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Obama warns Russia in tense call with Putin over Ukraine
Yahoo! News ^ | 4/14/14 | Jeff Mason and Arshad Mohammed - Reuters

Posted on 04/14/2014 9:29:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama told Russian President Vladimir Putin in a tense phone call on Monday that Moscow would face further costs for its actions in Ukraine and should use its influence to get separatists in the country to stand down.

Armed pro-Russian separatists seized more buildings in eastern Ukraine earlier in the day, expanding their control after the government failed to follow through on a threatened military crackdown.

In a call that the White House said Moscow requested, Obama told Putin that those forces were threatening to undermine and destabilize the government in Kiev.

"The president emphasized that all irregular forces in the country need to lay down their arms, and he urged President Putin to use his influence with these armed, pro-Russian groups to convince them to depart the buildings they have seized," the White House said in a statement.

Obama said Russian troops needed to withdraw from Ukraine's border to defuse tensions and made a point of praising Kiev for its "remarkable restraint" and efforts to unify the country with elections, constitutional reform and proposals to decentralize power to local governments.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 04/14/2014 9:29:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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more ‘costs’ imminent.


2 posted on 04/14/2014 9:30:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

yeah? you and whose army, obama


3 posted on 04/14/2014 9:31:23 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NormsRevenge

Obama couldn’t warn the White House laundress to quit over-starching his Muslim prayer rug.


4 posted on 04/14/2014 9:34:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Obama warns Russia in tense call with Putin over Ukraine”

Putin warns USA in tense call with Obama over Bunkerville.


5 posted on 04/14/2014 9:36:24 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: NormsRevenge

Putin is not one to be deterred by warnings. More sanctions are coming his way? He doesn’t care.

The US and its friendly regime in Kiev cannot deter Russia. That’s all he needs to know.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 9:37:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge; All
OH! NO!
Another sternly written (limp-wristed w/cute little flowers :) letter.
Putin; Is so afraid!
..do i really need "/sarc"?

7 posted on 04/14/2014 9:37:59 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Marvin the Martian issues another stern warning to Bugs:
“Oooh, you’ve made me so angry!”


8 posted on 04/14/2014 9:38:55 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: NormsRevenge

The simple fact is that the American people will not support a war that sheds American blood and risks a nuclear disaster to define the borders of the Ukraine. Nor will the Germans send their troops into the Ukraine, fight Russians or impose serious sanctions that hurt the EU. Putin knows this better than anybody. Obama can whine, rant and complain and the MSM can portray him as Winston Churchill but Putin holds the trump cards.


9 posted on 04/14/2014 9:39:54 PM PDT by allendale
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To: NormsRevenge

“made a point of praising Kiev for its “remarkable restraint””

So, let me see if I have the spin straight....

The Obamunists destabilize Ukraine because they wanted to “get back” at Putin for the Syria Embarrassment.

The Director of the CIA goes to Ukraine and tells the U.S. hand-picked Coup government to fight (per Russian Media), and the only reliable Uke unit gets spanked doing so. That’s “remarkable restraint”?

That doesn’t work, and the Uke’s fail to follow through on the “absolute” deadline again. So now Obama tries to personally threaten Putin again?? His ego is writing checks americans have no desire to cash.

Whoever is advising Obama on this needs to be replaced, pronto. (Kerry?)


10 posted on 04/14/2014 9:41:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: NormsRevenge

“DON’T CALL MY BLUFF!” sayeth Barack Hussein Obama, peace be upon him.


11 posted on 04/14/2014 9:46:44 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: allendale
Like this?:



12 posted on 04/14/2014 9:47:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: allendale

“Obama can whine, rant and complain and the MSM can portray him as Winston Churchill but Putin holds the trump cards.”

Bottom line:
The Obama administration created this mess, and handed Putin an opportunity that he couldn’t pass up, on a silver platter.

Now that the strategy is unraveling, President Mom Jeans is getting more shrill, and is trying to prove to Putin how big his schlong is. Against a guy that embodies the “Russian Male”, be it propaganda or not.

The DC watchers in the Kremlin have just got to be shaking their heads in amazement at all of this.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 9:47:34 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: NormsRevenge

Vlad passed out from laughter after Obama threatened to send his BLM over there.


14 posted on 04/14/2014 9:48:31 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: tcrlaf

A Chicago Community Organizer is no match for a KGB Spy.


15 posted on 04/14/2014 9:51:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

MomJeans is such a worthless POS.


