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Northern Michigan dam fails, section of U.S. 127 could flood
mlive ^ | 4-15-2014 | Andrew Krietz

Posted on 04/15/2014 12:17:52 PM PDT by Darren McCarty

ROSCOMMON TOWNSHIP, MI — Flood water reportedly is moving quickly downstream toward Old 27 and U.S. 127 after a dam failed in the area.

A flash flood warning is in effect for southwestern Roscommon County until 6 p.m. Tuesday following the breakage of the Wraco Lodge Dam. Shortly after noon, the National Weather Service reported water was just inches below a U.S. 127 bridge.

There is the possibility of water overtopping the highway between mile markers 185 and 186. Motorists are advised to not drive over flooded roads.

"The water is about a foot and a half from the top of the bridge, (and) traffic is still flowing over the freeway," Michigan State Police Trooper Kevin Flick said. He added there are no plans as of yet to shut down the highway.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: flood; houghtonlake; michigan; old27; roscommon; us127
This is over near Houghton Lake just SW of where I used to live. US-127 is one of the five major routes "up North", and one of the three expressways. Keep an eye out that way. I'd be taking I-75 for awhile if I'm going to up to visit family and my old stomping grounds.
1 posted on 04/15/2014 12:17:53 PM PDT by Darren McCarty
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To: Darren McCarty

Just dam.

(Somebody had to say it)


2 posted on 04/15/2014 12:18:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek

ping


3 posted on 04/15/2014 12:20:49 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Darren McCarty
AT 257 PM EDT...EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FROM THE COUNTY REPORTS THAT WATER LEVELS ARE NOW APPROXIMATELY ONE FOOT BELOW THE US-127 BRIDGE AND SLOWLY FALLING. HOWEVER...OLD 27 NEAR WOLF CREEK REMAINS UNDER WATER AND CLOSED. OTHER ROADS THAT REMAIN CLOSED INCLUDE WRACO AND ROLLWAY ROADS FROM OLD 27 EAST TO RESERVE ROAD...AND NEWAYGO AND TOWNLINE ROADS FROM WRACO ROAD SOUTH TO ROLLWAY ROAD.

from http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=apx&wwa=flash%20flood%20warning

4 posted on 04/15/2014 12:21:02 PM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: Darren McCarty

Houghton lake is a wonderful vacation site.


5 posted on 04/15/2014 12:22:17 PM PDT by jayrunner
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To: dfwgator

Damn failings, what else could be expected with zero in the House.


6 posted on 04/15/2014 12:22:19 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Global warming?

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Michigan legislative action thread
7 posted on 04/15/2014 12:22:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: palmer

GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 04/15/2014 12:22:52 PM PDT by jayrunner
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To: Darren McCarty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKkJHSO8A0


9 posted on 04/15/2014 12:23:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Darren McCarty

Bush’s fault.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 12:24:56 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Darren McCarty

How the hell can a damn fail in this day and age.


11 posted on 04/15/2014 12:28:12 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Sometimes they are just piled up dirt.


12 posted on 04/15/2014 12:30:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Veggie Todd
"The dam reportedly was installed by the Department of National Resources in 2012"

Even if it was installed in 2012, it's still Bush's fault because he didn't do enough to stop Global Warming.

13 posted on 04/15/2014 12:33:00 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Sacajaweau
"How the hell can a damn fail in this day and age."

"The dam reportedly was installed by the Department of National Resources in 2012"

Just another of Obama's "shovel ready" stimulus projects.

14 posted on 04/15/2014 12:39:49 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Darren McCarty
Uppper reaches of the Muskegon River.

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15 posted on 04/15/2014 12:42:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Back in the 80’s the State of Michigan told a small northern village the dam for their Mill Pond was sub-standard. The village finally got the state to build a new dam. That new dam lasted only a few years before it collapsed during a heavy rain storm.

Just because it is new does not mean the engineers can’t screw it up.


16 posted on 04/15/2014 12:58:43 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: OldMissileer

The USACE rebuilt the earthen dam where in live in the early 90s.


17 posted on 04/15/2014 1:00:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mastador1
Damn failings, what else could be expected with zero in the House.

Not a shovel-ready job, I guess.

18 posted on 04/15/2014 1:03:45 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: publius911
Not a shovel-ready job, I guess.

A new “maintenance free” dam was installed by the Department of Natural Resources on Wolf Creek at the outlet of Wraco Lake

Not so “maintenance free” after all, perhaps they should have kept their shovels ready!

19 posted on 04/15/2014 1:11:20 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: OldMissileer
The idiots can't do anything right.

Dam Removal Mishap Raises More Questions, Concerns

In this case the locals didn't want the dam removed and were ignored. A local businessman even offered to pay to restore the dam and restart the power generating station at no cost to anyone but himself and they still said no.
20 posted on 04/15/2014 1:18:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The old dam in Luther was concrete. The Mill Pond actually had two dams as one was built off of a dredged channel for a DC power generation facility. As you can tell this thing was quite old since the village power was DC. The channel was filled in but the main dam remained. It had wooden slats that could be pulled out to lower the water levels.

I forgot the exact years this happened and can’t seem to find them on an initial search but the state said the old dam was failing and they finally built a new one that had a spillway taking water from the pond bottom. It was really neat looking but the engineers did not design it properly and when much of the old silt washed away because of the bottom type spillway the dam was undercut. A large rain storm occurred and the whole thing kicked out from the bottom and disintegrated. Some friends of mine live less than a block away and heard some really bad rumbling noises. When they looked out of their front window they saw the dam come apart.


21 posted on 04/15/2014 1:19:59 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: dfwgator

dayyyy-ummm!

someone else had to say something different!


22 posted on 04/15/2014 1:25:54 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: Enterprise

Yeh I looked it up and laughed.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 1:27:09 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cripplecreek

I have good friends who live on River Road across the street from the Boardman River. They told me the river got quite high and the two homes across the street, right on the river, were flooded.


24 posted on 04/15/2014 1:29:32 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: OldMissileer
The Horton Mill pond in Horton Mi washed out in the 80s. It was an old earthen dam with full grown willow trees growing out of it. It was in rough shape with the trees being the only thing holding it in place. The USACE rebuilt it very stout. Its still an earthen dam but its like concrete.

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25 posted on 04/15/2014 1:32:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The third iteration of the Mill Pond dam in Luther is still concrete. The topography doesn’t allow for a proper earthen dam.


26 posted on 04/15/2014 1:39:09 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: Sacajaweau

“How the hell can a damn fail in this day and age.”

It was a “wildlife dam”, designed by AgencyPersons most likely.

Gubment trough feeders accomplished their usual actualization of bureaucratic excellence.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 2:42:38 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: cripplecreek

This is our family lake that myself, mom, and brother built around and own. To the west where the square edge is to the lake is our levy, about 50' above the road level, the lake was dug below that so that earthen levy is holding back a serious amount of water. We all carry an umbrella policy because if it ever fails we know we will have to replace a good portion of the road below it, probably our neighbors crops, and hopefully no vehicles driving along if it ever does. Needless to say gophers, muskrats and beaver are not viewed as frolicking woodland creatures of beauty, but of moving targets are best viewed through a 12x scope.

28 posted on 04/16/2014 6:06:19 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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