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Cliven Bundy's Cattle Battle: Harry Reid, China and Agenda 21
investors.com ^ | 4/14/2014 | IBD Editorial

Posted on 04/15/2014 6:44:03 AM PDT by rktman

Land Management: A Chinese solar farm that fries birds is OK, as is redrawing tortoise habitat boundaries to benefit political donors. But an American rancher grazing his cattle brings feds with sniper rifles.

It appears Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has, at least temporarily, wonhis "range war" with the paramilitary wing of the Bureau of Land Management. Fearing another Waco, BLM has announced it will no longer enforce a court order and stop stealing Bundy's cows, called "trespass cattle" by the feds, accused of grazing free on part of the 84% of Nevada that is federal property.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2a; agenda21; banglist; blm; bundy; bundyranch; cattlebattle; china; chinecities; clivenbundy; commerce; cows; dingyharry; harryteid; kornze; nevada; ngos; reid; roryreid; soros
I have no idea of what all the details are and I'm pretty sure they go a lot deeper than a lot of us know. I also don't know if the lsm was covering it very much but if they were, that may have been the impetus for the feds backing off. For now. We all know that they won't allow anyone to embarrass them for a very long stretch and you can bet there are deeper darker plans in work. Too bad the feds don't spend as much time chasing down human trespassers as they did for trespassing cows. The ever affable hairy reid-iculous says it ain't over and I'm thinkin' he isn't lying in this instance.
1 posted on 04/15/2014 6:44:03 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

There is also a big play by the Center for Biological Diversity ( and yes that is one of those nasty Soros backed ‘ngo’ groups) that keeps threatening to sue BLM in court ‘if they don’t (fill in the blank as to action)’. They have decried the BLM for not taking all of Bundy’s cattle and have called Cliven and family lawbreakers and other nasty names.

To me the big take away from all of this was that peaceful Americans (not the stone throwing anarchist type but actually peaceful) walking towards government agents and refusing to stop as ordered were able to make the feds stand down. This says that no matter what one may think there are still a lot of people who will not fire on their fellow citizens


2 posted on 04/15/2014 6:49:01 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: rktman

“84% of Nevada that is federal property”

There are some constitutional experts who question if that is legal.

This is the crux of Bundy’s argument, and I think he is correct in his reasoning.

This must be exposed and has the potential to be a bigger Fed Scandal than the Tea Pot Dome Scandal.

We are talking selling nation treasure to foreign powers for benefit of Politicians.


3 posted on 04/15/2014 6:52:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: rktman

Chinese hit men teams are probably on their way to do a “Breitbart” on Bundy and family.

And then there will be a mysterious sever rash of upset stomachs of all militia members there at Bunkerville.

The Chinese want their land SOON.


4 posted on 04/15/2014 6:53:05 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Texas Fossil

“We are talking selling nation treasure to foreign powers for benefit of Politicians.”

Absolutely. Some of us think that’s one of the goals of Agenda21. Eliminate rural Americans so the resources in those areas can be sold to the highest bidder. Including water rights. And this financial action is partly the promise that’s been given to foreign powers to convince them to continue to buy our debt.


5 posted on 04/15/2014 6:54:49 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Bingo, We have a winner.

Dead on the mark.


6 posted on 04/15/2014 7:00:24 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Spartan302

Exposure is in order.

The ChiComs can pound sand. They can take their wrath out on the Criminal POLs in DC.


7 posted on 04/15/2014 7:02:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

That’s why Reid and the BLM can’t back down.

They’ve already ‘cashed the check and spent the money’. Now the new owners want to take possession. And they will too and there’s nothing ‘we’ can do about it.


8 posted on 04/15/2014 7:02:51 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Texas Fossil

They say even a casually tossed pebble in a raging river will alter its course.

Its going to be hell if Walmart and such found that in the near future their shelves of Chinese made products are not selling.

Chicoms, the 21st century Redcoats?


9 posted on 04/15/2014 7:05:34 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: rktman

I would like to see Cruz, Paul or someone else introduce this simple new law:

No Federal government agency beyond the DOD, Customs, FBI and Secret Service is allowed to have its own military force, nor hold any weapons above a certain caliber.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 7:05:40 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Black Agnes

“...the goals of Agenda21...”

I now see signs of Agenda21 everywhere. In Nashville exists the Standard Candy Company which makes the famous Goo Goo Cluster. It is marketed as an old time Southern treat and Americana. Yet their web site has a page on “sustainability Initiatives”. It is a light industry anyway involving chocolate, peanuts, marshmellow, and caramel but they support a wind farm in West Texas and brag about purchasing “energy credits”. Go to googoo.com to see how the subversives have infiltrated the candy man’s plan.