16 posted on 04/14/2014 9:53:05 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: skinkinthegrass

The Russians are laughing off the sanctions that the US Media breathlessly cheered, though they have publicly warned Russians overseas to be more careful.

They know Europe is too dependent on the two-way trade with Russia, to strengthen sanctions for anything short of a direct attack on a NATO ally, and that’s not going to happen.


17 posted on 04/14/2014 9:54:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: NormsRevenge

And Putin replied, “MOOOoooooOOOOOOOO!”


18 posted on 04/14/2014 9:58:01 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: bigbob

Both Washington and Kiev can’t stand up to Russia.

This is not the Cuban Missile Crisis where the Soviets had to back down. The Soviets understood Cuba was in America’s backyard.

Ukraine IS in Russia’s backyard and whatever the Americans can muster up in the way of protest will have no effect on what Moscow chooses to do next.

That should be obvious to any one who knows how events play out in that part of the world.


19 posted on 04/14/2014 9:58:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

More WH propaganda. Only Obama, Putin, and their close advisers know what was said and what was the tone of the conversation.


20 posted on 04/14/2014 10:04:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: NormsRevenge

I hope it wasn’t recorded for posterity. Our nation can only take so much humiliation in one decade.


21 posted on 04/14/2014 10:05:07 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: NormsRevenge

If Obama and Putin were on skype phones, where you can see who you’re speaking to he may have ended up asking Jay Carny: How do you say “Don’t roll your eyes at me! In Russian?


22 posted on 04/14/2014 10:05:08 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: NormsRevenge
How do you say "OOOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" in Russian?
23 posted on 04/14/2014 10:06:56 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: goldstategop; tcrlaf

I forgot, but I think one of you gentlemen when supporting Russian invasion of Crimea, said that invasion of East/South Ukraine by Russia would be unjustified.
(I could be mistaken, then, my apologies)


24 posted on 04/14/2014 10:12:41 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: NormsRevenge

Another opportunity approaches for B. Hussein Obama to have “his finest hour.”

Yes indeed! For over five long years, B. Hussein has been waiting for the perfect moment to demonstrate to the Liberals who voted for him in the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize White Guilt Contest, that he really was worthy of an award that he had done nothing to earn.

The time is now, as many, in ridicule, have said that Obama looks like an Ass when he leads from behind.

Now is the time to “Carpe’ the Diem” and shower his diplomatic brilliance over the pesky Ukraine incident for all the World to see.

BTW, if B. Hussein can pull this “his finest hour” off, the most surprised person will be his former self and alter-ego, Barry Soetoro.


25 posted on 04/14/2014 10:12:57 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Putin must have had a bad day. He called Obama for amusement. A little comedy relief is as good as a shot of vodka.


26 posted on 04/14/2014 10:17:17 PM PDT by formosa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

I did say with Crimea its a special case.

As for eastern Ukraine no one has proof of Russian involvement. As long they don’t formally cross the border, they can do what they want.

The Donbass is not pro-Russian. The way they see it in Moscow, its more advantageous keeping it a thorn in the West’s side.

They can claim to be the knight in shining armor that they would be robbed of in an invasion. While Russia won’t be stopped by sanctions, it figures it has no need to intervene. Ukraine is being kept weak and that’s good enough for Russia’s interests.


27 posted on 04/14/2014 10:23:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Or this.


28 posted on 04/14/2014 10:33:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Obama: Now look here Vlad, enough is enough, stay out of your neighbors’ business.
Putin: Who is this anyway? Is this President Obama?
Obama: Yes, yes Vlad this is the President of the United States.
Putin: Call me back later, sometime after January 2017. I prefer to speak to a real man, a real US leader, you know, someone I can respect.
Obama: ...but Vlad, I am he, I am your man.
Putin: No thanks Hussein, I prefer to wait.
Obama: But, Vlad, buddy? It was me who helped you. It was me who created the RESET doctrine. You know, SOFT POWER and all that...Vlad?
Putin: click*...bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Obama: Vlad? Vlad? Are you there?
29 posted on 04/14/2014 10:46:49 PM PDT by Netz
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To: ponygirl

Barry’s such an Urkel, if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, with his petulance and groveling and whinging. Holder too.
Someone should teach this foreigner our national anthem, epecially the last five words before Scotland takes them back for good.
Brave Sir Barack, agonizing months over nailing bin Ladin, whipped by women until he finally pulled the trigger. From a golf cart probably. What a puss.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 10:52:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: UCANSEE2

hahahaha

LOL!:-)


31 posted on 04/14/2014 11:23:47 PM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s still better than our previous president having phone sex with Putin.


