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Dems Play Politics With Bogus 77-cent Differential in Male-Female Pay
Townhall.com ^ | April 15, 2014 | Michael Barone

Posted on 04/15/2014 4:22:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

An economist serving on a second-term president's Council of Economic Advisers might expect to weigh in on fundamental issues, restructuring the tax system or making entitlement programs sustainable over the long term. Barack Obama once talked of addressing such issues, and Republican leaders such as House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp are doing so.

But that's not what University of Michigan economist and CEA member Betsey Stevenson finds herself doing. Instead, she is defending the use of misleading statistics in support of legislation addressing a minor problem.

The legislation is Obama's latest pay equity measure, which failed to pass in the Senate last week. The misleading statistic is 77 cents, cited repeatedly by Obama as the amount women earn for every dollar earned by men.

When challenged on this by MSNBC's Irin Cannon, Stevenson admitted that the 77 cents figure is misleading. "If I said that 77 cents was equal pay for equal work, then I completely misspoke," she admitted.

"There are a lot of things that go into that 77 cents figure," she went on. "There are a lot of things that contribute, and no one's trying to say that it's all about discrimination, but I don't think there's a better figure."

Of course some people are trying to say that "it's all about discrimination"--starting with Stevenson's boss, President Obama, and including the political ad-makers preparing to cut 30-second spots accusing Republicans of a "war on women."

So Stevenson is fibbing about that. And when she says, "there are a lot of things that contribute" to male-female earnings disparities, she is indicating that she understands the weakness of using the 77 cents number.

This isn't controversial stuff. As my American Enterprise Institute colleague Christina Hoff Sommers writes in the Daily Beast, the 77 cents "does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week."

Those factors are acknowledged in a 2012 Bureau of Labor Statistics report cited by AEI scholars Mark Perry and Andrew Biggs in the Wall Street Journal. It shows that (a) men tend to work longer hours than women, (b) men tend to take riskier jobs with premium pay and (c) female college graduates tend to specialize in lower-paid fields than male college graduates.

As a result, the BLS concludes, women who worked 40-hour weeks earned 88 percent of what similar men did. Single women who never married earned 96 percent of men's earnings.

Stevenson concedes that not all the differential comes from discrimination or sexism. "Some of women's choices come because they are disproportionately balancing the needs of work and family," she told MSNBC.

By "disproportionately," she presumably means that more women than men choose to stay home to care for children. "Which of these choices should we consider legitimate choices," she asks, "and which of them should we consider things that we have a societal obligation to try to mitigate?"

This raises the specter of government bureaucrats intervening in marital decision-making, pushing more husbands to stay home with the kids. Even the Obama administration stops short of that.

The Democrats' problem is that sex discrimination by employers was outlawed by the Equal Pay Act signed by John Kennedy in 1963 -- 51 years ago. To make "the war on women" an issue and rally single women to the polls, the Obama Democrats have had to concoct new legislation putting new burdens on small employers and ginning up business, as the 2009 Lilly Ledbetter Act's extended statute of limitations did, for their trial lawyer contributors.

Such legislation attacks a problem very largely solved. The male-female pay differential for those working at similar levels has been reduced nearly, but not quite, to the vanishing point. Remaining differences result almost entirely from personal choices by women and men.

Those choices shifted sharply 40 years ago but haven't changed much lately. The percentage of mothers seeing full-time work as an ideal, Pew Research Center reports, was 30 percent in 1997 and 32 percent in 2012.

By any realistic standard the equal pay problem is minor, certainly in comparison to the growth-stifling effects of the current tax code and the unsustainable trajectory of current entitlement programs.

But this president, unlike his two predecessors, has chosen not to address such major problems in his second term. And so Betsey Stevenson has to defend the indefensible 77 cents statistic.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: gendergap; women

1 posted on 04/15/2014 4:22:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
For example: Not every woman wants a degree in engineering and the diligence that goes with that career....particularly because it's usually a teamwork profession.

The majority prefer work that is loose and not teamwork. I see it over and over and it's been pretty much that way since our beginnings....except perhaps, during WWII.

