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1 posted on 04/16/2014 6:49:32 AM PDT by jimbo123
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Okay, now we have three versions of this event:

from the WSJ it was Russians or pro-Russian militants who got hold of APCs somewhere

from The Times (London) it was defecting Ukrainian troops joining the pro-Russian side

from a pro-Ukrainian-interim-government source it was Ukrainian troops using Russian flags as cover to infiltrate areas held by pro-Russian militants.

I think we can conclude we haven't a clue what was going on, who the folks in and on the Russian-flag-flying APCs were, or what they were doing beyond riding around in and on APCs flying Russian flags.

2 posted on 04/16/2014 6:57:45 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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5 posted on 04/16/2014 7:07:41 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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Can we honor requests of the Ukraine government to put Air Launched Cruise Missiles into each government building held by the Russian-speaking Pirates?

10 posted on 04/16/2014 8:11:30 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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A few hours ago it was a brilliant move by the Ukrainian military to sneak into the rebel cities?

12 posted on 04/16/2014 8:18:18 AM PDT by McGruff
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"In a sign of apparent desperation in Kiev before the defense ministry released its statement, Serhiy Sobolev, the head of a parliamentary faction, claimed the men riding the vehicles into Slovyansk were actually double-agents trying to trick pro-Russian forces into letting them into the heart of the seized territory."


Those were double agents who weren't double agents. But the weren't really double agents because they're now Russians operatives. Which pretty much means that any Ukrainian who doesn't agree with the government is labeled a Russian operative by the government.

I don't think the people "in charge" in the Ukraine have any idea what's going on and are just spouting what they think will get them outside sympathy and aide so they can stay in power. Next they'll be blaming the failure of their "anti-terrorist" fiasco on turncoat officers who swayed their poor, feeble minded, troops.

They sound like they're using the exact same script the MB used in Egypt when the people finally turned against them. Just substitute "Russia" for "Israel" and "Communist" for "Zionist" and the MB news releases are almost exactly like what the EU/US backed MB were spewing when Egyptians wouldn't put up with them any more.

There was no leader with enough support to keep mobs from throwing out the government rather than waiting a few months for elections but now we're supposed to believe that the real problem is that the opponents of the current "leadership" won't wait on elections?

The people who the mob threw out were imposing their will by force and now the real problem is that the new guys can't impose their will by force because the troops desert?

They changed the rules of the game, overthrew the government rather than waiting on the elections, and now they want everyone who disagrees with them to play by the old rules as if there were no overthrow of the government?

Please, in for a penny, in for a pound, they made their own bed now let them lie in it.

27 posted on 04/16/2014 10:00:03 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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Defense Ministry confirms pro-Russian separatists have captured Ukrainian armored vehicles

4:28 p.m. -- The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has confirmed that "Russian saboteurs" have captured six Ukrainian armed vehicles in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk.

The ministry says that local residents of Kramatorsk blocked the armored vehicles on the morning of April 16. "As a result of the blocking, extremists seized the vehicles and the column [of armored vehicles] headed towards Sloviansk," said the Defense Ministry's statement.

The vehicles are currently in Sloviansk. The ministry says that the men controlling them are "not related to the Armed Forces of Ukraine."

Whether Ukrainian troops initially driving the armored vehicles switched sides and joined the pro-Russian separatists remains unclear. -- Isaac Webb

29 posted on 04/16/2014 11:57:20 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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36 posted on 04/16/2014 6:59:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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