32 posted on 04/14/2014 11:47:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: NormsRevenge

It would not surprise me at all if the White House and the MSM employees start mentioning racism.


33 posted on 04/14/2014 11:57:58 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: allendale
The simple fact is that the American people will not support a war that sheds American blood and risks a nuclear disaster to define the borders of the Ukraine.

What is more important: what is right or what gets support? Does nuclear fire burn hotter than Hellfire, which you will surely experience by supporting Putin?
34 posted on 04/15/2014 12:00:54 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Feel free to check my past posts.

I said when the coup went down, and Russia moved to secure Crimea, that the next logical step would be the Donetsk Basin, because they wouldn’t take kindly to the anti-Russian radicals now in charge. It’s where the resources and the Industry are that.

I also thought that Melitopol would be the key to any later moves, as it sits astride the road and rail to Crimea, but as far as I know, there hasn’t been any unrest reported there.

It was in a post to Jim Robinson, in fact.

You keep making the same mistake, confusing an honest appraisal of the facts as known, as “supporting Putin”.

I spent a good portion of my military career “analyzing” the Soviets, so all of this has a particular interest to me.


35 posted on 04/15/2014 12:13:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: NormsRevenge

36 posted on 04/15/2014 1:54:01 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m glad that’s settled. I’ll bet Putin is trembling in his boots.


37 posted on 04/15/2014 2:24:45 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Hostage

Everything is tense for Obama since Reggie left.


38 posted on 04/15/2014 2:38:11 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: NormsRevenge

39 posted on 04/15/2014 2:48:43 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: goldstategop
The more things change . . .

Woodrow Wilson redux

40 posted on 04/15/2014 3:43:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: NormsRevenge

What did Obama do? Threaten to hit Putin with his purse?


41 posted on 04/15/2014 4:23:42 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: NormsRevenge
Here's the one I was looking for:


42 posted on 04/15/2014 7:24:17 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: tcrlaf
You keep making the same mistake, confusing an honest appraisal of the facts as known, as “supporting Putin”

Honest appraisals it ain't, if you're referring to the same Kremlin sourses (RT, RIA, Itar-Tass). How about adding Ukrainian KyivPost or EuromaidanPR to expand your horizons.

This was your beauty from yesterday:
The coup government, on the other hand, can only rely on a few forces in the western part of the country, and their version of the skinheads. They can’t project influence much beyond Kiev. Ukraine is even more lawless now, than it was before, which isn’t helping. Kiev is losing control over events, badly.

This is not accurate either. Ukraine's living through very hard times but it's nowhere near the hopelessness you present here. More than a week ago when the Russians started storming the administrative buildings, three regional centers were taken, Kharkiv, Donetsk and Luhansk. Kharkiv was taken back beautifully with no casualties. (Because it was so successful, there were rumours those were Polish or American special forces that were used). This is a temporary reprieve and more trouble is expected for Kharkiv though.

Another key in the East is Dnipropetrovsk which stands firmly Ukrainian with Kolomoyskyi leading the way. Russians tried their stunts in Zaporizhia and Mykolayiv but failed miserably. In Zaporizhia, they were cordoned off by the bigger Ukrainian crowd and then humiliated; in Mykolayiv, they were chased out of town. Kherson, bordering Crimea, was quieter than quiet. There were some minor disturbances in Odesa.

So, let's pray it will only improve in these Eastern/Southern Ukrainian cities, and Donbas is soon cleared of the Russian troops.

I spent a good portion of my military career “analyzing” the Soviets, so all of this has a particular interest to me.

How about learning Russian/Ukrainian and read the press in the original language? Rosetta Stone, anyone? )))

43 posted on 04/15/2014 5:31:19 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: goldstategop
As for eastern Ukraine no one has proof of Russian involvement. As long they don’t formally cross the border, they can do what they want.

Citizens of the RF (civilian "protesters" and troops) are in Donbas. Ukrainian SBU was getting tons of them. What additional proof of Russian involvement can there be? For Putin to formally admit it? He won't. If you recall, he didn't admit to Russian troops taking over Crimea.

44 posted on 04/15/2014 5:37:33 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa; tcrlaf

All the sources you gave are completely opposite of one another....so of course if either side is all one reads you’ll only see it form whatever source you favor or want to believe.

