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Rumsfeld: 'I know I don't know' if my tax return was done accurately
The Hill ^ | 04/15/2014 | Blake Neff

Posted on 04/15/2014 5:09:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld filed his taxes on Tuesday with an added twist: a letter telling the IRS that he had no idea whether his return was, in fact, accurate.

“Despite the fact that I am a college graduate and I try hard to make sure our tax returns are accurate...I know that I do not know whether or not my tax returns are accurate, which is a sad commentary on governance in our nation's capital," Rumsfeld's letter reads.

The letter’s phrasing appears to allude to Rumsfeld’s famous “unknown unknowns” statement in 2002, when he said, in reference to Iraqi weapons programs, that “there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

The letter was revealed via a tweet Rumsfeld sent out Tuesday afternoon with a picture of the letter.

That I & most Americans have no idea whether our taxes are accurate tells us something. My annual letter to the #IRS: pic.twitter.com/BFh0AXTvAk— Donald Rumsfeld (@RumsfeldOffice) April 15, 2014

Rumsfeld's letter expresses hope that the U.S. will reform its tax code to be simpler “at some point in my lifetime, and I am now in my 80s, so there are not many years left.”

Tax reform has been a major issue in recent years on Capitol Hill, with several representatives and interest groups pushing for the tax code to be simplified with lower rates but fewer deductions.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donaldrumsfeld; incometax; irs; rumsfeld; rumsfeldletter; taxcode

1 posted on 04/15/2014 5:09:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

2 posted on 04/15/2014 5:09:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The IRS is definitely in a sad state of affairs.
3 posted on 04/15/2014 5:16:19 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SeekAndFind

I love Rumsfeld. He is a good American.


4 posted on 04/15/2014 5:17:11 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Parley Baer

I blame congress as much as the cronies in the IRS. Our representatives need to man up and take back control.


5 posted on 04/15/2014 5:18:47 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

FDR wrote a similar letter back in the day.


6 posted on 04/15/2014 5:19:59 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SeekAndFind

I sure hope Rummy isn’t going to be targeted for an audit now after sending in that letter.


7 posted on 04/15/2014 5:21:44 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: SeekAndFind
Ten bucks says he's audited...and then indicted.
8 posted on 04/15/2014 5:22:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Rumsfeld blew their minds with his “unknown unknowns” comment back in the day.


9 posted on 04/15/2014 5:23:10 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: SeekAndFind

He shouldn’t worry. The IRS would have to read it to find out what’s in it. These days, most government employees don’t bother to read anything anyway. Especially those commie jugheads up on Capitol Hill.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 5:23:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The next Republican platform should include a statement pledging a net reduction in the size of the federal register and tax codes respectively.


11 posted on 04/15/2014 5:24:28 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Parley Baer

The IRS does not know either.

If you call the IRS help line, you often get different answers to the same question.

If you talk to an IRS agent, they often give different answers.


12 posted on 04/15/2014 5:24:30 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Blue Highway

As long as Rummy isn’t attending any TEA Party rallies, he should be safe ;)


13 posted on 04/15/2014 5:27:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t worry Donald, the IRS will be delighted to point out the error of your ways.


14 posted on 04/15/2014 5:28:42 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m an MBA but I pay a guy to do my taxes. Its because I’m an MBA that I pay a guy. I trust him which is the only reason I think they’re done right.


15 posted on 04/15/2014 5:30:54 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: muir_redwoods
I used to do my taxes years ago but now I pay a guy to do them. He has a PHD and his firm charges an exorbitant amount for the service.

I'm happy to pay to avoid the aggravation and for plausible deniability since I'm convinced it's impossible to not violate some rule or other.

16 posted on 04/15/2014 5:44:28 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: stormhill

Unfortunately there is no plausible deniability when it comes to your tax returns. Once you sign it, you own it, even if you didn’t prepare it and didn’t read it.


17 posted on 04/15/2014 5:46:25 PM PDT by Oceander
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To: stormhill

I don’t even do the 1040EZ for my kids. It’s like volunteering for aggravation.


18 posted on 04/15/2014 5:48:30 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Oceander

Of course you’re right; it’s a psych game I play to retain what little’s left of my sanity.


