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Putin’s ‘Russian Spring’
National Review ^ | April 14, 2014 | Robert Zubrin

Posted on 04/15/2014 6:37:37 PM PDT by prairiebreeze

On April 6, Eurasianist storm troopers operating under Kremlin coordination launched assaults, seizing government buildings in Donetsk, Kharkiv, Lugansk, and several smaller cities in eastern Ukraine; declared themselves to be the assemblies of independent governments; and immediately invited Russian troops to invade and annex their respective fictional statelets.

There can be no doubt that many of the thousands of invaders involved were in fact Eurasianist storm troopers, and not, as reported by some media outlets, “pro-Russian protesters.” They carried the outward-radiating eight-arrowed flag of Putinist ideologue Aleksandr Dugin’s fascist Eurasianist movement and shouted and displayed its slogan for the operation, “Russian Spring.” There can be no doubt that their moves were made in coordination with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, because he, for his part, has positioned 50,000 Russian troops just across the border, armed and equipped to carry out the requested invasion.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eurasianist; fascism; putin; robertzubrin; ukraine
But no action was taken by Western leaders to prevent the invasion. Far from it; the Obama administration and its European counterparts have been rolling out the red carpet.

Mr. Obama being....flexible.

Three pages, worth a read

1 posted on 04/15/2014 6:37:37 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: prairiebreeze
The Eurasianist Threat

Cross-linking

2 posted on 04/15/2014 6:39:06 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: prairiebreeze

Probably a mistake to post this while our vodka-besodden group of FReepers are sleeping it off.


3 posted on 04/15/2014 6:50:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: prairiebreeze

What’s really funny is the author’s endorsement of the liberal virus weakening and sapping the West of its strength and courage. He has no criticism for the Left’s cultural devastation of the West. If we are not strong at home, we cannot be strong abroad. William Buckley is rolling over in his grave. National Review is anything but a “conservative” magazine. I am not a fan of the liberal West.


4 posted on 04/15/2014 6:50:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: prairiebreeze
The West Leaves Ukraine to Putin

Another cross-link from WSJ

5 posted on 04/15/2014 6:56:47 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: prairiebreeze

“Springtime for Putin”


6 posted on 04/15/2014 7:02:10 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: prairiebreeze

The Maidan’s regime half-hearted crackdown won’t succeed. Its destroying the country with its own hands. All of which makes Moscow very happy - and its wisely proceeding from the time-tested principle that when the enemy is in the process of destroying himself, don’t interfere. The attack on the Russian-speaking East was stupid - and it may well finish off for good the prospects of a federal Ukraine.


7 posted on 04/15/2014 7:02:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Hugin
“Springtime for Putin”

Don't be stupid, be a smartie. Come and join the Commie Party!

8 posted on 04/15/2014 7:05:11 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: goldstategop

Putin’s assessment of the West is correct. We are weak, decadent and a vain Civilization. Russian’s pivot away from the West’s orbit is looking brighter each day.


9 posted on 04/15/2014 7:06:48 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: prairiebreeze

Sorry but Ukraine is NOT a vital American interest. We’re not going to wage World War III on a lost cause. I know it sounds heartless but we’re not betraying the Ukrainians - we have never deceived them and have made it clear from the beginning their country is not worth American treasure, blood and lives.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 7:09:38 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The West has no principles, has no convictions and most importantly has no teeth. This is not the West that stood down the Soviet Union. We know it and more importantly - the Russians know it as well.


11 posted on 04/15/2014 7:12:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
As an institution, the EU always found excuses to deny Ukraine the prospect of membership in the bloc one day. But Bill Clinton and George W. Bush never recognized Russian domination over Ukraine. Billions were spent—Kiev was the third-largest recipient of U.S. aid in the 1990s—and American promises were made to protect Ukraine's sovereignty. In return, Ukraine took active part in NATO discussions and missions, sending thousands of troops to the Balkans and Iraq.

From the WSJ article.