2 posted on 04/15/2014 4:29:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

No conscience at all. Lie, cheat, steal........by any means necessary. That’s why Benghazi isn’t important to the Dems and Big Media (but I am being redundant). It was sooooo much more important for Obama to lie about Al Qaeda being on the run in his stump speech than it was to tell the American people the truth. It was sooooo much more important for Obama to have control for four more years than it was to honor the 4 murdered Americans with the truth. It was sooooo much more important to continue the destruction of America than it was to bother trying to hold accountable those who carried out the terrorism and those who still cover it up. How far this once great country has fallen. I weep for what was and what will be.


3 posted on 04/15/2014 4:35:21 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Kaslin

Forget the Regime’s bogus statistics and think about it logically. If a business owner could save a whopping 23% on labor by hiring only women, he (or, often, she) would do so. Every time.


4 posted on 04/15/2014 4:40:22 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (lib-pocrisy: requiring photo ID at a march protesting photo IDs for voters.)
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To: Sacajaweau

True indeed. Good grief, isn’t health insurance, even under Obamacare, more expensive for women? Or will men be paying for maternity/childbirth coverage?


5 posted on 04/15/2014 4:41:55 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Kaslin

It works good for Democrats though.

Republicans get asked about it in interviews and they are scared to say that its not discrimination, so usually they respond ‘Yes it is a problem but...’


6 posted on 04/15/2014 4:43:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Kaslin

According to Terri Land in Michigan, Gary Peters pays 68 cents to women per dollar paid to men.


7 posted on 04/15/2014 4:44:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin
Rush made an excellent point yesterday! He referenced the article about Jay Carney and his wife (yes, the one with the commie posters). Rush pointed out that the wife, Clair Shipman, had her own burgeoning career, before the kids came along. Now, Jay works full time and she stays home with the children, working occasionally.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WOMEN'S PAY, ON AVERAGE, IS LESS THAN MEN'S PAY. More men work full time and at the harder, less flexible jobs. Jay and Clair's real life completely contradicts the argument from the WH about the wage gap.

8 posted on 04/15/2014 4:49:40 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (I think I'm a Republican, but (watching our representatives) I can't quite figure out what that is!)
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To: sickoflibs
Not all are backing down.

Terri Lynn Land fires back on issue of equal pay for women

She's absolutely correct that women often make choices in favor of flexibility over pay and points to Jay Carney's wife as an example.
9 posted on 04/15/2014 4:51:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

See post 9.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 4:52:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

Bottom line: Obama has been POTUS for 6 years. And Dems owned everything for 2 full years. Nothing passed or even proposed to right this (supposed) wrong.


11 posted on 04/15/2014 4:57:45 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: Kaslin

“Dems Play Politics With Bogus 77-cent Differential in Male-Female Pay”

There has to be a better way to state that headline, although no one at the source is complaining, either.

Seems like it should be a 23-cent differential, if women are (falsely) alleged to earn 77 cents for every dollar that a man does.


12 posted on 04/15/2014 5:12:27 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Sacajaweau
For example: Not every woman wants a degree in engineering and the diligence that goes with that career....

No, they just want the government to force somebody to pay them the same amount as a man who did.


13 posted on 04/15/2014 5:16:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sickoflibs
Republicans get asked about it in interviews and they are scared to say that its not discrimination, so usually they respond ‘Yes it is a problem but...’

Ding! Ding! Ding!
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

And THIS is the demonstrable problem of the Republican party! They don't want to be honest and have a complete debate, instead, they are trying to argue in the sound-bite era! The fact is, BS, lies and contrite talking points will ALWAYS sound better (because they are easier for a busy person to hear, take in and then repeat). But, the Republicans MUST start explaining things to the American people, like Reagan did, or they will continue to lose every major election!

The problem is NOT the message! Conservatism is ALWAYS the answer in fiscal and social matters - period! But, conservatism requires an explanation that is as bold as the problem! If your foundation has shifted and your house falling down, you don't stand outside arguing with the Democrats about what paint color will make it "look better"!

YOU NEED TO FIX THE DAMN FOUNDATION!
14 posted on 04/15/2014 5:22:21 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Kaslin

I woke up this morning to more talk of pay inequality... *sigh* seriously... could they be more obvious that they are laying the groundwork for a Hillary run?

