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VIDEO: Ukrainian Army Armored Column Defects To Pro-Russians In Kramatorsk
Youtube/Twitter ^ | 4-16-2014 | TCRLAF

Posted on 04/16/2014 12:58:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: The Right wing Infidel

World Nut Daily is a hoax.


61 posted on 04/16/2014 5:47:13 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: annalex
Russians don't. The Soviets are now happy the old USSR is coming back. But Russians they are not; they are the new soviet men, products of century-long artificial selection.

Your definition of "Russian" is of purely politic nature. That's not right, the definition needs to be ethnic.

62 posted on 04/16/2014 5:48:19 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

Russians who support Putin are just lowbrow commie soviets. They’re reinforcing stereotypes about their heritage as being unable to think for themselves and needign a cruel master to lead them.


63 posted on 04/16/2014 5:51:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Were you there?

I think you’ve been reading too much western media.


64 posted on 04/16/2014 5:52:42 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Yes, comrade. Me reads western not soviet media.


65 posted on 04/16/2014 5:54:08 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: mosesdapoet

~There’s no question these are soldiers fully armed and dressed as Russian regulars replete with masks and some with Ukraine insignia. Any insistance they’re grandpas or irregulars is a fool .Particularly tooling around in APCs. I hope your sources are reliable and this is not some wishfull thinking on the part of some commander back in Kiev who hasn’t a clue as to what is going on. The Ukraine command structure is something left to be desired.

Personally I think it’s a Russian specialized unit.~

Their uniforms and rifles aren’t Russian and vehicles are paratroopers’ BMDs which are looking and painted in a Ukrainian manner.


66 posted on 04/16/2014 5:55:29 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: annalex

Whats your point? That Russia is free and democratic country that allows citizens to express their disagreement with government? If so, than OK.


67 posted on 04/16/2014 5:57:26 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: KOZ.
Why do you Russians always support putin’s actions? A country is being taken over by force and you shamelessly support it, why?

Ok, let's look at the situation. The current Kiev authorities revoked a law which gave the Russian language regional status, they announced that the Victory Day wouldn't have been celebrated in Ukraine any more. They are likely to join the NATO, an organisation which goal is to put all the Russians to painful death?

And, after all, why adding a province populated by Russians to Russia may not cause some cheer in Russia?

68 posted on 04/16/2014 5:59:22 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: elhombrelibre

First, don’t call me comrade, I’m a former Canadian soldier.

Second, I don’t think you’re interested in facts.

Have a good day.


69 posted on 04/16/2014 5:59:23 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf
What's next? The Ukrainians starved the Russians in 1933? The Tutsis killed the Hutus and the Jews killed the German in NAZI Germany? Are you a Holocaust denier as well?
70 posted on 04/16/2014 5:59:31 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Bulwyf

Bye, comrade.


71 posted on 04/16/2014 6:00:13 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
What's next? The Ukrainians starved the Russians in 1933?

Well, I think we may find some Ukrainians among the Soviet high ranking officials at the time. Since Russians were starved as well as Ukrainians, Kazakhs and so on, why not blaming Ukrainins for starving Russians?

72 posted on 04/16/2014 6:02:37 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Your evaluation is up to you, but they still remain Russians.


73 posted on 04/16/2014 6:07:31 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior
Read up on it. Russian Soviets did the killing of Ukranians. If the Russians were ever victims, they've given up any reason for sympathy by continuing their pattern of bullying their neighbors.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm

74 posted on 04/16/2014 6:11:37 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

Not quite. Nations change. Americans, for example, were once British. The Soviet man is indeed a new phenomenon that has little to do with Russianness as we know it through the centuries. The present population of the Russian Federation, while retained some ethnic Russian roots has acquired a different, ugly mentality on display today.


75 posted on 04/16/2014 6:14:10 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: kronos77

I don’t know for how long the “expression of disagreements” will remain in RF, but the point is that some Russians have a conscience left.


76 posted on 04/16/2014 6:15:31 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: elhombrelibre

Russians Soviets aren’t Russians. Soviets were of many ethnicities, including Ukrainians. The USSR had no superior or inferior ethnicities. Therefore blaming one for butchering another is a manipulation of history. The broke apart not far ago, a period of border changes is necessary, until the situation finally settles.


77 posted on 04/16/2014 6:20:34 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: annalex

Whay can’t ‘Russianness’ change through centuries also? I think you have never come across the idea of “Russia as the 3rd Rome” or the Byzantine Christian Empire which were in effect in the Tsarist Russia.


78 posted on 04/16/2014 6:26:25 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior

Well, I meant that Russian Soviets are not all the Russians


79 posted on 04/16/2014 6:27:25 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Freelance Warrior
I would have agreed with you up until the Russians rallied around the tyrant Putin. Apparently, they're incapable of leaving their neighbors, especially the Ukrainians in peace.
80 posted on 04/16/2014 6:34:52 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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