allowed. I paid them the Medicare allowance for three tests and told them they could write off all the rest, including the $20 charge they made for “Administration of Professional Guidelines on Chain of Custody Procedures Associated with Urine Specimens”. Also have received six other bills from places I never went for things I never agreed to. Just ridiculous.

Docs are so afraid of getting sued. Excessive testing should be justification for filing a lawsuit.


44 posted on 04/14/2014 7:01:35 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Your post certainly rings true with me.

When I had surgery for cancer, I had to go in a week before and let them spend 2 hrs proving I was healthy enough to operate on, LOL.


45 posted on 04/14/2014 7:03:26 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: RginTN
Doctors told the Journal that seniors have started canceling their annual wellness visits under their Medicare plans when they learn that if they mention a current health issue during the checkup they will likely be charged a co-pay.

How many seniors have no current health issues?

46 posted on 04/14/2014 7:28:06 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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To: Jim Robinson
A whole bunch of really stupid people are about to find out there’s no such thing as free lunch.

Yes, these stupid people will. The question is: who will they blame?

47 posted on 04/14/2014 7:30:02 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Lorianne
So what's new? I am on Medicare, have a few ailments, and when I go for my annual, they check out the status of my ills, run blood tests, etc. I have ALWAYS had a copay.

Good grief! What good is a physical if you go in, play dumb, and discuss nothing--a waste of time.

vaudine

48 posted on 04/14/2014 7:34:25 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Lorianne

you need an I.D. card to have Obamacare, but you don’t need one to vote.........????


49 posted on 04/14/2014 7:44:42 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: Lorianne

But he promised.


50 posted on 04/14/2014 7:58:32 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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