11 posted on 04/15/2014 7:11:28 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Spartan302

“Chinese hit men teams are probably on their way to do a “Breitbart” on Bundy and family”

I’ll take the conspiracy even further. Some of he cows the BLM ran off with will be injected with some hideous disease and by the cover of dark be reintroduced to the heard. You know the rest of the story.


12 posted on 04/15/2014 7:12:58 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Black Agnes

We are not powerless.

Think Traitor Reid is beginning to understand that.


13 posted on 04/15/2014 7:13:01 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: rktman

Another wrinkle, if the “Won’t anyone think of the turtles!?” was bogus, maybe the “We must save Mother Gaia with solar.” is a hustle as well.
It wouldn’t be the first time a Democrat sold out. FDR, Yalta. Kennedy, Cuba. Carter, Panama. Clinton, who was that? initials ‘PRC’... Democrats pwned!
Conspiracy nutjob worthy, in any event.


14 posted on 04/15/2014 7:13:43 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: Texas Fossil

If I remember correctly (questionable to say the least) when Nevada was up for statehood, one of the conditions for admission was that the feds would get huge amounts of the state to control. Ended up being about 85% of the state. A little much to my way of thinking but here we are. Lots of room for forts and ammo storage depots on that much land. Probably less than 1% being used for that.


15 posted on 04/15/2014 7:20:55 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Texas Fossil

It may or may not be constitutional for the feds to own this land. If it’s not, then title to the land presumably would revert to the state, which would presumably want grazing fees for use of its land, or possibly make it available for him to purchase.

Besides the cost of the land purchase, Bundy would then be on the hook for ongoing property taxes and possibly be required to fence in his cattle. All of which is pretty darn expensive.


16 posted on 04/15/2014 7:23:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DAC21

Mad cow?

Thats pretty darn desperate and obvious. Would be like selling a fire extinguisher filled with kerosene.


17 posted on 04/15/2014 7:24:51 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Black Agnes

You nailed it. This is agenda 21 at work and people need to quit telling us how Bundy lost in court. The leftists have padded the courts to always come down on their side.


18 posted on 04/15/2014 7:30:06 AM PDT by dforest
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To: rktman

For most of the western states, especially Nevada, the public land not sold off before statehood was public for a good reason. Nobody wanted to buy it. It wasn’t good for anything except running a few cows or sheep. And prior to statehood it wasn’t even any good for that, as there was no market for them.

The state did not want title, because that would require them to control the land, which did not come anywhere close to bringing in the money from grazing fees and such to pay for it. The population of NV at statehood was probably under 20,000 and the taxpayers were perfectly happy to leave responsibility for this immense stretch of land with the federal government.

The situation had been different in states farther east, where land generally went into private ownership because there were buyers.


19 posted on 04/15/2014 7:33:23 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Nope, Bundy does not have title to the property and if the Fed Gov illegally controls the property it is the State that is responsible for it’s managment.

No, we have a Serious Constitutional issue that affects 1/3 of the nation.

And Booger Eating BLM Bureaucraps are now trying to take control of 90,000 Acres of land in Texas along the Red River. There will be a battle over that. Take that to the bank.


20 posted on 04/15/2014 7:35:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Sherman Logan

THE State of NV never relinquished their rights to the property, the Fed Gov took them in conflict with the Constitution.


21 posted on 04/15/2014 7:37:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Sherman Logan

It is TIME to DownSize DC!

Close Entire Rogue/Unconstitutional Departments including the SWAT Teams.


22 posted on 04/15/2014 7:38:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

If you want to don some tinfoil, this would be an excuse for the power elites in this country to ‘arrange’ something like a massive power system failure. That would eliminate 90% of us and the remaining 10% could be dealt with easily.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 8:00:19 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Spartan302
...The Chinese want their land SOON.

When Harry Reid does his dirty deeds this is who he's in business with.


24 posted on 04/15/2014 8:06:35 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: rktman

“BLM has announced it will no longer enforce a court order and stop stealing Bundy’s cows, called “trespass cattle” by the feds,”

Well until they can get a SWAT raid organized and take the guy out for good.


25 posted on 04/15/2014 8:23:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rktman

Very well-written editorial. Informative and insightful.

But this is NOT over.

I think the only reason the feds backed down is because the Reid connection came to light and the political consequences to the Dems got too high. So somebody made the BLM back down, but I bet they are furious about it.

