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(Ukrainian) Military storm airfield, town in eastern Ukraine, wounded reported - protesters
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Posted on 04/15/2014 7:13:20 AM PDT by kronos77

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To: kronos77

Report says that One Ukrainian Su-27 is hit by ground fire.


51 posted on 04/15/2014 7:57:02 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: elhombrelibre

So if you aren’t American Indian, we can expect you to return to your fatherland as well?


52 posted on 04/15/2014 7:57:25 AM PDT by wrench
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To: kronos77

“Report says that One Ukrainian Su-27 is hit by ground fire.”

If true, that likely means that half of Ukraine’s serviceable aircraft are now out of service.


53 posted on 04/15/2014 7:58:22 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: wrench

Pretty sure I’m not rebelling.


54 posted on 04/15/2014 7:58:41 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

I wouldn’t say that, I did two tours there. The Serbs were demonized in the media as well, however most of the really bad stuff I saw was done by moslems and croats. One particular group of croats were so savage to this day if I meet one I’d sooner just shoot.


55 posted on 04/15/2014 7:58:46 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: tcrlaf

Appreciate your postings but won’t open anything from the Kremlin
Your map has a security block I don’t and won’t bypass.


56 posted on 04/15/2014 7:59:06 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: AppyPappy
I spent a little time thinking of the excuses our Russian FRiends were giving when Georgia was invaded, and the homo-thing (obviously) was not an issue. Which indicates to me now that the homo-thing merely is an argument of convenience.
57 posted on 04/15/2014 7:59:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf
Re 45 Spetznaz: It appears that it is a statement by the First Deputy PM that has been recirculated.

From Kyiev Post

Yarema: Russia's 45th Airborne Regiment operating in eastern Ukraine

5:54 p.m. – While attending the funeral of a slain SBU captain in Poltava today, First Deputy Prime Minister Vitaliy Yarema said several hundred armed Russian military soldiers are in Luhansk, Donetsk and Kharkiv oblasts who were covertly and gradually sent there over a long period of time, reported local online news source Poltavashchyna.

“Right now, they’ve concentrated their strength in Krasniy Lyman, Horlivka, Kramatorsk and Slovyansk (all in Donetsk Oblast); the terrorists are committing violent acts against police officers and are taking over government buildings,” said Yarema.

According to the minister, it has been determined that some are from the 45th Airborne Regiment of the Russian army based near Moscow.

The Kremlin still maintains that none of its troops are in Ukraine and that it isn’t behind the terrorist acts in eastern Ukraine that have left government buildings in 10 cities occupied and at least one SBU officer dead, including nine injured, according to the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. – Mark Rachkevych

58 posted on 04/15/2014 8:00:35 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: wrench

If they are home they should act like they’re home, same for anyone. If you don’t like where you are and associate with another country...go there. These melting pots do not work, history has proven it. You either embrace your new country and fully assimilate to it’s law and culture or you beat it.


59 posted on 04/15/2014 8:00:58 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: 1rudeboy

Georgians attacked Russian soldiers base in Georgia, and than started indiscriminate shelling of S. Ossetian capital.


60 posted on 04/15/2014 8:01:31 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

See what I mean? The homo-thing was not an issue.


61 posted on 04/15/2014 8:02:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kronos77

Looks like Obama’s tough talk yesterday worked well.

We have a complete amateur in the White House. God help us all.


62 posted on 04/15/2014 8:02:55 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: mosesdapoet

I didn’t post a map, but it’s from “the Interpreter”.

They have been running a pretty conclusive Live Blog since this began, but they are getting slammed right now.


63 posted on 04/15/2014 8:03:02 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: wrench

Drop the Indian crap, they weren’t here first, they immigrated like everyone else.

I have lots of Indian buddies who believe in freedom as much as I do, and they don’t get hooked up on the past, they live in the now.


64 posted on 04/15/2014 8:03:14 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: kronos77

I am confused here. Are the rebels bad here? Putin is messing where he has no business, but that has never stopped a communist before. I’ve been too busy lately with family issues to have kept up with it.


65 posted on 04/15/2014 8:04:09 AM PDT by southernindymom
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To: Bulwyf

Oh, were you with Akran’s Tigers? Did you serve at Srebrenica?


66 posted on 04/15/2014 8:04:46 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

2PPCLI, and I’ve been all over that country.


67 posted on 04/15/2014 8:05:22 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: southernindymom

These rebels may have grievances but they’re being used by Putin to extend his personal empire. He’s an evil man, but some people here love him because they think his anti-gay policy is sincere and Christ like.


68 posted on 04/15/2014 8:06:18 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Ok, so the rebels are the bad guys, got it. Yes Putin has a special place in hell reserved for him. thanks


69 posted on 04/15/2014 8:08:25 AM PDT by southernindymom
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To: ScaniaBoy

What’s that saying, “The first casualty of War is Truth”?


