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Sheriff on strategy to put women at front lines (Bundy's considered using women as shields)
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Posted on 04/14/2014 11:31:15 PM PDT by chessplayer

Retired sheriff Richard Mack says he had a plan to put women at front lines if Feds fired so world would see.

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KEYWORDS: agitprop; blm; bundy
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They actually considered it. Know what? Screw the Bundys.
1 posted on 04/14/2014 11:31:15 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

http://www.sheriffmack.com/index.php/hardball


2 posted on 04/14/2014 11:32:34 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Rustler Reid and his minions live in your head.


3 posted on 04/14/2014 11:35:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: chessplayer

Ah! You bought the very first smear propaganda!

I would have hoped you would hold out for the accusations of child molesting, or gun running, or manufacturing explosives, or being a racist, or a religious extremist....


4 posted on 04/14/2014 11:38:23 PM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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To: chessplayer
Who is the Sheriff of Clark County?

Don't know? Then you are a B0z0.

5 posted on 04/14/2014 11:40:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: chessplayer

I watched a youtube vid of the big confrontation and it seemed to be almost all males at the front.

Anyone that would use women as a shield could use a good ass kickin.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 11:40:17 PM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: chessplayer; Admin Moderator

I don’t know where you come from, but you need to be zotted.


7 posted on 04/14/2014 11:41:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: chessplayer

Baloney, Sheriff Mack was only one man and maybe he had a dozen followers. There were hundreds of people there and all could think for themselves. I was there and no one had a death wish. I’ll tell you this that the women there were Tigers and would have fought tooth and nail. They would have been upfront because many were already in front exercising their free will.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 11:46:07 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: chessplayer

What kind of people would ever even consider doing this?


9 posted on 04/14/2014 11:54:49 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: Bullish

What kind of people would ever even consider doing this?


Cowards.


11 posted on 04/14/2014 11:56:17 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Paladin2

For some historical perspective, let us remember that Dr. Martin Luther King sent children as young as six years old en masse into the face of Bull Connor’s water cannon and dogs at Birmingham in 1963.

One of those children involved was his niece, Alveda King.

Connor’s forces were diverted by the children while the adults were able to breach the police lines and reach protest areas downtown.

It was the turning point of the Civil Rights Movement.

It was controversial at the time with a lot of anger from white and black media, but it happened just the same.


12 posted on 04/14/2014 11:59:01 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: chessplayer
Retired sheriff Richard Mack says he had a plan to put women at front lines if Feds fired so world would see.

The federales burnt children alive at Waco and made an assassination head shot against Vicki Weaver while she was holding a baby at Ruby Ridge. Don't pretend that they slow down for a second for women or children. Only put the women in the front line if they are the best shots for returning fire.

13 posted on 04/15/2014 12:23:16 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: chessplayer; Admin Moderator

You need to cool it.


14 posted on 04/15/2014 12:28:35 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: chessplayer

Sheriff Mack seldom errs, he did this time. But this doesn’t make the BLM effort any less onerous. I’m still itching for a fight with Reid’s army of federales. This heavy-handed Nazi crap has to stop.


15 posted on 04/15/2014 1:00:22 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia
Women on the front line are fine while there are shouting matches going on. If one of the others takes a swing, the brutality cry can go out.

It has been done by notable people from the leftists, the hippies, and the Civil Rights bunch.

But if serious physical confrontations are anticipated, especially gunplay, only the left would put women in harm's way unless they decided to be there. Many ranch/farm women I know would not back down from a scrap.

The Norks and Chinese marched women and children ahead of their troops as human shields, cowboys don't, and this sounds like a smear to make those who rose to the Bundys defense out to be cowards.

Expect attacks from all directions, and especially on the web. If they can get traction with some nonsense, they will flog it.

16 posted on 04/15/2014 1:23:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: chessplayer
Screw you, agitprop. Why haven't you taken your little sideshow to DU by now?

There were plenty of women there of their own free will anyway.

17 posted on 04/15/2014 1:43:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: chessplayer
They actually considered it. Know what? Screw the Bundys.

I understand your disgust with the idea of using women for shields. But it is far from fair to hold the Bundys responsible for everything the hundreds of people who went there said or did.

18 posted on 04/15/2014 1:56:54 AM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: chessplayer; All

Change agent alert....weasel in the building!


19 posted on 04/15/2014 2:08:42 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: chessplayer

You need to remove your add on to the title.


20 posted on 04/15/2014 2:10:40 AM PDT by dforest
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“You need to remove your add on to the title.”