19 posted on 04/15/2014 5:59:03 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Donald,
There IS a common sense, liberty based fix for the despotic tax system under which we stupidly suffer.
It’s described in the 4 1/2 minute video at the link.
If you agree, PLEASE SHARE THIS POST.
If you DO NOT, gently clank your chains. (Not too loud or massa might notice and become angry.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmYXEwbK1k0&list=UUFDlhK80EdO28R-iGTXiGaw


20 posted on 04/15/2014 6:09:33 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Blue Highway

I had the same thought...the letter almost says “I am old and vulnerable, so go ahead and audit, steal, or malign my reputation and my money”


21 posted on 04/15/2014 6:11:07 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: FreeAtlanta

Like Dick Cheney, he’s a National Treasure.


22 posted on 04/15/2014 6:20:46 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve done my own tax returns since my dad taught me how to fill out the 1040EZ back in 1961 when I earned a few hundred dollars at a summer job and had a small refund due me. I did them by hand for years, then switched to TurboTax about 15 years ago. I buy their audit insurance every year from them which means they will defend my return to the IRS and I will never had to meet with the IRS and they pay any fees, fines or taxes I may owe, if audited. The hardest part of doing your taxes is gathering all of your numbers and paperwork. The easiest part is to enter that information into the software. I never understood paying someone else money to do what I can essentially do myself.

But I have to agree with Rumsfeld. I too am a college graduate and spent years as an underwriter in the mortgage banking business where I had analyze prospective borrower’s tax returns to ascertain their income. But I never know for sure whether I have done my return properly, even though TurboTax performs error and audit checks several times before I file the return. I’ve never been audited in 52 years. I hope that track record continues into the future.

The tax system needs a major overhaul but good luck with that, when we have such divergent ideas from both political parties as to what should be done, if anything.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 6:25:42 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: FreeAtlanta

AGREED!!


24 posted on 04/15/2014 6:27:37 PM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I sure agree with you. I loved his book.


25 posted on 04/15/2014 6:29:34 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Yardstick

That was my first thought as well.

You file taxes with the paperwork you have, not the paperwork you might want or wish to have at a later time…


26 posted on 04/15/2014 6:45:00 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: staytrue
The IRS does not know either.

The IRS knows that if Elijah Cummings says "jump" that they must say "how high?"

27 posted on 04/15/2014 6:47:25 PM PDT by Theophilus (.)
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To: JimSEA
Don’t worry Donald, the IRS will be delighted to point out the error of your ways.

It's all about Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

28 posted on 04/15/2014 6:49:36 PM PDT by Theophilus (.)
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To: staytrue

And, I’ve heard that if you rely on information from an IRS rep on the phone, that you can still be held liable for errors.

I’ve heard that you need to get tax advice/interpretations of laws and regulations, in writing, from the IRS to be able to defend yourself against an audit of certain things. Someone correct me if I’m mistaken in that. If true, it is maddening, because it means you can’t get clarification without jumping through lots of hoops.


29 posted on 04/15/2014 6:50:48 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: SeekAndFind
I do my own taxes, with TurboTax. I have a PhD in statistics. Every year, I am convinced of two things. One, I've paid more taxes than I really owe. Two, I've done something they can fine or jail me for. It's a sad commentary on our tax system.
30 posted on 04/15/2014 6:55:03 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The IRS and the tax code are a convoluted contraption of reeking garbage which they pull right out of thin air.

If line 72B is more than 1000 and line 26C is less than 38k, subtract 2, add 54k, subtract 52, multiply by 300k and divide by 120. If you or your spouse eat chicken 3x per week or less, check mark box 261 and send the rest to the IRS. If you feel you did not pay enough, add more.

Sign under penalty of perjury.


31 posted on 04/15/2014 7:45:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

What an outstanding MAN! I just said about the same thing today.

This is what makes me sweat bullets even when I document each and every thing, tell my accountant to be very conservative and still feel like I screwed up! I have no idea if my tax return is correct!

You have 10 CPAs do a simple 1040 for a W-2 wage earner and you will get 10 results.

It is indeed a sorry state of affairs isn’t it?

The tax code is the special weapon of politicians to punish enemies and favor friends. It is all but expressly subject to interpretation.


32 posted on 04/15/2014 7:50:20 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Parley Baer

The perversity of our tax code can be summed up as:

Concentrated benefits to the few in the short term, paid for by dispersed costs to the many in the long run.

A lobbyist’s dream.


33 posted on 04/15/2014 8:04:21 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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