And Reid isn’t going to give up his payday. He’ll just find another way to do it. Backdoor it through someone else, start talking land incrementally so no one will notice, something like that.

Regardless, this isn’t over, and there will be fallout from it.


26 posted on 04/15/2014 8:36:05 AM PDT by caligatrux
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To: Texas Fossil

I just called my congressman and suggested that a solution to this is for the federal government to transfer title of all open land now under federal control to the respective states. The individual that answered my call indicated that others had made that suggestion.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 8:51:19 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Ben Hecks

Our federal overlords would rather see most of us dead before they gave up their own personal fiefdoms. I suspect they’re working on that little end right now.


28 posted on 04/15/2014 9:24:19 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

CLIVEN BUNDY PING


29 posted on 04/15/2014 9:38:40 AM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: Ben Hecks

Bump!

End this insanity.

It is TIME to DownSize DC! Close entire Rogue/Unconstitutional Departments including their SWAT Teams.

FUBO!


30 posted on 04/15/2014 9:53:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil
We are talking selling nation treasure to foreign powers for benefit of Politicians.

Therein lies the rub.

31 posted on 04/15/2014 9:55:12 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Ben Hecks

BTTT!


32 posted on 04/15/2014 9:56:56 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Texas Fossil

I do too. Try tracing those deeds in NV. It’s impossible. It’s been that way forever. Who knows who actually owns what there.


33 posted on 04/15/2014 9:58:40 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Grampa Dave; granite; GreenFreeper; grjr21; I got the rope; IchBinEinBerliner; jaredt112; JayB; ...

CLIVEN BUNDY PING


34 posted on 04/15/2014 9:59:31 AM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: Jane Long

We must force this into public daylight.

There is NO WAY this should escape criminal charges against Reid and his son.


35 posted on 04/15/2014 10:06:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: rktman

Did not that solar business go out of business?


36 posted on 04/15/2014 10:20:03 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: 444Flyer

They have their land already as the pictures show.


37 posted on 04/15/2014 10:20:57 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Still Thinking; StopGlobalWhining; Straight Vermonter; Tampa Caver; TChris; ...

CLIVEN BUNDY PING


38 posted on 04/15/2014 10:34:21 AM PDT by raptor22 (Follow me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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These videos are for people who don't yet understand why Cliven Bundy broke his agreement with the BLM. They show why the BLM should not even be managing the public lands of Nevada or any other state.

1of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

2of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

3of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

Here's one that shows why the Sheriff of Clark County is duty bound to keep the BLM and all Federal agents from arresting Cliven Bundy.

Steven Pratt, Bound by Oath to Support THIS Constitution,/a>

39 posted on 04/15/2014 10:43:45 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Nifster
This says that no matter what one may think there are still a lot of people who will not fire on their fellow citizens

hahaha

More like, they never expected the reaction and they thought they had any reaction that DID occur corralled - literally - in a plastic fenced area they called "your 2nd amendment area" where the people would be well removed from the actions of the jackbooted.

But they were dealing with cowboys. Cowboys are real men - they can think for themselves and they aren't easily 'cowed'.

They also never expected hundreds pouring in from around the country - and then the line of mounted cowboys, sidearms on their hips, riding towards them - along with the people on the ground - AND the up on the "highgrounds" - embankments, with guns, were hundreds more.

WAs it that they wouldn't fire on their fellow citizens - or were they scared stiff and wanted nothing more than to get outta there?

I suspicion the latter.

Now, someone in the know and with connections inside theBLM says they're planning a late night raid on the ranch itself, once the people still there helping out leave. These are the kind of outfits that like to work, like rats, in the dark of night.

40 posted on 04/15/2014 9:02:50 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Texas Fossil; All

You say: “We are talking selling nation treasure to foreign powers for benefit of Politicians.”

Happening all ove the country- particularly the west.

Idaho is a prime example - and ties in with Agenda 21

take a look see -

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Agp_dSMUGDnpg5NeAbc_Cq2bvZx4?fr=yfp-t-121-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=idaho%20sells%20land%20chinese%20sustainable%20development


41 posted on 04/15/2014 9:10:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Black Agnes

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-msgr&p=idaho%20sell%20land%20chinese%20sustainable%20development&type=


42 posted on 04/15/2014 9:10:50 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: B4Ranch

Bookmarking your links


43 posted on 04/17/2014 10:57:56 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Texas Fossil

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3146326/posts


44 posted on 04/19/2014 9:47:59 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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