The administrators should do that or pull the thread.


21 posted on 04/15/2014 2:17:33 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: chessplayer

Having seen the videos of the women there, I doubt anyone could “put” them anywhere.


22 posted on 04/15/2014 2:30:01 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: null and void

I do not think this is propaganda smear. I do not know who it was, but on FOX News this weekend, they interviewed some guy who said they were considering putting women and children in front so that when they got shot, the world would see. This is not what the left is saying - someone who was there was saying this. And you may think it is a smear job, but that is the action of a coward.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 3:25:39 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

The points of whether women should be put in a dangerous situation, and for what reasons have long been the subject of debate. However, the title to this thread implies that this ‘action plan’ by a retired Sheriff who was there is and was sanctioned by Bundy. I have seen no evidence that supports this except the interview with this retired Sheriff using a generic “we”.

There were hundreds of people there, all in general support of Bundy and his tiff with the BLM. However, it is possible (likely even) that he doesn’t subscribe to the views of everyone there.


24 posted on 04/15/2014 4:08:03 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: chessplayer

Odds are there is now a disinformation campaign underway so that the Bundy’s lose support and Reid can take the ranch.


25 posted on 04/15/2014 4:20:21 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: chessplayer

Your by-line is vicious, unsupported agitprop.


26 posted on 04/15/2014 4:23:05 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Muslims and leftists put women and children in harms way.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 4:26:08 AM PDT by Old Yeller (In Latin, the word sinister means left. Which is appropriate for left-wingers.)
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To: Old Yeller

Texan women put themselves in harm’s way when under attack, and I expect Nevada women do, too.


28 posted on 04/15/2014 4:42:25 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: chessplayer

Probably should get some children with their pets too. That would stop the FBI swat team. For the left political correctness trumps bullets...might work for us.


29 posted on 04/15/2014 4:57:53 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: chessplayer; All
I don't understand why people are so upset with you posting what Richard Mack said.

There didn't seem to be a problem with posting Richard Mack's statements when he was saying a SWAT raid was being planned on the Bundy's ranch.

Sheriff: Feds strategize for 'raid' on ranch [Sheriff Mack]

Exclusive: Sources Inside The BLM and Las Vegas Metro Say Feds Are Planning A Raid On Bundy Home

Bundy Ranch: Sheriff Mack Confirms SWAT Raid Imminent

I think Mack's comments speak poorly of some of the people supporting the Bundy family, but not necessarily the Bundys. Why? Because I don't believe a word Mack says unless it's verified by a reliable and independent third-party.

30 posted on 04/15/2014 5:11:30 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: chessplayer; All
I don't understand why people are so upset with you posting what Richard Mack said.

There didn't seem to be a problem with posting Richard Mack's statements when he was saying a SWAT raid was being planned on the Bundy's ranch.

Sheriff: Feds strategize for 'raid' on ranch [Sheriff Mack]

Exclusive: Sources Inside The BLM and Las Vegas Metro Say Feds Are Planning A Raid On Bundy Home

Bundy Ranch: Sheriff Mack Confirms SWAT Raid Imminent

I think Mack's comments speak poorly of some of the people supporting the Bundy family, but not necessarily the Bundys. Why? Because I don't believe a word Mack says unless it's verified by a reliable and independent third-party.

31 posted on 04/15/2014 5:11:31 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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What time stamp in the HARDBALL interview does mack make these alleged statements?
32 posted on 04/15/2014 5:19:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: chessplayer

They who? I am not impressed with this former sheriff, seems to me he is only stirring the pot to keep himself attention. I may be wrong but I am guessing he has a book to sell and or wants to be a consultant for FOX news. At this point I don’t believe a word he says, some say he really knows his stuff but he has no ranching background that I am aware of nor is he from Nevada. He cannot possibly be an expert at any of this. I am also skeptical that he has so many contacts with the feds that are keeping him in the loop on this.

I have been part of the ranching community since birth and would bet if this was ever considered by Bundys even for a moment it was suggested by the women themselves. Ranch women are not like city women, not at all.


33 posted on 04/15/2014 5:39:00 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Scoutmaster

Doesnt matter it doesnt support the narrative of knee jerk reactionaries....as a famous quote once muttered...nothing to see here.


34 posted on 04/15/2014 5:40:54 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Bullish

Liberals do it all the time in their protests,
in order to make those they are protesting against look even more thuggy.

Probably not necessary in the case of American resistance to fedgov thuggery, though. They get “over-thuggy” anyway.