Same strategy as Obama. You MUST elect Hillary! Anything else makes you a SEXIST! Any critisim of her.. is because you are SEXIST! Come on youth... make history... vote for the First woman president!

*sigh*


15 posted on 04/15/2014 5:25:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

This stupid bogus issue is the cover story on the latest issue of my local business times publication.

Yet another reason I openly refer to it as the Pittsburgh Communist Business Times. Stuff like that, and endless interviews with CEOs and alleged “entrepreneurs” all whining that the government is not doing enough for them.


16 posted on 04/15/2014 5:30:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
Shipman and Carney married in '98.

Their kids go to Sidwell.

You can't compare these folks to normal working hubby and wife. They are political "boot lickers".

17 posted on 04/15/2014 5:46:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin
Dems Play Politics With Bogus 77-cent Differential in Male-Female Pay

EVERYTHING!
18 posted on 04/15/2014 6:06:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ExTxMarine; GOPsterinMA; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale
RE :”The problem is NOT the message! Conservatism is ALWAYS the answer in fiscal and social matters - period! But, conservatism requires an explanation that is as bold as the problem! “

Many Republicans take positions that they don't act comfortable explaining, and as they dodge questions about them it allows Dems to pounce and assign them the GOP (evil) motives, as they do.

On the other side Dems always seem prepared with multiple talking points and multiple studies for their positions to show that they are right.

19 posted on 04/15/2014 6:13:13 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs; Bender2; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

Exactly!

Supposedly, the New England Patriots require their players/staff/etc. to take public relations/public speaking courses so they DON’T commit verbal f***ups.

I suggested the same thing for ALL GOP candidates (local level all the way to POTUS) a few years ago. I had a knuckledragger try to argue with me that that wasn’t necessary. Ok. Did I mention that said knuckledragger’s state switched from GOP to RAT the last few years? A big reason why was that the GOPs running from that state were mostly idiots.

Being able to handle the media is either priority 1 or 1A for any politician. If that’s not understood, just go wait for “Old Country Buffet” to open...


20 posted on 04/15/2014 6:24:40 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Kaslin

If there was an actual benefit to hiring women for the same job, men would be unemployed.


21 posted on 04/15/2014 7:23:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Kaslin

Barone, I would have expected better of you with that title!!! The ‘differential’ is 23 cents, based on what Obama is spouting, but I don’t believe that is even true. Obama isn’t counting all the stock options & ‘benefits’ that women also get.


22 posted on 04/15/2014 9:40:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Mach9

Early on with Obamacare, an elderly couple was complaining that their coverage included childbirth, birth control, and paternity costs.

One was 80, the other 85.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 9:41:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: cripplecreek

A uterus can interrupt your career path & your CONTINUITY on the job.


24 posted on 04/15/2014 9:43:22 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Does this woman- Hillary- really think she is Presidential material?

At the appearance where a shoe was thrown at her, she was dressed like she was the sister of the North Korean Leader!!!

What is with her wardrobe??? Who is advising her???/

Looks like she had a bit of a Nip-Tuck here & thee, but she looks like a Female Mao!.


25 posted on 04/15/2014 9:46:12 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Kaslin
Dems Play Politics With Bogus 77-cent Differential in Male-Female Pay

Well duh. And Republicans play politics with meaningless votes in the House to repeal Obamacare. Everything both sides do is done with a view towards the November elections.

26 posted on 04/15/2014 9:50:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ridesthemiles

“Ridiculous” just doesn’t cover it any more.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 10:23:15 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs
Being able to handle the media is either priority 1 or 1A for any politician. If that’s not understood, just go wait for “Old Country Buffet” to open...

That bares repeating. GW Bush for example should have manged an Old Country Buffet, instead of the country.

28 posted on 04/15/2014 6:14:56 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; sickoflibs

Yes! But he was better than the manbearpigs he ran against.

Good God if either of them had won...


29 posted on 04/15/2014 6:31:25 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

See post 87

I voted for Bush, McCain, and Romney. I won’t refrain from insulting them though!


30 posted on 04/15/2014 6:34:42 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

As did I. Oh, I break all their balls too.


31 posted on 04/15/2014 6:37:42 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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