Even the Main Street Media is saying there’s a very real anti-Russian push by most American media.

It’s rare I go to Kiev or Euromaiden.....they are equally as bad as RT etc. At most you’ll know something’s going on but then you have to go find those on the ground to get the actual happening... Besides there are far too many other sources out there who are actually on the ground reporting rather to take news from them.

It’s now known our media’s been using old photos and videos of the military buildup on Russia’s borders....in addition journalist who traveled over 1000 miles up and down the border who said other than the normal bases and movements they could not see what was being reported....But of course Maiden and Kiev have been doing their share of false reporting as well.

Facts are just what they are, regardless of which side one wants to believe...better in this situation in Ukraine to understand this whole thing is not new to Ukraine....and whoever sits at the helm is going to play all sides.....it’s the nature of the Ukrainian beast...you cannot change their violent culture bent overnight.


45 posted on 04/15/2014 5:46:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Well would you sit still if people are getting shot and having violent protests on your border?...No country would stand for that...but in this case Ukraine’s not been helpful in calming their own waters.

Putin doesn't have to admit anything, and neither does the EU or US.....it's a war now of many moving parts, it doesn't have to be called one to make it so. My gosh you have people dying, fires, violence, military of ‘all kinds’ running round about.

Further You have people doing back door negotiating with numerous city folk...and this by who? Ukraine and those within the cities of dispute...and this with the USA guiding the Kiev Gov.

Imo all the nation Leaders are assisting Ukrainians to handle this because Ukraine certainly can't do this alone....their history reveals this. In the end it will not be Ukraine who determines this outcome....they lost that the minute they deposed an elected Pres. by violent force.

Only when they have an election will this be determined as Ukraine might desire and it frankly doesn't look like they'll be having any May election at the rate they are going....this would be to who;s advantage should they be delayed?....of course those currently sitting in the seat of power.

46 posted on 04/15/2014 5:59:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
But of course Maiden and Kiev have been doing their share of false reporting as well.

Nah, you can't say both are equally bad, because what Russian media is doing is miles ahead of Ukraine's. RT (geared towards the west) fake story of 670,000 Ukrainian refugees was bad enough, but for the domestic Russian audiences, there's some heavy duty brainwashing. This example made the rounds recently.

Translated: On the Russian NTV channel, they had a story about confessions of a German citizen, who traveled to Ukraine to support the Pravyi Sector. He donated 500,000 euros to their goal to injure as many pro-Russian supporters as they could.

SAME FREAKING guy, on the Russia 1 channel, was introduced as one of the peaceful protesters who came out to protest the new Ukrainian government, only to be attacked by Pravyi Sector.

Same guy, on NTS Sevastopol channel was a native of Kherson, a surgeon, who came out against the neo-nazis and donated his own money to the anti-maidan cause.

47 posted on 04/15/2014 6:49:34 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: caww
Well would you sit still if people are getting shot and having violent protests on your border

If I was an opportunist, who wanted to destabilize the country further for some land grab, I'd do what Putin is doing.

48 posted on 04/15/2014 7:13:10 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa
So would you if you were sitting in positions of power and wanted to keep a country destabilized while you consolidated that power....which the leadership now in Kiev would very much like to see sustained in full or in part.

I don't think there will be an election in May...delaying it because of the country's unrest would certainly give more time to bring in the rest of the crew....keeping in mind the Pres. has already said they are NOT going to go with Nato or further with the Eu, rather remain Independent....which was not the plan when they took over.

Time will tell but there's no reason to trust for a moment the likes of what sits in Kiev's Government at this point....who I believe have aspirations for Ukraine other than what the US or Russia might like.

49 posted on 04/16/2014 12:08:43 AM PDT by caww
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Well what you just discribed is Russia’s inability to hide their propaganda well....on the other hand.... we have a controlled media that has fine tuned how they move the masses so that even when what they are doing is wrong appears right.

Further, Ukraine is not running their media....there are numerous “assistants” shipped in and have been there helping Maiden for a long while as well.

I see all sorts of photos and videos, and more on a constant now. Using old protests and material that can assist “make the story”.

As for the Russian citizens...well they do like Putin pretty much...he’s polling well...but they are not for war as we see them take to the streets recently.

In a propaganda war...and this is one...ALL have both feet in the game. Some more skilled then others so we get to call outthe doofus errors.


50 posted on 04/16/2014 12:19:04 AM PDT by caww
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