35 posted on 04/15/2014 5:44:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Scoutmaster; chessplayer

They don’t necessarily have a problem with what Richard Mack said, they have a problem with Chessplayer stating that the “Bundy’s considered using women as shields”.

This statement was from Richard Mack, NOT the Bundy’s, so to ascribe this plan to the Bundy’s is LESS than honest!

No one is questioning whether or not it was stated, only that it was the Bundy’s who were considering it or planning it!


36 posted on 04/15/2014 5:46:22 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: mad_as_he$$; chessplayer
There is no time stamp in the Hardball interview, but it doesn't matter anyway. I watched the video at the link, to see what Mack had to say. He said nothing about the Bundy ranch situation.

He talked about OSHA, 9/11 trutherism, whether Reagan acted constitutionally, and so on, but never mentioned the Bundy ranch situation.

37 posted on 04/15/2014 5:57:25 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: mad_as_he$$; chessplayer
There is no time stamp in the Hardball interview, but it doesn't matter anyway. I watched the video at the link, to see what Mack had to say. He said nothing about the Bundy ranch situation.

He talked about OSHA, 9/11 trutherism, whether Reagan acted constitutionally, and so on, but never mentioned the Bundy ranch situation.

38 posted on 04/15/2014 5:57:25 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: ExTxMarine

Understood. Agreed.


39 posted on 04/15/2014 5:57:58 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: chessplayer

I’d like to see enough of Mack’s statement to understand the context, rather than that snippet which starts mid-sentence.

Let’s pretend for a moment that Bundy was the one who considered putting women up front, as you have accused. What does that mean? That Reid’s Rustlers have the right to gun them down?

I don’t care about Bundy. I don’t even know him. I don’t care if he’s a nice man, or evil incarnate.

This isn’t about him. It’s about us.


40 posted on 04/15/2014 6:16:20 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee please come home we miss you! ~ Þ)
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To: Scoutmaster
Thanks for saving me having to listen to Matthews for even a minute.

Figured this was just the first smear.

41 posted on 04/15/2014 6:18:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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I agree. People that aren't around ranch women don't get it. Plus the Bundy’s are Mormon. Even old bandits wouldn't mess with Mormon ranch women.
42 posted on 04/15/2014 6:25:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: chessplayer; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

Are you ready to ask the Mods to delete this lie?


43 posted on 04/15/2014 6:26:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: chessplayer

As long as the women volunteer, I think it’s a good strategy. Make them think even harder about what they are about to do.


44 posted on 04/15/2014 6:31:50 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: Gaffer
That sounds acceptable. However, anyone who puts themselves out there as a spokesperson - especially in a situation such as this - needs to be extremely careful as to what they say and/or do. The media - all media, including FNC - will twist the words around to make the Bundy supporters look bad.

Example - also during the weekend - on Sunday - FNC calls the supporters allegded patriots. Already the MSM propaganda starts. So people need to be careful as to what they say.

That is all I am saying.

45 posted on 04/15/2014 7:52:07 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

I understand that. Anyone with any sense should understand that the news media is not in the business of reporting actual unbiased ‘news’. They are ALL in the business of ideology and ‘business’...

The most competent and successful ones choose ‘business’ over ideology (fox) versus rabid ideology for ideology’s sake (msnbc).


46 posted on 04/15/2014 7:58:03 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: chessplayer

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The first is getting involved in a land war in Asia. This one is almost as bad: accepting Leftist propaganda as truth.


47 posted on 04/15/2014 8:29:17 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: 7thson
OK, so Fox interviews "some guy" and you assume "some guy" speaks for Bundy, and use what "some guy" says he wanted to do to tar and feather Bundy.

Got it.

Do you know the definition of agent provocateur?

48 posted on 04/15/2014 9:08:53 AM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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To: chessplayer

You can show where Bundy says he was considering this idea?

Looks like it was the ex Sheriff came up with it.

He probably suggested and Bundy said no.

But let’s go all Alinsky on Bundy huh?

As on another thread it was shown quite well that if the gov shot dozens of American Citizens it would be revolution, no need to put the women out front.


49 posted on 04/15/2014 9:15:21 AM PDT by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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To: null and void
I apologize for giving the wrong impression. I know the guy does not speak for Bundy. But when the media puts someone like that on - and nobody refutes him - most people think this is the MO. Bundy needs to have a spokesperson. And people need to be careful what they say and to who they say it to. The police and the media are not friends.

But you know that.8-)

50 posted on 04/15/2014 9:56:36 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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