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Inside the Bundy Ranch standoff: The stakes go far beyond cattle
Investor's Business Daily ^ | April 15, 2014 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 04/15/2014 9:13:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It was a tense standoff in rural Nevada with armed protesters closing I-15 for a while and facing off against even more heavily-armed federal agents.

For now, that volatile Bundy Ranch confrontation has been defused. But it's not over by any means. And we may well experience others that do not pause in non-violence.

These are profound disputes illustrative of abiding suspicions among average Americans and their government headed by a man who promised to bring people together but didn't. And it comes in an uncertain economic time when so many have given up big dreams to just keep what they have.

The specific Nevada dispute, such as it is, has been simmering for 21 years between a Mormon cattle rancher named Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management, better-known in the West as BLMM, the Bureau of Land Mis-Management.

But the far larger issue, most intense in the West, involves a mounting distrust and suspicion of all things federal -- Congress, the bureaucracy and especially an aloof president. His perceived interests are inserting an over-reaching government into the lives of every American for their own good from closing coal mines and rewriting restaurant menus to seizing private property and regulating cow farts.....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bundy; bunkerville; nevada; obama

1 posted on 04/15/2014 9:13:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harry China deal on hold Reid talks to friends.


2 posted on 04/15/2014 9:15:59 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

Documentation and background on NV issues (TX too)
Plus Clinton eminent-domain deal with Chinese here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3144533/posts


3 posted on 04/15/2014 9:25:09 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Vaduz

I just posted this on another thread.

...background on the Solar Power deal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3144533/posts?page=36#36


4 posted on 04/15/2014 9:26:12 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if it is a good comparison, but remember the Rodney King riots. Please don’t flame me. :)

King was guilty of traffic violations and resisting arrest. People believed that the authorities acted abusively and unfairly. And the police officers were acquitted. People rioted.

Important point: the riots might have started out of frustration and anger but then ended up being a free for all. An opportunity to steal and commit violence.

I guess my point is that if people believe that there is an injustice, the original offense and possible law breaking is irrelevant.


5 posted on 04/15/2014 9:31:34 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unless Washington is cleaned out America is finished. Just look at the heavily military arm of King Obama and maybe one might listen to what I have been predicting. Civil War and hundreds of thousands murdered by a corrupt communists Government made up of all parties.


6 posted on 04/15/2014 9:44:02 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: hoosiermama

Looks like the Chinese know who to make a deal with the democrats appear a lot like Godfathers.


7 posted on 04/15/2014 9:56:56 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

Clinton’s deal Obama carries thru with Hillary’s help.

Good synopsis here: (Freepers are finding more , the more we look-— it’s not just about one rancher and a few cows)

Feds grant eminent domain as collateral to China for US debts.
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February 26, 2009
FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!
Beijing, China — Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People’s Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China’s continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take — inside the USA — land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to “take” all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow.

I am endeavoring to obtain images or copies of the actual document but in the interim, several different sources both in the US and in China have CONFIRMED this to me.

More details as they become available. . . . . spread the word ASAP.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f8_1235673139#pdXmkySW5AZvuzLa.99


8 posted on 04/15/2014 10:02:56 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hash-mark Harry has telegraphed the gov’t response to the standoff. Sometime soon citizens involved in the standoff will be dragged from their cars and homes. Count on it. This is an official, made on the Internet, prediction.


9 posted on 04/15/2014 10:11:13 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: hoosiermama

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

Wonder how many other deals have been made under the table Obama&Co debt appears more like a plan fro the get go danger is at hand.
No wonder D.C. is in such a hush mode something about happen?.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 10:13:29 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
BLM saw no contradiction sending in dozens of armed federal agents to confront a 67-year-old man behind in his rent while the president of the United States and the nation's chief law enforcement officer traveled to New York to dine with and speak on behalf of the notorious Al Sharpton, who's been more than $1 million behind in his income taxes.

That's gonna leave a mark. I might point out as well that another feller somewhat behind to the government, Timothy Geithner, ended up as no less than the Secretary of the Treasury. I don't recall armed federal agents coming to his door unless they were bodyguards.

So yes, quite a bit more going on here than cows. As the author points out, the entire theme of the 0bama administration is how he and his progressive allies were going to "transform" the country whether the citizens in it liked it or not. They weren't kidding, and they're willing to threaten deadly force to accomplish it. These people never intended to represent, nor even to govern, they intended to rule and have acted the part. The only part of this affair that might be marginalized as being only about grazing cows is the mildness of the blowback. That was nothing. And I get no sense at all that the federal government is aware that the conditions that brought armed protesters to a small community in the middle of nowhere are highly likely to recur if the overbearing weight of federal regulation and enforcement continues to beat down on progressive class enemies. "This isn't over," says the crook named Harry Reid. He's right about that.

11 posted on 04/15/2014 10:26:51 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Logical me

These government punks with badges remind me of the kraut goons of WWII. Their dress, their demeanor and their tactics. Why the hell does the BLM, social security, US postal service etc... need armed killer/intimidation goon squads?

I listened to a recording of one of the BLM goons this morning telling a protester that he was there defending the 1st Amendment and the Constitution. Really which Constitution and 1st Amendment do you speak of because the US Constitution and the 1st Amendment do not regulate it citizens to goon approved, little 25 ft. areas miles away from where the goons are doing their dirty work and these little 25 ft. areas patrolled by armed goon squads with their attack dogs mr. BLM goon.


12 posted on 04/15/2014 10:28:12 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Logical me
Speaking of King Obama, this caught my eye:

<>abiding suspicions among average Americans and their government headed by a man who promised to bring people together . . . <>

That is language more associated with a king, not a president. We are fast getting used to a barely limited executive. Kings can be noble, dictators cannot.