12 posted on 04/15/2014 7:14:24 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: goldstategop; PieterCasparzen; prairiebreeze

Copying Pieter Casparzen’s comment from another thread. I saw another comment about Ukrained earlier today that was very good, wish I could find it. Something about Ukraine being a pit for a long time with lots of mafia/type thugs, sort of famous for that. The US needs to clean its own rot out. Anyone who thinks the foulest administration in the history of this Replublican can or will do any good for any one isn’t thinking straight. It’s like expecting poison that is poisoning us to be good for some other people.

Putin’s KGB past does not make it acceptable for the US and the West to manipulate Ukraine into joining the EU.

Victoria Nuland of the US State Department euphemistically brags that the US has spent $5 billion to help “Ukraine realize its European aspirations”, which obviously means that in truth $5 billion was spent to gin up public support inside Ukraine to join the European Union.

Just like I oppose attempts to manipulate Ukraine into joining the EU, I oppose any and all attempts to merge the US into any international organizations, as they undermine US national sovereignty. I’d oppose attempts like this in any country.

I don’t support ANY supranational union, or one country ruling over another.

I believe in the idea of legitimate national sovereignty, that is, a nation should be allowed to continue being a nation.

In cases where there is some popular movement to change borders or sovereignty, foreign involvement, especially by financial elites who manipulate whole governments, should be eliminated.

I don’t support the idea of Russia reabsorbing Ukraine in total, as just a bit over twenty years ago Ukraine became independent, and unless proven otherwise, one can only assume that this action was the will of most of the Ukrainian people.

I do support existing agreements that are agreed upon without coercion or corruption using normal diplomatic means. So I realize that the US and Russia and other countries have military bases inside other countries, where both countries agree to the arrangement. These form legitiamate national interests if both parties agree, and the parties have a right to protect such legitimate national interests.

I also believe Obama is a corrupt, evil puppet, that US Presidents for over a century have been minions of the financial elites.

But regardless of the corruption of its leaders, I still believe that America - as well as every other nation - has a legitimate right and responsibility to protect its legitimate national interests.

Notice however, that the European Union, has no legitimate national sovereignty, because it is not a nation. The United Nations also has no legitimate national sovereignty, because it is not a nation.

Those organizations, and any like them, are tools of the financial elites, built by and for them alone. They have zero accountability to citizens of nations and they usurp the national sovereignty of nations. Accordingly, they should all be abolished, and their organizers tried and convicted of treason in the various countries where they knowingly and purposely conspired to undermine national governments.


13 posted on 04/15/2014 7:19:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: prairiebreeze

Ukraine is bankrupt - and not a prime candidate for EU membership, which is decades away. It has no real market economy or genuine political pluralism.

NATO? It has an army split right down the middle that will never fight Russia. Its very demographics preclude it from being in the Western alliance.

Can Ukraine be saved? It would be a very expensive welfare project for the West with no real guarantee of success. It needs fundamental political and economic reforms - as it is now the black hole of Europe.

With all of this, its no wonder the West doesn’t want to lift a finger. There is no upside in saving Ukraine and the costs are what no one wants to think about.

That’s the gist of the situation the West is now facing.


15 posted on 04/15/2014 7:21:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mac_truck

Listen, with you . . . ? For all I know that photo was taken at a funeral in 2002 in Krasnoyarsk.


16 posted on 04/15/2014 7:23:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kevao

Springtime for Putin and billionaires,
cronies are raking it in.
Russia has free markets now,
as long as you’re one of Vlad’s pals!

Springtime for Putin and Moscow,
winter for Minsk and Kiev.
Don’t get on Putie’s ass now,
he just might turn off your gas now!


17 posted on 04/15/2014 7:27:34 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin

It’s hard not to envy the Russians. They have a totalitarian president who loves his country; we have a totalitarian president who hates his country.


