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Did Feds Kill Cows, Dig Mass Grave? Fox Video Exclusive
Fox News ^ | April 15, 2014 | Greta Van Sustern

Posted on 04/16/2014 3:51:27 AM PDT by blueplum

Griff Jenkins investigates. Video only.

(Excerpt) Read more at video.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; reid; sandoval

1 posted on 04/16/2014 3:51:27 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Greta now has a write up on her blog at this link, slightly different title than the video only link:

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/15/exclusive-did-feds-kill-ranchers-cows-dig-mass-grave
“Cliven’s son Ryan Bundy shared video of what he believed to be a mass grave dug by the government.

He noted that at least one dead cow could be seen in the 18-by-45 foot area.

Cliven Bundy told FOX News that a single cow could fetch as much as $2200 at market, meaning that the numerous missing cattle could have a damaging effect on the family’s business going forward.

Officials have yet to comment on Ryan Bundy’s video.”


2 posted on 04/16/2014 4:07:12 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

That was probably intended for the protesters.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 4:15:53 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: blueplum

I wasn’t aware that any of the cattle died, but did see an article that some of the calfs are very sick and might not make it.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 4:19:14 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: blueplum

This would require a backhoe. So, you go over to the nearest BLM center and ask them about their backhoe being out (they typically one and only one). I would imagine they don’t want to provide any comments. If the cows are found with gunshot wounds....it opens up a pretty big mess. Someone will ask about BLM folks with expenditures of ammo, and you’d need a court situation to dig further into this.


5 posted on 04/16/2014 4:21:08 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

In the video where the spetnaz Taz him they are blocking a dump truck and backhoe. Go back and look.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 4:26:30 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: blueplum
Oh no! That's not for COWS. The gubmint was building a “lap pool” for them Desert Tortoises out there.”
7 posted on 04/16/2014 4:32:14 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: pepsionice

There was mention of a backhoe on a trailer by a protester who was interviewed there. The BLM uses large holes in the ground like this to close a road to all traffic, jeeps etc.


8 posted on 04/16/2014 4:39:34 AM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: blueplum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4weoG__0fE


9 posted on 04/16/2014 4:44:04 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: KEVLAR
The BLM were apparently tearing up the watering systems that had been developed over the decades on Public Land.

Photos of those destructive actions should be made.

10 posted on 04/16/2014 4:44:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: pepsionice

In the first video posted, the taser one, the Bundy supporters can be clearly heard repeatedly asking, “What are the backhoes for?, What are the backhoes for??” The cattle weren’t meant to survive and by extension neither were the Bundy’s.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 4:46:11 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Paladin2

I do believe it was Bundy who put in those watering systems.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 4:48:29 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: blueplum

That is absolutely disgusting


13 posted on 04/16/2014 4:49:42 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: KEVLAR

I think an examination of the cows in the grave will reveal that they didn’t die a normal death....and thus a report to the county sheriff will open up a grand jury episode. Some guy....really opened up a can of worms here. No fed protection for shooting cows....you get taken to the grand jury and have to explain your episode. Even if you were just the back hoe operator....you basically were part of some conspiracy. All of this leads back to paying the rancher for his cows....if there are ten....figure $20,000, and probably another $5k to $10k for damages. The BLM won’t pay for that stuff....it’ll come out of your own pocket. So I think I’d start pointing fingers quickly and note which BLM guy did the killing. If I were the guy....I’d pack up and leave the state.


14 posted on 04/16/2014 4:51:36 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: yldstrk

What is disgusting is the “Bundy is a sob , Bundy is a crook, Bundy is a ______” posse that stalks these threads.


15 posted on 04/16/2014 4:56:46 AM PDT by sport
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To: Covenantor

This backhoe positioning brings up the topic of a conspiracy. They had to have some plan like this already in their mind...thus requesting the backhoes to be brought out and put in position to bury them.

Frankly, this opens up a big can of worms. Who in BLM knew of the backhoe request? Who authorized the backhoes to be brought out? Who operated the backhoes? Who shot or killed the cows?

Once you establish this was planned ahead of time (not afterwards)....this gets into jailtime (not just a fine or paying for the cows). If you were for BLM...there’s no legal protection for you, and whoever dreamed up this episode....is kinda finished for a government job. A felony gets you jailtime, and your gov’t job is wrapped up....secret clearance gone, and you can expect at least six months in some state jail. Pretty stupid....over cows and BLM. I wouldn’t want to do time for some petty reason like this.


16 posted on 04/16/2014 4:59:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: blueplum

Another reason the JBT declared a “no fly zone”, over the area....


17 posted on 04/16/2014 5:04:17 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: blueplum

“Did Feds Kill Cows, Dig Mass Grave?”

Only the straight, male, white, Christian ones were killed — The gay cows were released.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 5:28:37 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: MarMema
Yes, according to his daughter, the Bundy family has done improvements to the land - including water, roads (probably the ones Fedzilla used to access the cattle) and fencing.
19 posted on 04/16/2014 5:35:21 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: pepsionice
No fed protection for shooting cows
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Ignorant, arrogant little Hitlers thrashing around in an environment they know nothing about. Tearing up the terrain, terrorizing and killing cattle, burying the killed cattle which is now against the law in some states, terrorizing and assaulting citizens. And now I hear they are obtaining arrest warrants against all the protesters for obstructing their crazed, ideologically driven tyrannical “justice.” It is looking more and more like this is where the reformation will begin.