13 posted on 04/15/2014 10:33:22 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Change is not made without inconvenience, even from worse to better - Richard Hooker. Article V.)
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These videos are for people who don't yet understand why Cliven Bundy broke his agreement with the BLM. They show why the BLM should not even be managing the public lands of Nevada or any other state.

1of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

2of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

3of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

Here's one that shows why the Sheriff of Clark County is duty bound to keep the BLM and all Federal agents from arresting Cliven Bundy.

Steven Pratt, Bound by Oath to Support THIS Constitution,/a>

14 posted on 04/15/2014 10:34:05 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Vaduz

Get the word out. Email links to as many as you can and send to all the conservative radio people etc


15 posted on 04/15/2014 10:34:47 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I get that part of this is that he owes the government money.

Could it be any more than Michelle spent on any of her many $$multi million vacations?
Maybe they should just cut her off and give this guy some slack for not wanting his money to go to the wrong places.


16 posted on 04/15/2014 10:40:54 AM PDT by stanne
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To: TalBlack
Hash-mark Harry has telegraphed the gov’t response to the standoff. Sometime soon citizens involved in the standoff will be dragged from their cars and homes. Count on it. This is an official, made on the Internet, prediction.

Then it will get really ugly.
I would even hope to see the same happen to the tyrants.
Then all bets are off.

People are very angry and showing up armed and ready.
They need to go after the head of the snake next time.

17 posted on 04/15/2014 10:42:29 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: hoosiermama
Too bad the author of that blog cannot produce any evidence to back up the claim.

Oh, and any POTUS cannot do what is charged without Congressional action.

I'm certain that there's AT LEAST ONE Senator or Congressman who would blow the whistle if it were ever proposed.

If the Chinese took the word of Hillary and Obama without public congressional action, too bad for them. They just got suckered and defrauded.

18 posted on 04/15/2014 10:48:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Vaduz

"On all these issues, but particularly missile defence, this can be solved," Mr Obama said. "But it's important for him to give me space.

"This is my last election," Mr Obama went on. "After my election I have more flexibility."

"I understand," Mr Medvedev responded. "I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

19 posted on 04/15/2014 11:00:40 AM PDT by Daffynition (I stand with the Bundy Family!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone else notice how it is only under Democrat presidents that citizens are threatened by armed government officials?

The Japanese internment
Civil rights protesters
Waco
Ruby Ridge
Elias Gonzalez
Bundy Ranch


20 posted on 04/15/2014 11:13:27 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette

Pretty much everything Woodrow Wilson did
Chicago DNC Convention
“First Amendment Areas”
Copperheads
KKK and KKK revival


21 posted on 04/15/2014 11:20:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Jvette

I think they plan to “Waco” Bundy sometime in the not too distant future. I hope they are prepared fight off the government scum bags. It is possible that CW 2 is closer than we thought. I hope not, but I am beginning to think there is no getting around it. I think the government is actually hoping to start the war.


22 posted on 04/15/2014 11:31:03 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17

The divide in this country is deep. Armed conflict would spread over the entire nation as there are no clear boundaries between the ideological camps.

I truly hope it never comes to such as I love this country and do not want to be at war with fellow citizens.

I think there has been deliberate fanning of the flames of hatred each side feels toward the other making resolution difficult.

That is why I believe that states’ rights must be upheld and strengthened. The tyranny of the left has been egregious since the election of Pres. Obama. Likewise, his election has triggered a sense of urgency in people who now see the need to protect and preserve our country from the enemy within.

Attempts at reining in the federal government haven’t been very successful so I don’t really see where we go from here. I know it’s been said before, but truly this coming election is pivotal. The results will bolster the winning side to increase their efforts; one side to transform America into a country most of us over a certain age will not recognize and the other to stand even more solidly against the tide of socialism/Marxism.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 1:27:07 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette
I truly hope it never comes to such as I love this country and do not want to be at war with fellow citizens

I hope not also, but we shall see. You mentioned the left's desire to transform the country into something we won't recognize. My question would be, if the country hasn't already reached that point, how much worse can it get? Concentration camps and crematoriums?

24 posted on 04/15/2014 2:44:48 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17

There is still some semblance of the American spirit, especially in the heartland of America and that spirit is struggling to survive in the onslaught of Obama and his cohorts.

We are seeing it in the Tea Party and most recently in those who left their homes to support Bundy here in the state of Nevada.

As the left pushes their agenda more forcefully, the reality of what they are doing is coming to light.

Thank God for the internet and alternate news sources. Without them much of the left’s devious actions would never come to light.

That is why this November is so important. He has two more years in office. We need a firewall, no matter how weak, to put the brakes on some of his power grab. Sometimes, all one side needs is to hold out long enough for the tide to turn.


25 posted on 04/15/2014 3:25:16 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Mark17

Concentration camps and crematoriums?

It doesn’t start there, it starts with indoctrination
in our schools, it starts with infringments on our
rights as free men, it starts with the disarming of
a free people.....then it’s concentration camps and
crematoriums.


26 posted on 04/15/2014 3:31:49 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Ok, the things you mentioned are pretty much happening now. The disarming, if and when that happens, might be the beginning of the massacres.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 3:42:48 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Daffynition

Flexibility = Treason


28 posted on 04/16/2014 7:59:08 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: hoosiermama

Agree


29 posted on 04/16/2014 7:59:43 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Mariner

It’s out there!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ


30 posted on 04/16/2014 8:21:29 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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