71 posted on 04/15/2014 8:08:51 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Bulwyf

I guess you never heard of Operation Storm.


72 posted on 04/15/2014 8:09:10 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: southernindymom
Ukraine was neutral, nor Russian, nor NATO. It had legally elected president. Yanukovich. EU said that he must cut all ties to Russia. He refused and said, that if so, Ukraine wont join EU.
Than EU/NATO constructed putch using Ukrainian nationalist and neo-nazis (”Kill all the Jews and Russians” ), a coup in Kiev, ousting him - but also loosing control over 1/3 of the country. Than, Russians (1/3 of Ukraine population) and number of Ukrainians revolted.

This is a video of rebels, civilians that are confronting Ukrainian newly-formed “National Guard”, that was formed by new Kiev regime out of anti-Russian and neonazi volunteers .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EmcArAcgJc

As you may see, civilians are very angry and soldiers are ready to shoot at their own citizens.

73 posted on 04/15/2014 8:09:37 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: wrench
They are home. Do you also tell blacks to go back home to Africa?

Are you really comparing blacks, who were brought in chains to America, to Russians, who invaded and imposed their will on Ukraine? And murdered millions of Ukrainians?

74 posted on 04/15/2014 8:11:57 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Now, tell me my Polish friend. is it true that Poland invaded Czechs back in 1968 along side your Soviet masters?
Also is it true that Poland in 1936. sided with Hitler in Munich forcing Czechs to cede a city to Poland?

:)

75 posted on 04/15/2014 8:11:58 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: McGruff

True. Unfortunately, in this case the truth was out of the windows long before the actual shooting began.


77 posted on 04/15/2014 8:15:11 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: kronos77

LOL ! Hopefully soon we will have a party like in 99 ;)


78 posted on 04/15/2014 8:15:23 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: kronos77

Nuts.

I had hoped for cooler heads to prevail.


79 posted on 04/15/2014 8:18:13 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: wrench
So if you aren’t American Indian, we can expect you to return to your fatherland as well?

At the time, the Russians were also conquering huge swathes of territory from the natives, including the Caucasus, Central Asia and Siberia. This is about Russian imperialists conquering land in the here and now. The equivalent would be the US invading and annexing Mexico, Cuba, the Dominican Republic and the Philippines today. Russia is already almost twice as large as the next largest country on Earth.

80 posted on 04/15/2014 8:18:22 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: kronos77
At the same time, the eastern city of Slavyansk is being raided by Ukrainian troops, the head of the Donbass people’s militia, Sergey Tsyplakov, told RIA Novosti.

A Ukrainian city being raided by Ukrainian troops? Easy to see the political leanings of this publication.

81 posted on 04/15/2014 8:18:22 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

This thing that began with Crimea just doesn’t seem to die.


82 posted on 04/15/2014 8:19:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

:) LOL

That may be true, because we were never Hitler or Stalin henchmen .

P.S.
So, it is true that Poland was in fact Invader of Czechs in 1968 serving Soviets, and Hitler ally in 1936 claiming part of Czech land?


83 posted on 04/15/2014 8:20:27 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: tcrlaf; All

THE NATION’s Alec Luhn is at the airfield now, has posted several tweets:

Alec Luhn 2m
Locals are piling tires by the airfield entrance, blocking in government troops

Alec Luhn 5m
Protestors hold up a banner: Don’t shoot Kramatorsk residents

Alec Luhn 9m
Locals throw rocks at troops, soldiers fire in air

Alec Luhn 11m
Locals facing off with troops at gates to airfield. Shots fired in air

Alec Luhn 15m
Hands off Donbass! Locals chant, crowded around government commander

Alec Luhn 18m
Are we terrorists!? Locals yell at anti-terrorist operation commander

Alec Luhn 19m
Who were you shooting at? Locals demand of Krutov

Alec Luhn 21m
Locals have set up a barricade outside Kramatorsk airfield. Anti-terrorist operation commander Krutov talking to angry crowd

Alec Luhn 25m
A few young men in masks just arrived at Kramatorsk airfield, reportedly under control of Ukrainian forces now

Alec Luhn 28m
Locals are holding Russian flag, Molotov cocktails outside Kramatorsk airfield, which has been taken by Ukrainian forces

Alec Luhn 29m
Local protestor says only two helis with commandos touched down at Kramatorsk airfield, which means other two attacking something else

Alec Luhn 35m
A ton of locals gathered around Kramatorsk airport to watch the fireworks

Alec Luhn 36m
Witnesses in Kramatorsk saw commandos deploy from helicopters, saw fighter jet firing overhead

Alec Luhn 44m
Kramatorsk airfield where firing was heard, fighter jet overhead

Alec Luhn 52m
Helicopters with Ukrainian special forces flying toward Kramatorsk, where operation underway to seize airfield, Gen Krotov just told us


84 posted on 04/15/2014 8:21:29 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: southernindymom
Ukraine had an agreement with the EU. Russia bribed the Ukrainian president to back out of it and form closer ties to the Russian Federation. Thousands of Ukrainians took to the street, peacefully, until the Ukrainian president became heavy-handed about it. Then violence happened on both sides. A hundred or so protestors were killed. The Ukrainians didn't back down, and the president was impeached and fled the country.