20 posted on 04/16/2014 5:42:38 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: sport

From what I have been able to determine, the Fedgov tried to buy him out, he refused, and now the Fedgov is trying to make like he didn’t pay grazing fees. If he had paid grazing fees, it would have been an admission that he doesn’t won his land. The Fedgov is evil and wrong and a bully. Whenever the people and the gov have a contest, people are superior to gov. It is in the Constitution.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 6:05:38 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: G Larry

No Fly Zone - you are so right about that - the FERALs were totally willing to take down the Patriots to throw in the pit with the cows, I am sure. I wonder it is still a No Fly Zone.


22 posted on 04/16/2014 6:38:42 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: blueplum

Anyone have any knowledge or witness accounts of the government snipers being removed from the hillsides by the Americans?


23 posted on 04/16/2014 6:40:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sport
Bovicidegate.

Even Fox News is infested with anti-Bundy legal experts who assert he's in the wrong. I don't know if the mainstream media is even covering the story.

24 posted on 04/16/2014 6:44:26 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus (ADES)
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To: yldstrk
From what I have read and by what I know how the Government Agents operate you are correct. We see the situation in the same light. The Government wanted his land. They set out to run him out. He tried to cooperate with them, but each time they would move the goal posts. He saw what their game was and refused to play it,

Their Game? The Jews in Germany in the 1930s tried to play it with the German Government. They lost. The legitimate gun owners are now playing it with the United States Government. They will lose. Why did the Jews lose and the legitimate gun owners in the United States going to lose? Because the way the Government[s] play is that when one attains the goal they set, they set another goal that is more difficult to meet. and this continues until whomever that are after is no longer to meet the goal they set. Then they become criminals and the Government is able to use their enforcement might on them.

And yes, the Constitution was intended to limit the power of the Government, but the Government is ignoring it.

25 posted on 04/16/2014 6:46:41 AM PDT by sport
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To: uncitizen
"...some of the calfs are very sick…."

As long as "sick" means starved to near death by BLM goons. Then yes, they are sick.

26 posted on 04/16/2014 7:00:46 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: blueplum

BLM spokesperson Kirsten Cannon..., indicating that the agency awarded a $966,000 contract to pay for the removal of the cattle, but additional costs for security and other elements of the removal could amount to much more by the time the confiscation is finished.”
They had to release the cattle when the company from Utah declined to accept the livestock.


27 posted on 04/16/2014 7:06:58 AM PDT by griswold3 ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".)
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To: sport

You got that right. The people who pop up on these threads to slander Bundy are the scum of the earth.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 7:35:19 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: blueplum

Well you know they did. At least 27 calves are without mothers.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 7:56:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: moehoward

Yes, starved was the report. Because they were separated from their mothers.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 9:05:46 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: MrB

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3143703/posts

post #20 makes mention


31 posted on 04/16/2014 2:36:21 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: griswold3

There were rumors that the cattle were being shipped to Ontario, CA (suburb of LA). Now that wouldn’t have been a good idea at all, because some of the good ranchers in Kern County and Riverside and San Bernadino Counties might have had a teensy tiny little problem with that. ;)


32 posted on 04/16/2014 3:18:11 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: pepsionice

$2200 per head, plus the price for two prize bulls. Plus the price for the calves.

And the price for the water.

The feds decided to cripple the man and force him out.

Appsame offered to pay the fines. Who’ll pay Bundy?

Someone wants this land. It’s not about fees/fines, when you are willing to destroy improvements and Bundy’s property.


33 posted on 04/16/2014 3:32:31 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: sport
And yes, the Constitution was intended to limit the power of the Government, but the Government is ignoring it.

And if a new Constitution is created by an Article V convention, they'll ignore that, too. Here come the flames and brickbats....

34 posted on 04/16/2014 3:40:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: MarMema

excellent video. thanks! God Bless our Cowboys and Gals. Amen.


35 posted on 04/16/2014 4:06:28 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: liberalh8ter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhU44IxTmhk


36 posted on 04/16/2014 4:17:29 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: pepsionice

I heard earlier today that there were 5 bullets in one bull. So it wasn’t even a humane slaughter. No signs of damage to the pen, panels not bent, posts hadn’t been moved by some raging crazy bull. Scuttlebutt is the rustlers were afraid the bull would ‘gore their horses’ (then they darn sure weren’t riding horses raised around cows is all I gotta say about that).


37 posted on 04/16/2014 5:04:19 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: MarMema

That was great! Thanks for the link.


38 posted on 04/16/2014 5:24:25 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I would say, leave the Constitution alone. If you value the 2nd Amendment.

On the other hand, if you believe that every woman is entitled to a Federally funded abortion upon demand, well that is a horse of a different color.

39 posted on 04/16/2014 5:26:15 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
I would say, leave the Constitution alone. If you value the 2nd Amendment.

'Zackly. Open up the "constitution" for rewrite, the second is the first...to go.

40 posted on 04/16/2014 5:31:49 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: blueplum

No respect at all for others. Just sickening.


41 posted on 04/16/2014 7:15:55 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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