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Regulation Nation: Breweries fight back against new government grain rules
FOX ^ | 4-14-14 | Garrett Tenney

Posted on 04/14/2014 8:27:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog

A fight is brewing between American beer makers and the federal government over happy hour ... for cows.

For centuries, brewers have given or sold the leftover grain from the brewing process to local ranchers and dairy farmers for cattle feed. But new regulations proposed by the Food and Drug Administration threaten to end that relationship.

"The whole brewing community was shocked about it," said Josh Deth, co-owner of Revolution Brewing in Chicago, Ill.

Deth, whose title is "Chairman of the Party," says it's always been a great deal for both sides. The ranchers get the grain, and the brewers get those leftovers removed from their facilities for free.

"We're trading, giving something of value to each other and working it out. I think that's one of the really great things, and people really hate to see the government get involved in something where they can just as easily stay out of this."

Under the FDA's proposed regulations, so-called spent grains would be regulated the same as pet food -- meaning brewers would first be required to dry and package the grain without it coming into contact with humans.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beer

1 posted on 04/14/2014 8:27:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

I really have to wonder how we survived so long without additional regulation. Well, maybe I don’t. I would be completely happy to go back a 100 or 150 years and deal with the regulations of those days.


2 posted on 04/14/2014 8:31:51 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: smokingfrog

It’s a cow. They eat off the ground. Why would we need to sterilize their food ?


3 posted on 04/14/2014 8:35:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: smokingfrog
"We are working to develop regulations that are responsive to the concerns expressed, practical for businesses, and that also help ensure that food for animals is safe and will not cause injury to animals or humans," the FDA said.

Translation - we have to keep coming up with BS laws to justify our existence -- the consequences of our ham-handed stupidity are YOUR problem, suckas.

4 posted on 04/14/2014 8:37:23 PM PDT by Gasshog (DemoKKKrats: Leaders of the Free Sh!t World)
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To: Gasshog

Non -legislated Laws need to be stifled, with budgetary prejudice.


5 posted on 04/14/2014 8:39:59 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: smokingfrog

Too many taxes.

Too many laws.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 8:43:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: smokingfrog

“The ranchers get the grain, and the brewers get those leftovers removed from their facilities for free.”

And the government can’t make any money on the deal.

This is one of the stupider rules/laws I’ve seen from the FDA in a while. It’s also a good lesson in how the private sector can sometime makes lemons from lemonade if allowed to figure out a solution. There was a similar scenario back in the 1980’s/90’s between film processing companies and plant food makers. One of the biggest waste products of film processing apparently was an essential compound in plant foods (can’t remember what it was). The plant food companies took the waste off the film producer/processors hands and both industries got a sweet deal.


7 posted on 04/14/2014 8:54:10 PM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

There’s nothing that Obama can’t screw up


8 posted on 04/14/2014 8:58:25 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: RightGeek

This is not a screw up it is an intention effort to put more cattle farmers out of business. Cattle farmers operate on a slim margin, I speak of small cattle farmers as I once was one, that will kill a lot of small family farms.


9 posted on 04/14/2014 9:09:22 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: DemforBush

Similar kind of thing happened when power plants had to start scrubbing their flue gases for sulphur. The byproduct of that is a synthetic gypsum. This stuff is 95% pure and the purity s nearly constant. We figured out we could use it to make sheetrock with some minor modifications to our plants (it is a little denser than natural rock). So now most sheetrock made in the eastern US is made out of coal power plant waste, that used to go straight to the landfill.


10 posted on 04/14/2014 9:11:35 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: smokingfrog

The Federal Government is going to regulate us into starvation.


11 posted on 04/14/2014 9:17:47 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: BenLurkin
“Too many taxes.

Too many laws.”

Too many bureaucrats

12 posted on 04/14/2014 9:20:04 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: RightGeek
There’s nothing that Obama can’t screw up

Beg pardon, there's a better way of putting it...

There's nothing that government can't screw up.

Unproductive meddling in the free market, such as this, is hardly a trait exclusive to the Obama administration.

13 posted on 04/14/2014 9:20:59 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: smokingfrog

“We’re trading, giving something of value to each other and working it out.”

And that is something the govt just cannot tolerate.


14 posted on 04/14/2014 9:34:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: smokingfrog

In conjunction with the BLM activities it looks to me as if what the feds want is for EVERYONE (but Emperor O ) to become vegans


15 posted on 04/14/2014 9:38:32 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: okie01

Government has the excrement touch, as opposed to the Midas touch...


16 posted on 04/14/2014 10:05:13 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: smokingfrog
are the cows hopping mad?
are they foaming at the mouth?
then what's the problem? Oh, yeah, an alphabet agency
17 posted on 04/14/2014 10:27:24 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: smokingfrog

Since when are feed lot cattle or dairy cattle pets?


18 posted on 04/14/2014 10:40:51 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Axenolith
Government has the excrement touch, as opposed to the Midas touch...

There is no market or institution in which the federal government has intervened that has not been damaged irreparably.

19 posted on 04/14/2014 10:50:57 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: smokingfrog

If this regulation is passed, it will do tremendous damage to the brewing industry. Most brewers actually sell the spent malt to ranchers as a highly nutritious feed. The money pays for the brewing costs while the ranchers save on the cost of feed. It makes for a perfect system. If the government regulators wanted to ruin a perfect system, this would be it.


20 posted on 04/15/2014 12:59:00 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: smokingfrog

Had Enough Yet ?


21 posted on 04/15/2014 1:40:16 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: smokingfrog
The chef at a local restaurant uses left over grains from the microbrewery across the street. Spent grain makes for fabulous bread!
22 posted on 04/15/2014 1:55:54 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse to better - Richard Hooker. Article V.)
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To: smokingfrog; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; ...

The FDA: ruining people’s lives since whenever it was created.

Nanny State PING!


23 posted on 04/16/2014 9:04:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 04/16/2014 9:08:50 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

25 posted on 04/20/2014 5:28:58 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: DemforBush

Another one: the photographic film industry needed gelatin for the products...becoming the biggest consumer of animal bones leftover from meat processing.


26 posted on 04/20/2014 5:56:04 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: smokingfrog

27 posted on 04/20/2014 6:22:27 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Gasshog

Just think of the danger these cows have been in all these years before the Feds found out about the grain deal. Shocking!!


28 posted on 04/20/2014 6:25:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Gasshog

Unless those cows are grazing on Federal land, then shoot and kill them.


29 posted on 04/20/2014 7:45:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: smokingfrog

OK, no problem. It’s not hazmat, so the brewers can certainly set it out where the garbage is, to throw it away. And it’s established law that once you throw something away, you no longer have any legal claim to it or control over it. That’s why the cops can dig through your trash even without a warrant. So if the farmers happen to come by the day before trash day and pick up some “trash” the brewers left outside, you can’t really do anything to the brewers....so......


30 posted on 04/20/2014 9:52:35 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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