Meanwhile, the Russians militarily occuped an area of Ukraine called Crimea. [editorial note: nothing to see here, just a coincidence /s] Now, other Russians who favor closer ties with Russia (or to ditch Ukraine altogether) are protesting, and Ukraine is trying to get them in line. Presidential election scheduled for May 25, I believe.

That's about it . . . it's a mess. No one comes out of it a champion.

85 posted on 04/15/2014 8:21:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Mike Darancette

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EmcArAcgJc

Yep, coup regime in Kiev is going against its own citizens. This is video of standoff between civilians and Kiev troops. I see no Russian special forces here ;)


86 posted on 04/15/2014 8:22:12 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
Is that what it reminds you of?

Fascinating ...

87 posted on 04/15/2014 8:22:34 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: McGruff

How do these people go home and confront their Ukrainian neighbors and coworkers?


88 posted on 04/15/2014 8:23:26 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: tcrlaf; All

CNN still too busy repeating non-news about MH370 to be bothered with covering a War in the making, despite all of the photos and Video available.

Is CNN CEO Jeff Zucker afraid that actually covering News might make Obama look bad?? He did write speeched for Obama in 2008, remember?


89 posted on 04/15/2014 8:24:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Crimea was for strategic purposes; Kiev is for some perverted spiritual quest to reclaim Russia's “essence”. The EU better wake up.
90 posted on 04/15/2014 8:25:58 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Claimed strategic purposes; but it’s like eating that proverbial Lays potato chip. Go ahead, stop at one. It is to laugh!


91 posted on 04/15/2014 8:27:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I think they actually believe it.


93 posted on 04/15/2014 8:27:41 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: kronos77

The Serbs did their best fighting that show’d their skills at Srebrenica. You must be proud of that!


94 posted on 04/15/2014 8:27:43 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Putin is running a dime bag kleptocracy. He can’t afford a stable and independent Ukraine while he robs the Russian people.


95 posted on 04/15/2014 8:29:14 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: HiTech RedNeck; All

Update from The Interpreter:

More Details on Actions at Kamatorsk Airbase Today
2014-04-15 16:26:45
Ukrainska Pravda has a report up which sheds more light on the operation at Kramatorsk airport today:

Unidentified fighters with military outfits and automatic weapons were attempting to storm the aerodrome in Kramatorsk.

Ukrainska Pravda was informed of this by a source in the security agencies.

“But the aerodrome is well defended, so the attack was repulsed. There were no casualties on our side. But, since we did not know how the assault would end, our planes and helicopters took off so as to protect our equipment”, said the source.

“It’s calm now in the town, the National Guard is in action”, he added.

Earlier, it was reported that gunshots and several explosions were heard at the airbase in Kramatorsk.

Up until that point, miltary aircraft were circling above the airbase, reported the Kramatorsk News website.

According to eyewitnesses, either a MiG-25 or a Su-27 flew very low, for around half an hour, in the direction of Donetsk.

Afterwards, several ambulances and emergency service vehicles drove up to the airfield, from which explosions and gunfire were heard.

At the same time, Andrei Romanenko, the deputy editor of the Kramatorsk News, wrote on Facebook: “The war is under way at the airbase in Kramtorsk...Someone is trying to storm the base!” reports Ostrov.

Ukrainska Pravda notes however in follow-ups that the situation remains uncertain. Three helicopters have been seen flying over the airbase, and a crowd of people, half in camouflage, the other half civilians (including children) have gathered near the aerodrome. One soldier has been reported to have been shot in the leg while on duty at a checkpoint.

Mobile telecommunications have also been disrupted in the area.


96 posted on 04/15/2014 8:30:14 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: lodi90

Putin the 75 billion dollar man, president for life, and emperor of the new Russian third world empire.


97 posted on 04/15/2014 8:30:18 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: tcrlaf

If Kiev Obama-junta starts loosing the battle, CNN will start with “Breaking news about Russian invasion”


98 posted on 04/15/2014 8:30:20 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Some of these Russians are just weird. If it’s not the fascists holding them down, or neo-Nazis, it’s the Jews, or the EU. Or the US and NATO. Or all at once.


99 posted on 04/15/2014 8:30:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: elhombrelibre

The Serbs did their best fighting that show’d their skills at Srebrenica.


The shelling and sniping Sarajevo was another high spot of Serb history. It’s to tough to decide what their finest hour is. So many possibilities.


100 posted on 04/15/2014 8:31:42 AM PDT by lodi90
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