18 posted on 04/15/2014 7:31:02 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: prairiebreeze

“#RussianSpring” is a twitter hashtag created by some teenage girl a couple of weeks ago, as a sort of mocking at the “ArabSpring” BS. I noted this last week in several posts.

It got picked up by a bunch of other people, and took off from there.

Saying Dugan started it shows the author is just regurgitating, and not actually reporting.


19 posted on 04/15/2014 7:37:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: kevao

Hannity was yammering on his radio show today about a Russian warplane buzzing a US battleship. Saying we shouldn’t have to put up with it. Sean, please don’t beat the drums for the US war party. I don’t want to see us get involved in another Kosovo to support a failed thug state. Besides, if we shoot down a Russian plane, Putin will up the ante, perhaps even bomb and sink one of our ships. Then Hannity will really have something to cry about.


20 posted on 04/15/2014 7:41:14 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: goldstategop

You must really miss those good old days of the “ strong man on horseback” to save us.


21 posted on 04/15/2014 7:45:50 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: 1rudeboy

Weekend at Vasyli’s...:^)


22 posted on 04/15/2014 7:46:29 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: prairiebreeze

The only thing good to come out of Ukraine is that sweet-faced actor Anton Yeltsin who played Chekhov in the new Star Trek films. What is Ukraine to me - I could care less. The US and the EU started this mess - they’ve already lost face so now’s the time to admit it’s a mistake before US lives are lost. If US lives are lost over there, then they died for nothing.


23 posted on 04/15/2014 7:48:52 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: goldstategop
The West has no principles, has no convictions and most importantly has no teeth. This is not the West that stood down the Soviet Union. We know it and more importantly - the Russians know it as well.

This isn't Reagan's America. Hell. This isn't even Bush's America.


24 posted on 04/15/2014 7:54:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: prairiebreeze

Since the US War Party is already calling the Russian speakers in east Ukraine ‘storm troopers’, why don’t you just call them ‘Serbs’ and then you have your excuse to start bombing them and intervening on one side while accusing the other side of atrocities. Putin saw that work before, but he won’t let that happen again. This entire situation is a no-win for US interests. Stay home US, stay out of it.


25 posted on 04/15/2014 7:57:47 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Hugin
Excellent line. I think George Will had a good on when he said that Obama takes his foreign policy from Monty Python.
26 posted on 04/15/2014 8:31:07 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Hugin

Winter for Ukraine and France.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 8:55:16 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks prairiebreeze.
storm troopers operating under Kremlin coordination launched assaults, seizing government buildings in Donetsk, Kharkiv, Lugansk, and several smaller cities in eastern Ukraine; declared themselves to be the assemblies of independent governments; and immediately invited Russian troops to invade and annex their respective fictional statelets... They carried the outward-radiating eight-arrowed flag of Putinist ideologue Aleksandr Dugin’s fascist Eurasianist movement and shouted and displayed its slogan for the operation, “Russian Spring.”

28 posted on 04/15/2014 11:00:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (When will the Putinltards be purged? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: KarlInOhio
Winter for Ukraine and France.

Moldova and Estonia are next.

29 posted on 04/15/2014 11:02:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: prairiebreeze; All

Let’s hope those troops learned something about guerrilla warfare (asymetrical warfare), they’ll need it.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 12:14:13 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: goldstategop

Now try to imagine how the Bundy ranch case would have played out in Russia.


31 posted on 04/16/2014 12:35:10 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

Pretty close to how Waco played out, I would imagine.


32 posted on 04/16/2014 12:31:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Condensed into about 90 minutes.


33 posted on 04/17/2014 1:38:50 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: tcrlaf
I saw that #RussianSpring tag on Twitter and had to chuckle. I think they are mocking Obama’s Arab Spring fiasco.
34 posted on 04/17/2014 2:26:12 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

“I saw that #RussianSpring tag on Twitter and had to chuckle. I think they are mocking Obama’s Arab Spring fiasco.”

Tat is exactly what they are doing.


35 posted on 04/17/2014 10:14:15 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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